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Don't forget to have transports in TF set to have Midway as the final destination while they move elsewhere!
Ahh, very sneaky.
Just don't have escorts with short legs.
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Logistics in the Pacific - USSAmerica (A), Mike (J)
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Just don't have escorts with short legs.
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RE: Logistics in the Pacific - USSAmerica (A), Mike (J)
The war is back on, guys! Mike was busy these past few months with RL (work, holidays, having a house built and then moving in, and other stuff). I got the turn a week ago and almost got it done when our male cat, Mo, decided to have a urinary tract blockage. He was in and out of the vet clinic, but it ended up with him having surgery. He's good now and will come home Monday. I finally got the turn back to Mike this morning. It was a fun and eventful turn. [;)]
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RE: Logistics in the Pacific - USSAmerica (A), Mike (J)
18 Dec 41
Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
The Adak invasion force is fully landed (7 Base Force and 5 JNAF AF Unit). Their 36 engineers will work on the airfield for starters. The 3 infantry battalions of 90 IR are fully loaded at Rashin but are still loading supply. Tentatively, they are scheduled to land at Adak, Umnak and Dutch Harbor. The last 2 are still tentative. We’ll see if Mike decides to offer any opposition up there. At any rate, once they do move out, it’ll be about 9 days steam to get there. Once Adak’s airfield reaches level 1 I’ll buy out some fighters and after level 2, they’ll get some naval search. Again, everything is tentative there. I have few assets available right now.
4 Fleet
So, the 2 Independent SNLF Company was going to show the I/33 IR how to take Guam, right? Yeah, right… The result was high disruption of the Marines and no losses. [8|] The slackers. Tomorrow, the IJA infantry will try for a shock attack. This is getting ridiculous. I’m going to take Guam even if it takes every last soldier of I/33 IR. (They withdraw in 164 days.)
SE Fleet
Landings continued at Rabaul. The Aussie 6” guns did good work badly damaging a couple of xAKs (Yusen-N and Husimi). They would both sink later in the day, one of them still carrying a 60% of the 7 Naval Construction Battalion. [:@] The rest of the invasion force landed successfully and took Rabaul. Fighters and Betty bombers were flown in to help secure the area.
Rabaul was liberated easily by 144 Regiment. Fortunately, that nasty Rabaul Det. Base Force with the nasty 6” guns was destroyed. The two infantry units were trashed and scurried off into the jungle, where they will eventually starve. The Betties stationed at Rabaul have a secondary mission of ground attack and will hasten their departure.
Oh yeah, there are 2 more ships that are burning furiously sitting in port. I hope they unload some of their supply before they sink. [8|]
There were successful landings at Gasmata. It will be liberated tomorrow. This is where I will station 11 Air Fleet HQ, with torpedoes. That will allow all the bases within 5 hexes of Gasmata to have torpedoes available. Then I won’t have to keep all my Betties in one basket.
Lots more going on here too. KB is currently 5 hexes east of Rabaul, and still unspotted. Tomorrow, they will move to a spot 3 hexes east of Woodlark Island. There they will secure the southern flank of the current operations and the upcoming invasion of Pt. Moresby.
The Pt. Moresby invasion force (4 ID and 1 Maizuru SNLF [garrison]) is currently 3 hexes NE of Lae. It will move to a point 2 hexes SW of Gasmata where the BB cover force (2 BB, 1 CL, 2 DD – currently at Gasmata) will join it. They will then move toward Pt. Moresby and arrive 2-3 days later.
There are also two small invasion TFs. The first will land at Finschaven tomorrow and the second will land at Lae in 2 days.
There are also 7 subs helping cover the southern flank.
There are a series of supply and fuel TFs headed toward Rabaul from Truk. Shipping will be allocated to move some of it to the newly secured bases in the area. I am also sending fuel and supply from Japan to replenish Truk. This is NOT something I plan on doing again. Future supply and fuel will come from the SRA.
SRA
Philippines: Dot Base Clean-up TF #1 invaded Laoag and will liberate it tomorrow.
Dot Base Clean-up TF #2 liberated Kudat.
