ALLIED FIGHTERS - The Numbers: 41-45

[Saros]

ORIGINAL: Nalamin
1) The boosted Japanese air forces have caused higher losses.
2) In the real war disabled and destroyed aircraft were cannibalized to keep planes flying. Is this reflected in the game?
3) I think the attrition rates for ground aircraft may be a bit high.

For every 5 planes lost to "write offs" another fresh one is conjured and placed into the unit.

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ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson 3

ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: crsutton

Well, at first I was going to make some sort of snide remark about you having too much time on your hand and in sore need of a girlfriend.[;)] But after reading through the numbers found your charts to be very informative and useful. So, thanks and just forget about that girlfriend..[:D]

Well, we're engaged now, so I have a bit more time until the 'planning' begins in ernest. [;)]

I am a teacher, so these first few weeks of summer I can do some things at leisure before my other projects are in full swing.

Obvert you have my sympathy, I was a teacher for 36 years and count myself lucky I am no longer one with the madness of the current regime. Enjoy your summer, you will have earned it.

Roger

Thanks Roger. I don't have it bad at all, being in an international school where the students are bright, interested and well behaved. I love what I teach and that is what makes the work hard, long houred and exhausting, but also very fulfilling. The summer is still a much needed time to gather the energy back, to reflect and just play a bit.

And count up airframes ... what was I thinking? [:D]

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ORIGINAL: Walloc

ORIGINAL: obvert

I fixed the P-38 variants as you pointed out, and the P-51 line up to the P-51D. For the P-51H LoBaron advocates 250/month but the number shown in game would be different if carrying over the P-51D factories. Would the total be 292 + 150 = 442/month?

If I'm still playing by then for either side I don't really care anyway, I'm just happy! [;)]

Production
30 P 51 B factory/production, upgrading to P 51H through P 51D
90 P 51 D factory/production, upgrading to P 51H
130 P 51H factory/production
= 250

Replacement of P51H 162. So 250+162= 412 P 51H

Remember only factories/production upgrade not replacement. The difference between 412 and 442 is the 30 replacement of P 51D that doesnt upgrade as its replacements. It just stops. Yeah its tricky when there is both production and replacements.

Kind regards,

Rasmus

Perfect. Updated.

Thanks Rasmus![:)]

[Skyros]

Another thing to remember is that there is sometimes a month or two delay in allied factories switching over to new production which will reduce the numbers produce.

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ORIGINAL: Skyros

Another thing to remember is that there is sometimes a month or two delay in allied factories switching over to new production which will reduce the numbers produce.

Ahhh. Good to know.

[PaxMondo]

Doesn't change the numbers, just the model.

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Doesn't change the numbers, just the model.

Pax is correct as the "old" model just stays in production until it upgrades, which usually happens late anyway

[inqistor]

ORIGINAL: obvert

For a long while I've been hearing that the Allied production numbers are just a portion of what the Allies get each month and that the incoming groups have a lot of extra planes that change the scope of the Allied OOB considerably. I finally had some time to explore this further.

I counted up the incoming group numbers, then calculated the production number for all nations throughout the war, including the Soviet numbers only for 45. For incoming US Navy groups I counted only the CVE replenishment groups, not the normal operating CV groups as the Japanese side also gets filled out groups for the CVs. This is really an assessment of how to think about the numbers to be able to compare the sides capabilities throughout the campaign.

Someone may have done this before, and I might have done a lot of work for nothing, but it was interesting and I learned a bunch. Here it is.

Good job!

Although... to possibly give you even more work...
Have you counted returning airgroups? I am pretty sure, at least some of them return with new planes, especially if they change their profile (like from bomber into fighter unit)