ChatGPT makes these forums obsolete!

[pbiggar]

No more waiting for a response from humans, get your answers now!

To be honest, I have seen worse advice posted on these forums.
I tried a fairly detailed question and the response was not bad.
Chat GPT seems to like Frank's, George, Jack, Tony. Not sure about Tony's - maybe Chat GPT had better luck with them me?

My Query
Which fighter planes should the Japanese player focus on to ensure air superiority in 1943/1944 in the game War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition with PDU On?

Chat GPT response
In the game War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition with PDU (Production, Development and Upgrade) On, the Japanese player should focus on upgrading and producing the following fighter planes to ensure air superiority in 1943/1944:

A6M5 Zero: The A6M5 Zero was an upgraded version of the earlier A6M Zero and had several improvements, including a more powerful engine and increased fuel capacity, which improved its range and combat performance.

Ki-84 Hayate: The Ki-84 Hayate was a high-performance fighter plane that entered service in 1944. It had a top speed of 624 km/h and was armed with two 20mm cannon and two 12.7mm machine guns. The Hayate was a formidable opponent to the Allied fighters of the time and was highly regarded by Japanese pilots.

J2M Raiden: The J2M Raiden was a late-war interceptor designed to take on heavily armed Allied bombers. It had a top speed of 596 km/h and was armed with four 20mm cannon. The Raiden was highly maneuverable and could climb quickly to high altitudes, making it an effective weapon against Allied bombers.

Ki-61 Hien: The Ki-61 Hien was a mid-range fighter plane that entered service in 1943. It was highly maneuverable and could reach speeds of up to 580 km/h. The Hien was armed with two 20mm cannon and two 12.7mm machine guns, making it a potent weapon against Allied fighters.

N1K2-J Shiden-Kai: The N1K2-J Shiden-Kai was a late-war fighter plane that entered service in 1944. It had a top speed of 608 km/h and was armed with four 20mm cannon. The Shiden-Kai was highly maneuverable and had excellent high-altitude performance, making it an effective weapon against Allied fighters and bombers.

Overall, by upgrading and producing these fighter planes, the Japanese player can have a formidable air force capable of achieving air superiority in 1943/1944. However, it is important to note that air superiority is not solely dependent on fighter planes and requires effective use of other elements such as reconnaissance, ground control, and logistics to achieve success.



Regenerate response

[Nomad]

And do not leave out pilot training. It does not matter much what air frames you have if you have not trained your pilots as well as possible.

[Platoonist]

When playing a game that simulates historical reality, getting simulated advice only makes sense.

[RangerJoe]

Since you believe that "ChatGPT makes these forums obsolete!" I will now block you since you do not want any advice from these forums. I suggest that you block me at the very least.

[Chris21wen]

Since you believe that "ChatGPT makes these forums obsolete!" I will now block you since you do not want any advice from these forums. I suggest that you block me at the very least.

Not entirely sure he meant it in the way its come across, more tongue in check I think.

[pbiggar]

The little winky guy at the end of the first line is winking at you Ranger Joe!

Just having some fun blending new tech with old tech. No offense intended.

[Uncivil Engineer]

Now ask if the Japanese should attack Pearl Harbor, and if not where.

[pbiggar]

The response is not very useful, but still interesting. At least Russia or invading North America were not on the list.
I would love to see the response from an AI trained on these forums.

Uncivil Engineer's query:
In the game War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition by Matrix Games, where should the Japanese attack on Dec 7th, 1941 if playing a non-historical start?

ChatGPT response
If playing a non-historical start in War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition and beginning on December 7th, 1941, the Japanese player has several options for their initial attack. Here are a few possibilities:

Pearl Harbor: Historically, the Japanese launched a surprise attack on the US naval base at Pearl Harbor in Hawaii on December 7th, 1941. In the game, attacking Pearl Harbor can damage the US fleet and prevent them from launching an offensive in the Pacific for several months. However, it is also a risky move, as it can lead to a declaration of war by the United States and the entry of additional Allied forces into the war.