5 Air Division HQ is landing so more of their planes can be based in Luzon. 23 Air Flotilla HQ and planes are moving to SE Fleet AO. 5 Air Division planes will take over the beat down of Bataan (and Manila and Clark Field while still enemy held).
About 15k troops are moving into Clark Field. While probably not enough to take it, they have 5 artillery units that will start wearing them down, along with the bombers. There are also an additional 6 heavy artillery units enroute from the liberation of Hong Kong. This additional artillery will arrive in a couple of days.
The recon regiment and an infantry regiment of 16 Division have arrived in Manila. The remainder of the division will arrive there over the next few days (it’ll combine as soon as everything arrives). 16 Division definitely can’t take Manila, but it’ll keep their attention.
I am in no hurry to take Luzon. They aren’t going anywhere. It’ll be good experience for the IJA bomber force.
Malaya: A 9 plane Zero sweep of Singapore met 9 Buffalos, shooting down 4 and damaging the rest at a cost of 1 Zero (and pilot) lost. Intel says 3 of the 5 damaged planes crashed. I see no fighters and 19 bombers in Singapore. I’ll continue the sweeps. Then, 59 Sallies plastered the airfield destroying 2 bombers and damaging another 3. There is still a little airfield damage so I know Mike’s not working on forts there today. The bombings will continue.
Over Georgetown, 18 Nates met a Buffalo and 2 Blenheim IFs, driving them off. I had moved my recon from there to Taiping (dumb mistake) so I don’t know what enemy aircraft are still there. I’ll continue the sweep and daily bombings.
The coup of the day was the 1 Raiding Regiment para drop and liberation of Taiping.
The IG division is in strat mode and sitting in Alor Star. It will rail to Taiping tomorrow. The last hurdle is the liberation of Kuala Lumpur. That will allow them to rail down to Johore Bahru to join the Singapore Liberation Army, also known as the 25 Army.
One house rule prevents us from using small slices of units for invasions and air drops. Since I used a chunk of 1 Raiding Regiment in the para drop on Taiping, I can’t use it elsewhere while it’s there. I do have 3 Yokosuka SNLF available though. They both are sitting in Bangkok (other than the “liberators of Taiping”). The longest ranged transport is the Tina at 16 hexes, but Kuala Lumpur is 17 hexes from Bangkok. Ah well. I’m moving 3 Yokosuka SNLF to Kompong Trach today and will drop them on Kuala Lumpur tomorrow. Then, IG Division is off to the races (I hope).
25 Army is sitting in Johore Bahru waiting for IG division goofing off up north and 33 Division still unloading at Mersing. Once everything arrives, the assault force will be composed of:
25 Army HQ
IG Division
5 Division
18 Division
33 Division
1 Tank Regiment
6 Tank Regiment
4 Independent Engineer Regiment
15 Independent Engineer Regiment
23 Independent Engineer Regiment
3 Medium FA Regiment
18 Medium FA Regiment
3 Independent Mountain Gun Regiment
14 Independent Artillery Mortar Regiment
3 Mortar Battalion
5 Mortar Battalion
Java: I had set 36 Nells and 27 Betties on a night bombing raid on Batavia, where my intel told me there were 26 Dutch fighters and 58 bombers stationed. Exactly 5 Betties flew, killing a bomber and damaging 2 more and doing light damage to the airfield, which was easily repaired. [8|] This is just a delaying measure. I’m planning an attack on Merak and Kaldjati and then Oosthaven. I had mentioned this earlier but have changed around my forces slightly. I am also invading Tobali as a forward fighter and recon (and possibly light bomber) base. Here are the allocated forces:
Tobali:
III/143 IR
21 IJNAF AF Unit
25 IJNAF AF Unit
8 Field AF Construction Battalion
Merak:
21 Division
Yokosuka 4 SNLF (garrison)
Kaldjati:
56 Division
22 Air Flotilla HQ
1 JAAF AF BF
(This will obviously be where I station fighters and bombers to prosecute the air war.)
