New TOAW IV database

[macgregor]

I'd love to find a way to mod Europe Aflame to include these ship classes and values.

[larryfulkerson]

What's the holdup? Different equipment slots?

[rhinobones]

I tried to download the database. Norton blocked the site and warned that it is a known dangerous webpage. Proceed at your own risk. I'm sending a copy of the warning to josant.

[larryfulkerson]

I just now downloaded the ver.6.0 database and then scanned it for virus's and didn't find any. It's just a zip file at any rate so it should be safe to download without risk. IMHO.

[josant]

I think it's an antivirus problem.

Some antivirus, for piracy issues, block certain pages not because they are dangerous sites, but because files are shared on these sites

mediafire (or 4shared, dropbox, etc...) is one of these file sharing sites

I have checked this with my antivirus (eset smart security premium) and it lets me access the mediafire page to download the file, without any dangerous warning.

[sPzAbt653]

Do you have an entry for the T-64BM Bulat ? I am using your DB for a Ukraine 2022 scenario. I looked but don't see this particular tank, but maybe I am missing it.

[josant]

Yes, there is a entry for T-64BM, but due toaw engine limitations, in the database basically is a T-64BV with the agile flag enabled (it seems that its engine gives 1000 hp )

[sPzAbt653]

Is it one of these two? Or do you think I have the wrong database?

EDIT: Forget this, and see the next post, thanks!

[sPzAbt653]

Yup, I had something wrong. Darned EQP files *grrr*

Looks like this is the proper one:

[josant]

No, it's in the Ukrainian tank section.

[sPzAbt653]

Holy detailed equipment file Jos-man! Thank you so much

[sPzAbt653]

How about this one:

T-80BVM Russian MBT (2017): Features "Relikt" ERA, a PNM Sosna-U gunner sight (as in the T-90, T-72B3), an improved 125mm gun 2A46M-5, and an upgraded gas turbine engine and upgrades of various other systems.The tank also has a new autoloader capable of firing the depleted uranium 3BM59 APFSDS shell and the tungsten 3BM60.

I just read a report that the Ru 200th Motor Bde deployed to attack Kharkiv with this T-80 BVM version.

[josant]

With the game's rating system (that it's not bad, but some times is too poor), there's no much to do.
Perhaps it would be nice to change the composite armor to laminated armor, to reflect the ERA armor upgrades.

[sPzAbt653]

there's no much to do.

Yes, but in the realm of Equipment I am the dunce, so an Expert as yourself is necessary!

I read this in the Manual:

Exotic Armor
These types of armor provide improved resistance to HEAT anti-armor weapons:
Composite Armor
Laminate Armor
Reactive Armor

So I guessed that ERA = #48 Reactive Armor ? But sight, engine, munitions and gun upgrades I am a monkey with squares and circles scratching my head. Therefore, thank you so much for providing the screen shots which make the entry easy enough for me to handle.

[cathar1244]

Gun and munition upgrades have to be depicted by new antipersonnel (if needed) and antitank ratings.

Bits with motor and ground pressure ratings could be depicted by marking the equipment as "agile".

Sights / fire control (found this somewhere, but can't find the source ATM):

Optics 1 -- equipment has a stereoscopic rangefinder.

Optics 2 -- equipment has a coincidence or stadiametric rangefinder, or an ATGM with MCLOS (manual command to line of sight) guidance.

Optics 3 -- equipment has passive night vision sights or is a wire guided ATGM.

Optics 4 -- equipment has a laser range finder, or homes on a target that is "painted" by a laser.

I assume an optics rating of 3 also requires the flag for the equipment to be able to fight at night. (But may give enhanced targeting anyway if the night-capable flag is not set. Would have to test to be sure.) ETA-- In the standard equipment DB, so far as I can see, all equipment with optics rating of 3 is -not- flagged to be night or all weather capable. Note that night vision ("thermal") sights are also useful in dust, smoke, etc.

ETA: Optics 3 represents thermal sights, such as on the M60A3 TTS variant of the Patton tank series. But the stock equipment database correctly depicts the M60A3 as having a laser rangefinder, thus "Optics 4" for that equipment.

Cheers

[sPzAbt653]

Sights / fire control (found this somewhere, but can't find the source ATM):

Thanks, I hadn't seen these before. I added it to the Equipment List document found in the Manuals Folder, in the Definition of Equipment Notes section.

[cathar1244]

One way of 'sourcing' what the optics ratings mean is to examine the equipment that have them in the equipment database file. For example:

M60A3 has optics-4 ... equipped with laser rangefinder in real life (RL)

M47 has optics 1 ... equipped with a stereoscopic rangefinder in RL

Initial M48 has optics 1 ... equipped with a stereoscopic rangefinder in RL
Later M48 has optics 2 ... equipped with a coincidence rangefinder in RL

Vast majority of optics-3 is used for ATGMs, but it also shown for the T-55A's with the TPN-1-22-11 night sight.

There is no separate rating for fire control systems, so when one rates a new piece of equipment, things like horizontal and vertical gun stabilization, wind sensors, droop sensors etc. should be given some consideration when assigning an optics rating.

Some bits could be added. The spotting rifle used with the M40 106-mm recoilless rifle was very effective for ranging purposes and probably could be an optics-2 without exaggeration in TOAW. Late versions of T-55 had laser rangefinders etc.

One interesting wrinkle is that some of the very late WW2 German AFVs have optics-1 rating.

I've never tested the optics ratings to see what difference they make in hits on enemy armor. It would be interesting to do so.

Cheers

[josant]

I've never tested the optics ratings to see what difference they make in hits on enemy armor. It would be interesting to do so.

Cheers

In pages 159 and 160 of the manual you can see how the anti armor fires work (according with their targeting rating).

[cathar1244]

Thanks Josant!

Cheers

I've never tested the optics ratings to see what difference they make in hits on enemy armor. It would be interesting to do so.

Cheers

In pages 159 and 160 of the manual you can see how the anti armor fires work (according with their targeting rating).

[FellingerXZ]

could someone post the eqp file?, im interested in the naval stuff

(The Old links do not work)

Edit:

NVM false alarm, my VPN was responsible for not being able to view the link