Philippines: The Japanese could launch an attack on the US-controlled Philippines, which were defended by a relatively weak force at the time. Capturing the Philippines would deny the US a base close to Japan and could also secure resources such as rubber and oil.

Malaya/Singapore: Another option for the Japanese is to invade British-controlled Malaya and Singapore, which were major sources of rubber and tin for the Allied war effort. Capturing these territories would also deny the Allies a base of operations and potentially allow the Japanese to push further into Southeast Asia.

Dutch East Indies: The Dutch East Indies were also rich in resources such as oil, rubber, and tin, and were defended by a relatively weak force. Capturing the Dutch East Indies would provide the Japanese with critical resources for their war effort, but would also require a significant investment of naval and ground forces.

Ultimately, the Japanese player's initial attack should be based on their overall strategy for the game, taking into account factors such as resource acquisition, military objectives, and the opponent's likely response.

[BBfanboy]

ChatGPT gets a B from me for that response. It cites the historical strategic options without reference to WITP-AE game players' opinions. For example, lots of players that chose to attack the Philippines instead of PH cited the desire to destroy the subs there as their main aim. The invasion of the Philippines can be accomplished just fine with a little support from mini-KB (CVLs and CVEs). It also does not mention hunting Force Z with KB which some players have done.

[Yaab]

JFB: "ChatGPT, how is our Midway battle going?
ChatGPT: "... numerous cruisers and destroyers..."

[BBfanboy]

[Cheesesteak]

Excellent morning laugh. well played.

[Olorin]

ChatGPT does not think. It's a text generator that searches the internet for relevant words that the user provides and puts the answers it finds in order.

It's very likely that it accessed these forums to create its "answer".

[Uncivil Engineer]

ChatGPT gets a B from me for that response. It cites the historical strategic options without reference to WITP-AE game players' opinions. For example, lots of players that chose to attack the Philippines instead of PH cited the desire to destroy the subs there as their main aim. The invasion of the Philippines can be accomplished just fine with a little support from mini-KB (CVLs and CVEs). It also does not mention hunting Force Z with KB which some players have done.

I think a B is very generous - it didn't say anything significant, just regurgitated what everyone knows. I would give it no higher than D.

[BBfanboy]

ChatGPT gets a B from me for that response. It cites the historical strategic options without reference to WITP-AE game players' opinions. For example, lots of players that chose to attack the Philippines instead of PH cited the desire to destroy the subs there as their main aim. The invasion of the Philippines can be accomplished just fine with a little support from mini-KB (CVLs and CVEs). It also does not mention hunting Force Z with KB which some players have done.

I think a B is very generous - it didn't say anything significant, just regurgitated what everyone knows. I would give it no higher than D.

Well, if 'everyone' means all the people on this board, I agree that they know this stuff. But for the average wargame non-player they have little idea of history and geography so they would have had to search the web to assemble that strategic info on Japanese choices to start the War in the Pacific (they were already at war in China). ChatGPT assembled that info - presumably very quickly- so I was grading it against neophytes, not history buffs.

[RangerJoe]

ChatGPT gets a B from me for that response. It cites the historical strategic options without reference to WITP-AE game players' opinions. For example, lots of players that chose to attack the Philippines instead of PH cited the desire to destroy the subs there as their main aim. The invasion of the Philippines can be accomplished just fine with a little support from mini-KB (CVLs and CVEs). It also does not mention hunting Force Z with KB which some players have done.

I think a B is very generous - it didn't say anything significant, just regurgitated what everyone knows. I would give it no higher than D.

Well, if 'everyone' means all the people on this board, I agree that they know this stuff. But for the average wargame non-player they have little idea of history and geography so they would have had to search the web to assemble that strategic info on Japanese choices to start the War in the Pacific (they were already at war in China). ChatGPT assembled that info - presumably very quickly- so I was grading it against neophytes, not history buffs.