Oosthaven:
48 Division
2 Tank Regiment
8 Tank Regiment
3 Independent Engineer Regiment
21 Independent Engineer Regiment
Reserve to be sent where needed:
2 Division
More forces will be allocated later, but these are in the first wave.
Just about everyone is loaded and at or within a day’s steam of Cam Ranh Bay or Singkawang. They’ll head out tomorrow.
Other Areas: A small TF composed of CL Nagara and 2 DDs sank an xAKL and an AG in two separate attacks between Ambon and Saumlaki.
Two DDs caught another AG and sank her 4 hexes south of Kendari.
Those two small Japanese TFs (and others) were a concern of mine because of the possible presence of the Dutch and Asiatic Fleets. I soon found out where the Asiatic fleet was hiding. [X(]
I had sent two fleets to Ambon because of a presence of several small Allied TFs there. The first, composed of BBs Nagato, Fuso, Ise and Hyuga, with 2 escorting DDs, found 3 AMs there and quickly dispatched them.
Then, the second fleet of 2 CA and 5 DD bombarded Ambon doing nothing. [8|]
Next, the Asiatic Fleet, composed of Houston, Boise, Marblehead and 6 DDs showed up at Ambon and took on the BB TF! This event was basically volume of fire vs. weight of shell. I wasn’t too worried about the 6” and down shells (unless they hit my DDs or BB superstructure). It turned out Houston never hit anything with an 8” shell. Here’s the result:
Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 9 (24-0-3-0) – damage from the superstructure hits
BB Fuso, Shell hits 2 (2-0-0-0)
BB Ise, Shell hits 9 (14-0-1-0) – damage from the superstructure hits
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 6 (1-0-1-0)
DD Asagumo (1-0-0-0)
DD Mikazuki, Shell hits (0-2-0-0)
Allied Ships
CA Houston, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL Marblehead, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
CL Boise, Shell hits 7, heavy fires
DD Barker, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Edsall, Shell hits 4, heavy fires
DD John D. Edwards
DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 1
DD Parrott, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
DD Stewart, Shell hits 1
Of the surviving US ships, 3 are 2 hexes south of Ambon (probably Houston, Boise and Edsall) and the remaining 4 are 4 hexes south of Ambon. I don’t have any ships in the area that have enough ammo. At any rate, I don’t want to expose any smaller ships to the 8” and 6” guns. I have several subs in the area moving in hoping to get a shot at the damaged ships. The only carrier I have that has a remote shot at being in range of them is Hosho, and she has only 6 Kates and (15 Claudes) aboard. Her escorts don’t have enough fuel to pursue, so she’ll head back to Babeldaob to refuel and pick up Taiyo (12 Claudes, 12 Vals, 3 Kates) and probably Chitose (24 FP) then head out for more mayhem.
Burma
Still plodding forward.
I still see 92 fighters at Rangoon, undoubtedly the AVG. I’m sending some bombers on a night mission to piss them off.
China
Four bombing raids destroyed 26 infantry and 18 other squads.
There were various attacks.
Chuhsien was liberated unopposed. The 20 resources were undamaged.
Puching was also liberated unopposed.
Tsiaotso, in the north was also hit. The Chinese Corps barely held on, with the forts being reduced to 0. The attacking division and independent mixed brigade (IMB) were reinforced with another IMB and will attack again tomorrow. This base has 40 R and 40 LI, which I want to deny to the enemy. If I capture it intact, all the better!
The mountainous hex to the NE of Tsiaotso was also attacked and cleared of the enemy. Two divisions with artillery support cleared the mountains of 2 Chinese corps and a HQ inflicting heavy losses. They will pursue the remnants to the west to continue the rout.
Other Stuff
Phase II is beginning very soon. If you don’t recall, I still haven’t taken any oil producing bases. I want to decimate the Dutch bomber force. I think they’re mainly in Java now, which puts Miri, Brunei and Tarakan out of their reach. I’m loading the invasion forces for the first two today from CRB. They’ll load in a couple of days and take a few more to reach their targets. I also have 3x 10k supply TFs ready to head to Miri from CRB to start on the 150+ oil that needs to be repaired. I’ll keep the small supply TFs headed there every 10 days or so.
Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
The Adak invasion force is fully landed (7 Base Force and 5 JNAF AF Unit). Their 36 engineers will work on the airfield for starters. The 3 infantry battalions of 90 IR are fully loaded at Rashin but are still loading supply. Tentatively, they are scheduled to land at Adak, Umnak and Dutch Harbor. The last 2 are still tentative. We’ll see if Mike decides to offer any opposition up there. At any rate, once they do move out, it’ll be about 9 days steam to get there. Once Adak’s airfield reaches level 1 I’ll buy out some fighters and after level 2, they’ll get some naval search. Again, everything is tentative there. I have few assets available right now.
4 Fleet
So, the 2 Independent SNLF Company was going to show the I/33 IR how to take Guam, right? Yeah, right… The result was high disruption of the Marines and no losses. [8|] The slackers. Tomorrow, the IJA infantry will try for a shock attack. This is getting ridiculous. I’m going to take Guam even if it takes every last soldier of I/33 IR. (They withdraw in 164 days.)
SE Fleet
Landings continued at Rabaul. The Aussie 6” guns did good work badly damaging a couple of xAKs (Yusen-N and Husimi). They would both sink later in the day, one of them still carrying a 60% of the 7 Naval Construction Battalion. [:@] The rest of the invasion force landed successfully and took Rabaul. Fighters and Betty bombers were flown in to help secure the area.
Rabaul was liberated easily by 144 Regiment. Fortunately, that nasty Rabaul Det. Base Force with the nasty 6” guns was destroyed. The two infantry units were trashed and scurried off into the jungle, where they will eventually starve. The Betties stationed at Rabaul have a secondary mission of ground attack and will hasten their departure.
Oh yeah, there are 2 more ships that are burning furiously sitting in port. I hope they unload some of their supply before they sink. [8|]
There were successful landings at Gasmata. It will be liberated tomorrow. This is where I will station 11 Air Fleet HQ, with torpedoes. That will allow all the bases within 5 hexes of Gasmata to have torpedoes available. Then I won’t have to keep all my Betties in one basket.
Lots more going on here too. KB is currently 5 hexes east of Rabaul, and still unspotted. Tomorrow, they will move to a spot 3 hexes east of Woodlark Island. There they will secure the southern flank of the current operations and the upcoming invasion of Pt. Moresby.
The Pt. Moresby invasion force (4 ID and 1 Maizuru SNLF [garrison]) is currently 3 hexes NE of Lae. It will move to a point 2 hexes SW of Gasmata where the BB cover force (2 BB, 1 CL, 2 DD – currently at Gasmata) will join it. They will then move toward Pt. Moresby and arrive 2-3 days later.
There are also two small invasion TFs. The first will land at Finschaven tomorrow and the second will land at Lae in 2 days.
There are also 7 subs helping cover the southern flank.
There are a series of supply and fuel TFs headed toward Rabaul from Truk. Shipping will be allocated to move some of it to the newly secured bases in the area. I am also sending fuel and supply from Japan to replenish Truk. This is NOT something I plan on doing again. Future supply and fuel will come from the SRA.
SRA
Philippines: Dot Base Clean-up TF #1 invaded Laoag and will liberate it tomorrow.
Dot Base Clean-up TF #2 liberated Kudat.
5 Air Division HQ is landing so more of their planes can be based in Luzon. 23 Air Flotilla HQ and planes are moving to SE Fleet AO. 5 Air Division planes will take over the beat down of Bataan (and Manila and Clark Field while still enemy held).
About 15k troops are moving into Clark Field. While probably not enough to take it, they have 5 artillery units that will start wearing them down, along with the bombers. There are also an additional 6 heavy artillery units enroute from the liberation of Hong Kong. This additional artillery will arrive in a couple of days.
The recon regiment and an infantry regiment of 16 Division have arrived in Manila. The remainder of the division will arrive there over the next few days (it’ll combine as soon as everything arrives). 16 Division definitely can’t take Manila, but it’ll keep their attention.
