What does affect the scorecard?

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What does affect the scorecard?

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I don´t know if you already noticed. Since one of the latest updates there is a scorecard at the end of the game (at least when you play against the AI).
What does affect that score? What are "breakpoints" for higher scores? I played 4 times against the AI and always have the exact same score.
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Re: What does affect the scorecard?

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Soulcollector wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:36 am I don´t know if you already noticed. Since one of the latest updates there is a scorecard at the end of the game (at least when you play against the AI).
What does affect that score? What are "breakpoints" for higher scores? I played 4 times against the AI and always have the exact same score.
Actually, you can check the scorecard anytime during the course of a game (after the first turn) simply by hitting the "L" key and then the scorecard button. I think it's just meant to gauge how your side is doing during the course of a game more than anything else.

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I noticed that it is a little wonky.

Okaying vs Axis AI, the Axis scire went up significantly after Italy collapsed. Presumably due to higher 'average' Axis Morale.
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Thanks Taxman, and I don't really know if there is am easy way around that.

Right now the formula only looks at active and non surrendered Majors for either the Axis or Allied side. So yes, the Axis NM on the scorecard does seemingly go up, but this is now because instead of the average between Italy and Germany, after Italy surrenders (and takes its lower NM value with it) the Scorecard only looks at Germany and then the Scorecard NM value for the Axis will be higher, e.g. the average of one nation as opposed to two nations.

If we were to change this, then we'd have to consider that the Allies also have Majors that surrender, such as Poland and France and they would be included in the NM average on the scorecard, and would weigh it down considerably.

Even more so when it is just the UK standing alone after France falls and before the US and USSR enter the war. So even here you'd see fluctuations of up and down as well.
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1.Deemphasize national morale's impact to the scorecard.
2. Instead of calculating based on average of all active nations on a side, just add a sum for each active nation based on that nation's total morale (so nations like France & Italy count for less). If the game 'ends' before before all powers are active, it's likely a blow out anyway. Use either plateaus or a divisor.
3. Emphasize holding NM hexes, and especially victory hexes. In the future have a running cumulation so that holding said hexes for as long as possible is encouraged. This will provide the cool effect of encouraging more risky play.
4. Eventually shift victory conditions to be based on the scorecard when satisfied with how it works. Thus will no longer make Axis victory all dependent upon axis winning the war and encourage more games to go deeper/full length and reduce resignations.
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So it looks like I misspoke as I based my initial reply on what you were finding in game.

But after checking more closely, Axis National Morale on the scorecard should actually go down once Italy surrenders as it is still an average of all Axis NM, divided by the number of Axis countries that were fully mobilized, but once Italy surrenders, its NM is zero.

I just tested it quickly in a test campaign to confirm, and if you are seeing otherwise, a before Italy surrenders turn, followed by a right after Italy surrenders turn sent my way would be helpful in tracking down what you are seeing.

Essentially NM hexes is all taken into account with an individuals NM, and the general formula works like this:

(German NM + Italian NM) / 2

But once Italy surrenders, it would be as Italy is still counted in the divisor:

German NM / 2
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Not what I recall, did you check a turn or 3 later?

I will recheck when I get their in a game (solo or mp)
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Re: What does affect the scorecard?

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I did not, and that's the general formula so it should not really make much of a difference relative to the number of turns after surrender.

However if there are other NM events that take place, e.g. after Italy surrenders, those could have an effect and be possibly something to consider... but relative to the surrender of a nation, alone, it appears to be working as intended.
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