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There is a map as well:

Italy is about 2.2 times smaller than Texas.
Texas is approximately 678,052 sq km, while Italy is approximately 301,340 sq km, making Italy 44.44% the size of Texas. Meanwhile, the population of Texas is ~25.1 million people (37.0 million more people live in Italy). We have positioned the outline of Texas near the middle of Italy.

https://www.mylifeelsewhere.com/country ... /texas-usa

Italy is between the size of Arizona and new Mexico.
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Not sure what you are showing here. The biggest outbreak in Texas is in Harris county. How far is it from there to another large Texan city that has not been as badly affected or another state where the medical services are under less pressure?

If you are saying distance is the reason patients can't be transferred then fine. I personally don't believe that, but then I don't know. My guess, is that, as with Italy and Spain, there might be other reasons and while there is capacity to move some, if hospitals get swamped (as happened in Lombardy) then it becomes a whole lot more difficult.
If distance is great, then you can use ambulance flights. Or helocopeters. Or so I have been informed. Rumour has it that such transports have been made in Sweden. And if it can be made in Sweden, then I am sure that it can made with greater effect in Texas.


And it costs ...

The median charge of an air ambulance trip was $39,000 in 2016, about 60% more than the $24,000 charged just four years earlier, researchers found.

That amount is "more than half of the household income for the average American family in 2016," said lead researcher Ge Bai. She is an associate professor of health policy and management at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore.

It's also much more than the median $10,000 it typically costs the company to conduct a helicopter air ambulance flight, said the Association of Air Medical Services (AAMS).


These are of course normal costs within a city. Not to another state. I of course think profit (up to nearly 4x operating costs) should be suspended during these circumstances to save more lives, but I'd doubt that is happening. If it is that company should be rewarded.

https://www.webmd.com/health-insurance/ ... st-40000#1

Again, the federal government could probably intervene with appropriate equipment, ideally military medical units with large carrying capacity in choppers or planes.
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The comment was made about transferring people to other states and the distance involved. Some states are right next to Texass so only a step or less would be needed.

But Harris county, if I remember correctly, is the southern tip of Texass where Brownsville is. That is a little distance away. Those Christmas taxis are not very comfortable to ride even if you are on a bed. Then the whole thing needs to be decontaminated.
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Harris county Texas is Houston Texas.
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Okay, my mistake. But I also heard that it is also bad at the southern tip of Texass as well.
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IMHO, some people are trying to take advantage of Covid-19 to score political points, and to create Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt in the minds of the American public. It can also be interpreted as an attempt to smear Dr. Fauci.
In my opinion, that is. [:(]
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Meet the Gleaners, Combing Farm Fields to Feed the Newly Hungry
An age-old tradition suddenly has fresh urgency in the pandemic, delivering surplus produce to Americans who can’t feed their families.

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IMHO, some people are trying to take advantage of Covid-19 to score political points, and to create Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt in the minds of the American public. It can also be interpreted as an attempt to smear Dr. Fauci.
In my opinion, that is. [:(]
Today on CNN, Fareed Zacharia (SP?) interviewed an internet researcher who had been studying what the Russians have been doing with misinformation. Turns out they are not limiting their mischief to elections, but are using all manner of internet media to stoke emotions on both sides of every issue they can think of (Brexit, EU COVID response financing, etc.).