I am in no hurry to take Luzon. They aren’t going anywhere. It’ll be good experience for the IJA bomber force.
Malaya: A 9 plane Zero sweep of Singapore met 9 Buffalos, shooting down 4 and damaging the rest at a cost of 1 Zero (and pilot) lost. Intel says 3 of the 5 damaged planes crashed. I see no fighters and 19 bombers in Singapore. I’ll continue the sweeps. Then, 59 Sallies plastered the airfield destroying 2 bombers and damaging another 3. There is still a little airfield damage so I know Mike’s not working on forts there today. The bombings will continue.
Over Georgetown, 18 Nates met a Buffalo and 2 Blenheim IFs, driving them off. I had moved my recon from there to Taiping (dumb mistake) so I don’t know what enemy aircraft are still there. I’ll continue the sweep and daily bombings.
The coup of the day was the 1 Raiding Regiment para drop and liberation of Taiping.
The IG division is in strat mode and sitting in Alor Star. It will rail to Taiping tomorrow. The last hurdle is the liberation of Kuala Lumpur. That will allow them to rail down to Johore Bahru to join the Singapore Liberation Army, also known as the 25 Army.One house rule prevents us from using small slices of units for invasions and air drops. Since I used a chunk of 1 Raiding Regiment in the para drop on Taiping, I can’t use it elsewhere while it’s there. I do have 3 Yokosuka SNLF available though. They both are sitting in Bangkok (other than the “liberators of Taiping”). The longest ranged transport is the Tina at 16 hexes, but Kuala Lumpur is 17 hexes from Bangkok. Ah well. I’m moving 3 Yokosuka SNLF to Kompong Trach today and will drop them on Kuala Lumpur tomorrow. Then, IG Division is off to the races (I hope).
25 Army is sitting in Johore Bahru waiting for IG division goofing off up north and 33 Division still unloading at Mersing. Once everything arrives, the assault force will be composed of:
25 Army HQ
IG Division
5 Division
18 Division
33 Division
1 Tank Regiment
6 Tank Regiment
4 Independent Engineer Regiment
15 Independent Engineer Regiment
23 Independent Engineer Regiment
3 Medium FA Regiment
18 Medium FA Regiment
3 Independent Mountain Gun Regiment
14 Independent Artillery Mortar Regiment
3 Mortar Battalion
5 Mortar Battalion
Java: I had set 36 Nells and 27 Betties on a night bombing raid on Batavia, where my intel told me there were 26 Dutch fighters and 58 bombers stationed. Exactly 5 Betties flew, killing a bomber and damaging 2 more and doing light damage to the airfield, which was easily repaired. [8|] This is just a delaying measure. I’m planning an attack on Merak and Kaldjati and then Oosthaven. I had mentioned this earlier but have changed around my forces slightly. I am also invading Tobali as a forward fighter and recon (and possibly light bomber) base. Here are the allocated forces:
Tobali:
III/143 IR
21 IJNAF AF Unit
25 IJNAF AF Unit
8 Field AF Construction Battalion
Merak:
21 Division
Yokosuka 4 SNLF (garrison)
Kaldjati:
56 Division
22 Air Flotilla HQ
1 JAAF AF BF
(This will obviously be where I station fighters and bombers to prosecute the air war.)
Oosthaven:
48 Division
2 Tank Regiment
8 Tank Regiment
3 Independent Engineer Regiment
21 Independent Engineer Regiment
Reserve to be sent where needed:
2 Division
More forces will be allocated later, but these are in the first wave.
Just about everyone is loaded and at or within a day’s steam of Cam Ranh Bay or Singkawang. They’ll head out tomorrow.
Other Areas: A small TF composed of CL Nagara and 2 DDs sank an xAKL and an AG in two separate attacks between Ambon and Saumlaki.
Two DDs caught another AG and sank her 4 hexes south of Kendari.
Those two small Japanese TFs (and others) were a concern of mine because of the possible presence of the Dutch and Asiatic Fleets. I soon found out where the Asiatic fleet was hiding. [X(]
I had sent two fleets to Ambon because of a presence of several small Allied TFs there. The first, composed of BBs Nagato, Fuso, Ise and Hyuga, with 2 escorting DDs, found 3 AMs there and quickly dispatched them.