From what I saw, I would also rate it a "D" since it had no links to discussions.

[Uncivil Engineer]

ChatGPT gets a B from me for that response. It cites the historical strategic options without reference to WITP-AE game players' opinions. For example, lots of players that chose to attack the Philippines instead of PH cited the desire to destroy the subs there as their main aim. The invasion of the Philippines can be accomplished just fine with a little support from mini-KB (CVLs and CVEs). It also does not mention hunting Force Z with KB which some players have done.

I think a B is very generous - it didn't say anything significant, just regurgitated what everyone knows. I would give it no higher than D.

Well, if 'everyone' means all the people on this board, I agree that they know this stuff. But for the average wargame non-player they have little idea of history and geography so they would have had to search the web to assemble that strategic info on Japanese choices to start the War in the Pacific (they were already at war in China). ChatGPT assembled that info - presumably very quickly- so I was grading it against neophytes, not history buffs.

Since the average "man-on-the-street", and especially those under 40, think WWII was between the US and Britain and occurred around 1890, then I would give it an A! Less than 10%, I would guess, know where Pearl Harbor is located!

[btd64]

I think a B is very generous - it didn't say anything significant, just regurgitated what everyone knows. I would give it no higher than D.

Well, if 'everyone' means all the people on this board, I agree that they know this stuff. But for the average wargame non-player they have little idea of history and geography so they would have had to search the web to assemble that strategic info on Japanese choices to start the War in the Pacific (they were already at war in China). ChatGPT assembled that info - presumably very quickly- so I was grading it against neophytes, not history buffs.

Since the average "man-on-the-street", and especially those under 40, think WWII was between the US and Britain and occurred around 1890, then I would give it an A! Less than 10%, I would guess, know where Pearl Harbor is located!

Most Americans cannot identify there own state ....GP

[BBfanboy]

Well, if 'everyone' means all the people on this board, I agree that they know this stuff. But for the average wargame non-player they have little idea of history and geography so they would have had to search the web to assemble that strategic info on Japanese choices to start the War in the Pacific (they were already at war in China). ChatGPT assembled that info - presumably very quickly- so I was grading it against neophytes, not history buffs.

Since the average "man-on-the-street", and especially those under 40, think WWII was between the US and Britain and occurred around 1890, then I would give it an A! Less than 10%, I would guess, know where Pearl Harbor is located!

Most Americans cannot identify there own state ....GP

And yet they know every detail of celebrities' lives - even stuff that should be private. All part of the entertainment machine that distracts us all the time if we let it. I stopped following NHL hockey players when they expanded beyond the original 6 teams and it became difficult to follow any but the very best players (Orr and Esposito, Clarke and Leach). Today there are OCD people who are expert on a single team or individual player but no one can follow it all. Maybe that is a use for the CHAT GPT AI - analyzing player & team stats for sports betting. Would love to see the gambling establishments take a beating.

[Zovs]

I don't need chatgpct or whatever, I have an imagination ... stream of consciousness follows ...

Blue moons hovered over the distant sea, I thought I had seen this before but no it was not just a dream but a reality. Scared mind and soul confessions of a long forgotten era of senseless deaths passed before my wondering mind. Caught in a hail storm of tracers, dream like and in slow motion I moved, but gravity defied my mental clarity and a wrong step and I felt the searing pain in my chest as the bullet struck and tore into my flesh. What seamed like hours I lay on the golden sand as my life slipped away and then suddenly I was lifted up by hands unseen and in the dream my sweaty brow was cleansed from within my mind as the shattered landscape drifted by. I know not whence I came but only where I lay. Sweat dreams, no pain no more as I drift into the abyss.

- Donald G. L...1963

lol 3 years before my birth, the vision came, but only today ten seconds ago, it passed before my eyes, so long chaps, say hello to the lads, chip chip merry o and a cup of tea.

DGL ...