The aim is to divide the populace into warring camps so that Western countries have little chance of keeping their eyes on what Russia is doing domestically and in nearby states like Ukraine, Iran and Syria. Keep that in mind when you see all the ridiculous claims and hot-button buzzwords (dog-whistles) on the Internet.
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Sinclair has bought up many local affiliate stations that run local news and reruns of syndicated content. They are an extremely conservative propaganda outfit and part of their ownership agreement requires the local newscast to produce "must run" segments where the script is typically written by Boris Epshteyn or someone on his staff. Who is Boris Epshteyn? Why he is a senior advisor for the Trump campaign! So the local news is actually carrying barely hidden Trump campaign messages. This is not the first such segment Sinclair has required it's local stations to carry. This stuff is hardly news but political infomercials disguised as news. As always check your sources. This is not a political statement but a simple statement of fact. The "must run" segment clause on the local news was part of the purchase agreement. The stations are contractually required to insert these things, read by their own on-air staff, as part of their contract. They are infomercials. If you want infomercials inserted into you news Sinclair is for you. This particular segment, Plandemic,was from a discredited "pseudo-science" source and was so full of falsehoods and downright dangerous advice Facebook and Youtube banned it. Considering all the crackpot "science" that is allowed on those platforms that is quite an achievement. Here is a great clip of the Sinclair Cyborgs all spouting from the same script that was produced by an official in the Trump Campaign. This is a textbook example of how Sinclair distributes is propaganda disguised as "local news": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF0VGnmLExc
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'COVID-19 false negative test results if used too early' https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 094112.htm

'Researchers found that testing people for SARS-CoV-2 -- the virus that causes COVID-19 -- too early in the course of infection is likely to result in a false negative test, even though they may eventually test positive for the virus.'

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In a all too predicable sports headline the Miami Marlins will not have their home opener tonight. They had 4 positive Covid tests on Saturday followed by 8 more today for a total of 12. Their flight from Philadelphia has been cancelled, the team is quarantining in Philadelphia for now while Major League Baseball figures this out. NO Phillies have tested positive yet, but I'm sure they are testing today. The Yankees are scheduled to play the Phillies tonight. In related new a couple of Cincinnati players called in sick yesterday. This is all new this morning but MLB needs to figure this out.......or not. https://www.tampabay.com/sports/rays/20 ... ith-virus/
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Just think when so many women wished that there were no sports on television. Now so many women wish that there were sports on television.
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Just think when so many women wished that there were no sports on television. Now so many women wish that there were sports on television.


Depends on which sport you're talking about. My wife and I enjoyed cycling through the Premier League games yesterday. Sadly, their season is now over. Interesting comparing Project Restart with the MLB dumpster fire.
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Just think when so many women wished that there were no sports on television. Now so many women wish that there were sports on television.

Depends on which sport you're talking about. My wife and I enjoyed cycling through the Premier League games yesterday. Sadly, their season is now over. Interesting comparing Project Restart with the MLB dumpster fire.

I prefer women's soccer. Brandi Chastain really got me interested when she scored the winning goal. [:D]

You should ask her if she wants to see topless dancers. If she says "No!" or words to that effect, you reply "So you don't want to see the Chippendales?"
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Just think when so many women wished that there were no sports on television. Now so many women wish that there were sports on television.

Depends on which sport you're talking about. My wife and I enjoyed cycling through the Premier League games yesterday. Sadly, their season is now over. Interesting comparing Project Restart with the MLB dumpster fire.

I prefer women's soccer. Brandi Chastain really got me interested when she scored the winning goal. [:D]

You should ask her if she wants to see topless dancers. If she says "No!" or words to that effect, you reply "So you don't want to see the Chippendales?"


Haha, more likely it would turn into an amateur MMA competition :)

For the Americans in the room, women's soccer is subjectively better. At least, until Pulisic gets some help out there.
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(Really?)

Covid-19 response is a matter of politics.

Remember that whatever the government does is political, at least to some people. But it is unfair to compare England (Great Britain) with New Zealand and is laughable to a certain extent. The geographical differences, the population differences, and the number of Coronavirus-Sars-2 cases are quite different. I don't know the ideology of this person, but he seems to have a problem.
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(Really?)

Covid-19 response is a matter of politics.
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WTH?

So this is the "No Politics Version" and you post an article in The Guardian that, here's a shocker than no one could have possibly foreseen, blames a Tory Government for thousands of deaths. The left wing Grauniad taking a pop at a right of centre Government - Well as my old mate Iago would say:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaIFT6iILaY
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What makes an RBMK reactor core explode?

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What makes an RBMK reactor core explode?

https://youtu.be/5aNxqbZDNBM
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Nothing. Everyone knows an RBMK reactor can't explode. And by the way, there is no graphite on the ground, got it?

By the way, it said the video was unavailable.
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