Then, the second fleet of 2 CA and 5 DD bombarded Ambon doing nothing. [8|]
Next, the Asiatic Fleet, composed of Houston, Boise, Marblehead and 6 DDs showed up at Ambon and took on the BB TF! This event was basically volume of fire vs. weight of shell. I wasn’t too worried about the 6” and down shells (unless they hit my DDs or BB superstructure). It turned out Houston never hit anything with an 8” shell. Here’s the result:
Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 9 (24-0-3-0) – damage from the superstructure hits
BB Fuso, Shell hits 2 (2-0-0-0)
BB Ise, Shell hits 9 (14-0-1-0) – damage from the superstructure hits
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 6 (1-0-1-0)
DD Asagumo (1-0-0-0)
DD Mikazuki, Shell hits (0-2-0-0)
Allied Ships
CA Houston, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL Marblehead, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
CL Boise, Shell hits 7, heavy fires
DD Barker, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Edsall, Shell hits 4, heavy fires
DD John D. Edwards
DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 1
DD Parrott, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
DD Stewart, Shell hits 1
Of the surviving US ships, 3 are 2 hexes south of Ambon (probably Houston, Boise and Edsall) and the remaining 4 are 4 hexes south of Ambon. I don’t have any ships in the area that have enough ammo. At any rate, I don’t want to expose any smaller ships to the 8” and 6” guns. I have several subs in the area moving in hoping to get a shot at the damaged ships. The only carrier I have that has a remote shot at being in range of them is Hosho, and she has only 6 Kates and (15 Claudes) aboard. Her escorts don’t have enough fuel to pursue, so she’ll head back to Babeldaob to refuel and pick up Taiyo (12 Claudes, 12 Vals, 3 Kates) and probably Chitose (24 FP) then head out for more mayhem.
Burma
Still plodding forward.
I still see 92 fighters at Rangoon, undoubtedly the AVG. I’m sending some bombers on a night mission to piss them off.
China
Four bombing raids destroyed 26 infantry and 18 other squads.
There were various attacks.
Chuhsien was liberated unopposed. The 20 resources were undamaged.
Puching was also liberated unopposed.
Tsiaotso, in the north was also hit. The Chinese Corps barely held on, with the forts being reduced to 0. The attacking division and independent mixed brigade (IMB) were reinforced with another IMB and will attack again tomorrow. This base has 40 R and 40 LI, which I want to deny to the enemy. If I capture it intact, all the better!
The mountainous hex to the NE of Tsiaotso was also attacked and cleared of the enemy. Two divisions with artillery support cleared the mountains of 2 Chinese corps and a HQ inflicting heavy losses. They will pursue the remnants to the west to continue the rout.
Other Stuff
Phase II is beginning very soon. If you don’t recall, I still haven’t taken any oil producing bases. I want to decimate the Dutch bomber force. I think they’re mainly in Java now, which puts Miri, Brunei and Tarakan out of their reach. I’m loading the invasion forces for the first two today from CRB. They’ll load in a couple of days and take a few more to reach their targets. I also have 3x 10k supply TFs ready to head to Miri from CRB to start on the 150+ oil that needs to be repaired. I’ll keep the small supply TFs headed there every 10 days or so.
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RE: Logistics in the Pacific - USSAmerica (A), Mike (J)
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
The war is back on, guys! Mike was busy these past few months with RL (work, holidays, having a house built and then moving in, and other stuff). I got the turn a week ago and almost got it done when our male cat, Mo, decided to have a urinary tract blockage. He was in and out of the vet clinic, but it ended up with him having surgery. He's good now and will come home Monday. I finally got the turn back to Mike this morning. It was a fun and eventful turn. [;)]
Sorry about your cat 🐈. But glad that the game is back on track....GP
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RE: Logistics in the Pacific - USSAmerica (A), Mike (J)
Mo is a little trooper. He's wearing the cone of shame. He's our dog stuck in a cat's body. Right now he's laying on the table next to me. Anyway, the stitches come out in 9 days, but who's counting? Can't wait to get back to normal.
