Magic Torpedoes

[Zigurat666]

I have a base size 3 port size 3 airfield that has a squad of betties. The only HQ within 1000 miles is a Naval HQ and there are no other torpedo capable LCU's present, yet this squadron has torpedoes loaded every turn. I cant figure out how this is working?

[geofflambert]

ORIGINAL: Zigurat666

I have a base size 3 port size 3 airfield that has a squad of betties. The only HQ within 1000 miles is a Naval HQ and there are no other torpedo capable LCU's present, yet this squadron has torpedoes loaded every turn. I cant figure out how this is working?

What ships in harbor?

[Jorge_Stanbury]

Should it matter if there are torpedo carrying ships at harbor? I mean he mentioned Betties, which are not carrier capable

[Alpha77]

I wanted to ask the same But did also not ask TOO many stupid questions, so OP thanks I was told that air HQs will supply torps to bases in range. However like the OP I now have "yellow" torps with NO HQ in range. But it is TRUK so a BIG base...

But also OP says "size3" field, so with 2E Betties they should not fly a mission with torps anyway, needs size 4 for 2E iirc...if it were 1E torp planes than I guess size 3 is enough.

[Chris21wen]

If I remember correctly there are two (might be one) so called Japanese Naval HQs that are in fact Command HQs. The Naval HQ you mention might be one of these.

[Oberst_Klink]

ORIGINAL: Chris H

If I remember correctly there are two (might be one) so called Japanese Naval HQs that are in fact Command HQs. The Naval HQ you mention might be one of these.

Likely that Combined Fleet supplies them with torpedoes.

Klink, Oberst

[Alpha77]

ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink

ORIGINAL: Chris H

If I remember correctly there are two (might be one) so called Japanese Naval HQs that are in fact Command HQs. The Naval HQ you mention might be one of these.

Likely that Combined Fleet supplies them with torpedoes.

Klink, Oberst

Nav HQ´s do not have torpdoes, and comb. fleet does not have them too.

Still wondering if the yellow torp is just an error. I checked again and def. there is no air HQ in range but both the Kates and Betties are yellow. This is why I speculated before that the planes brought with them some torps from their former location (which then needed to have torp supply, in this case for Bettys an air HQ and for Kates the CV they came from)[&:]

Edit, the Mavis located at the base with the comb.fleet has torp in red, means none are there.

[Oberst_Klink]

What HQ are they assigned to? What base, how much supply? What port/AF size? Screenshot would help,. too.

Klink, Oberst

[MBF]

If you move planes already loaded with torpedoes to a new base - don't they 'keep' those torpedoes until used ? That has been my experience playing vs the AI

[Alpha77]

ORIGINAL: MBF

If you move planes already loaded with torpedoes to a new base - don't they 'keep' those torpedoes until used ? That has been my experience playing vs the AI

This was my thought too, but some guys more knowledgeable seemed to dismiss this.

@ Oberst: I do not think it matter which HQ planes are assigned to, manual and everyone I read here just say they need to be in range of an air HQ with torps. Not the HQ they are assigned to can only supply torps but ANY HQ....[:)]

[HansBolter]

Drawing on a very foggy memory, but isn't there at least one function of air HQ's that extends to double their stated range?

Could it perhaps be the supplying of torpedoes?

Could it be that you just think you don't have any air HQs in range?

We really need Alfred to chime in! [:)]

[Oberst_Klink]

Only one way to find out... a test, but would be interesting to know which HQ the Bettys are assigned to after all.

Klink, Oberst

[Alpha77]

Oberst, they are assigned to 23 air flotilla... and the Kates are indipendent (so lucky ones?) [:D] I would like to make a test if this was an AI game, I could load the AI turn and send some ships over there to check if these planes really do torp attacks....

[geofflambert]

AKEs can turn supply into aerial torpedoes. So despite the small size of the port, if an AKE were present those torpedoes could be present given sufficient supply. Could an IJN AKE supply an IJN Betty squadron with those torpedoes? I don't know. Apparently no one else who's posted here knows either. Is there an AKE in port? Is there any sort of CV or CVL that has an inventory of those in port? Type 91 torpedoes are used by both Betties and Kates. Somebody wanted to figure out how this could happen. Just trying to help.

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: Alpha77

Oberst, they are assigned to 23 air flotilla... and the Kates are indipendent (so lucky ones?) [:D] I would like to make a test if this was an AI game, I could load the AI turn and send some ships over there to check if these planes really do torp attacks....

You haven't listed what LCUs are at the base and which are within 6-9 hexes. Until you do that everyone is swinging wildly.

[Alpha77]

Why should I list the units the only ones thatcan supply torps are air HQs... and there is none in range. I double checked. Next air HQ with torps is at Rabaul (distance 17 from Truk).There is 4th fleet at Truk which is a naval command HQ, but it has no torp option.

@ Geoff, no AKE, no CV... aux there are AG, AO and AS. Checked other locations with loaded AKE but no torps there.

[BBfanboy]

If the squadron had torpedoes when it transferred to the base, I think it will likely continue to fly with them until they are used and then will have to switch to bombs.

[btd64]

ORIGINAL: Alpha77

Why should I list the units the only ones thatcan supply torps are air HQs... and there is none in range. I double checked. Next air HQ with torps is at Rabaul (distance 17 from Truk).There is 4th fleet at Truk which is a naval command HQ, but it has no torp option.

@ Geoff, no AKE, no CV... aux there are AG, AO and AS. Checked other locations with loaded AKE but no torps there.

4th fleet is a "Command HQ" and can supply Torps without a Torp supply device. Range is a factor, but I don't remember the range restriction....GP

[Grfin Zeppelin]

ORIGINAL: Alpha77

ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink

ORIGINAL: Chris H

If I remember correctly there are two (might be one) so called Japanese Naval HQs that are in fact Command HQs. The Naval HQ you mention might be one of these.

Likely that Combined Fleet supplies them with torpedoes.They dont need torpedos for doing that.

Klink, Oberst

Nav HQ´s do not have torpdoes, and comb. fleet does not have them too.

Command HQs do supply torpedos with using supply.

The suspects are
Southern Army
China Area
5th fleet
4th Fleet
Southeast area

All of those can supply torpedos to bases within range.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: Alpha77

ORIGINAL: MBF

If you move planes already loaded with torpedoes to a new base - don't they 'keep' those torpedoes until used ? That has been my experience playing vs the AI

This was my thought too, but some guys more knowledgeable seemed to dismiss this.

@ Oberst: I do not think it matter which HQ planes are assigned to, manual and everyone I read here just say they need to be in range of an air HQ with torps. Not the HQ they are assigned to can only supply torps but ANY HQ....[:)]

No. The torpedoes do not travel with the planes. You can check this by watching the Using TORPEDOES text turn red when you transfer them to a base that does not have access to torpedoes.