Anyway, back to the game...
Anyway, back to the game...
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RE: Logistics in the Pacific - USSAmerica (A), Mike (J)
something like this? [:)]
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19 Dec 41
Sub War
Nothing exciting to report.
5 Fleet
Three DDs visited Dutch Harbor to clear out the ships there. I figured they were YPs or AMs. Nope, there were 2 DDs and an AVD. The first engagement was brief and definitely a win for us good guys. DD Hatfield took a torpedo first thing and went down. DD Kane took a shell for little effect. They did successfully shield AVD Williamson.
Then, my DDs caught two YPs at Dutch Harbor sinking them pretty quickly.
During the day, the same DDs caught Kane and Williamson. This time, things were more even. The engagement ended with Kane burning fiercely and again, Williamson was shielded. Later in the day I heard sinking sounds (and it wasn’t one of mine). Was it Kane? Only time will tell…
Shiratsuyu took 2x 4” shells and Shigure took one. Damage was worse than I had expected with Shiratsuyu at 39-12(4)-10(1)-1 and Shigure at 10-3-2-0. They’ll both head for the Home Islands for repairs.
Engineers began working on Adak’s airfield.
The 3 battalions of 90 Infantry Regiment destined for the Aleutians are STILL loading supply. Man, they’re slow! [8|]
4 Fleet
The I/33 Infantry Regiment shock attacked by itself getting a 1:1 result but wearing down that pitiful US base force. Both units will shock attack together tomorrow.
SE Fleet
There were landings at Finschafen today. I’ll take it tomorrow.
The victors of Kavieng (I/66 Naval Guard) marched south and hit the 2/1 Ind Company beating them up some more and pushing them farther south on the island. The mission of the NG unit is to take the entire island. Eventually, the Aussies will run out of room to retreat.
Gasmata was liberated today by the 7 JNAF AF Unit. The 11 Air Fleet HQ will arrive and begin unloading tomorrow. Some repairs need to be made on the port then the airfield will start expanding, eventually to level 4.
The CA TF (4 Aobas and 3 DDs) is currently at Gasmata. They will visit Pt. Moresby tomorrow, where I can see a couple of Allied ships. I don’t anticipate anything larger than a CL, so they should be able to take care of themselves.
KB is 3 hexes east of Woodlark Island and has finally been spotted. They will move to a point 4 hexes SE of Buna tomorrow, in range of Pt. Moresby. They will cover any attempt to intervene by sea or air.
Yesterday, Mike saw only ships at Rabaul, and only because it was attacked. Today, he can see 5 TFs: the invasion and CA TFs at Gasmata, KB, the Pt. Moresby invasion TF 2 hexes SW of Gasmata (he doesn’t know that’s where they’re going), the invasion TF at Finschafen, and the Buna invasion TF (doesn’t know where this one is going either) 2 hexes west of Gasmata. What he still can’t see is the 11 Air Fleet HQ 2 hexes east of Rabaul, the Kiriwina Island (a dot base and future level 4 airfield 4 hexes SW of Gasmata) invasion TF, and the Replenishment Fleet (which he hopefully won’t ever see – 8 hexes SE of Rabaul). I hope he wasn’t drinking coffee when all that popped up. [:D]
The 144 Infantry Regiment (victors of Rabaul) have been tasked with taking Horn Island after Pt. Moresby is secured. Then, they will invade their way west and eventually find the rest of 55 Infantry Division in Burma. Talk about the grand tour!
SRA
Philippines: Fifteen Zeros swept Bataan engaging 4 US fighters and shot them all down. I still see one fighter, 2 bombers and about a dozen auxiliary aircraft in Luzon. Their air force is pretty much finished.
The 65 Brigade, along with some engineers and 5 arty units, entered Clark Field. I’m doing recon by fire tomorrow to see what’s there and its AV. Then I’ll make a decision as to what to do. There are also 6 more arty units that will begin landing in two days (from Hong Kong). They include 3 heavy, 2 mountain gun and a mortar battalion/regiment.
About half of 16 Division has made it to Manila. The rest will arrive over the next 2 days.
My goal is to take Clark Field before Manila, so the Manila garrison is isolated from Bataan. Right now I see 6 units in Manila, 7 in Clark Field and 24 in Bataan. In addition, there is 11 PA Infantry Division in San Fernando out of supply and slowly being destroyed by the air.
Finally, 3/12 PA Infantry Battalion was ousted from Tuguegarao by the Yokosuka 1 SNLF (Para unit). The PA unit got trashed and the remnants withdrew to Aparri. The paratroopers are chasing them and will destroy them, then be withdrawn for future paradrop missions.
Mindinao: An SNLF landed at Zamboanga and will take the place tomorrow. Note that this is the only location on the island that provides supply (20 LI).
There are still some units scattered around the island. There are the remnants of 5 that are at Malaybalay. Two tank regiments are attacking them tomorrow. One is at Surigao. The 146 Regiment will be there in a few days to oust them. The last one is between Davao and Dadjangas. The Kure 1 SNLF is headed there to kill it off.
Java: The Heavy Cover Force (2 BB, 6 CA, 2 CL, DD) is at Singkawang with TFs for the invasions of Tobali, Oosthaven, Merak and Kaldjati enroute. I hope to send the invasion TFs out from Singkawang within 4 days.
Supporting this effort is an air TF centered around Kaga, Ryujo and Zuiho (39 Zero, 36 Claude, 27 Val, 48 Kate).
There is also a heavy cover TF composed of Kongo, Haruna, 6 CA, 2 CL and 10 DD. They’ll provide the surface fist if needed. I originally formed this TF to counter Force Z had they been used to counter the Mersing invasion. That didn’t happen. They sat for a time at Mersing and then moved to Singkawang where they’ve been ever since. Tanaka commands them, so I expect good things if they are needed.
I see 4 Allied TFs (2 ships each) split among Merak, Batavia and Kaldjati. I believe they’re all small ships (AMc and MTB) with a couple ships in port at Batavia (probably damaged).
I have heavily reconned Oosthaven, Merak, Batavia and Kaldjati and see no ground forces at Merak or Kaldjati, only 1 small unit at Oosthaven and a lot of forces (22 units, 55k troops) at Batavia. Most of the Dutch Air Force is at Batavia (24 fighters, 45 bombers and 3 auxiliary). That is ideal for me. I doubt Tobali will make it to a level 2 airfield in time, but I’ll try to accomplish that. If the Dutch Air Force fighters are still around when that happens, I’ll station Zeros there to sweep and finish the job. Right now, the nearest base I have is Singkawang, 12 hexes away from Batavia. That’s extended range on tanks for Zeros, not how I really want to use my Zeros.
Without Tobali in business, reducing the Dutch fighters has to be a job of the carrier fighters. That job will probably fall to Zuiho’s 21 Zeros. The carriers will reach Singkawang tomorrow. I’ll probably move them in harm’s way the day after and begin the reduction of the Dutch Air Force. My initial thought is to use them as a target. I’ll put everyone on CAP and not fly the bombers at all. That should shred anything that comes my way. I don’t like doing that, but the Dutch Air Force hasn’t had much time to train in NavB. I will probably move the carriers to a hex SE of Tobali. That’s 4 hexes from Batavia. That way I’ll get every available bomber on NavB and fighter on Escort to come my way. If it works, that should be a nice increase on experience for my carrier based fighter pilots. It’ll also do double duty by killing off fighters and bombers. That’s always a good thing.
Malaya: Five British fighters met 18 Nates over Georgetown. Yeah, they are not the most modern IJAAF aircraft. All of the British fighters were driven off for no Japanese loss. I don’t see any fighters in Georgetown now, so hopefully some of them crashed and aren’t just damaged. I’ll continue to sweep.
There were 59 bomber sorties against Singapore’s airfield. Total losses were 2 Sallies shot down and two more lost to flak. My Zero sweep went in after the first bomber run engaging the only 2 undamaged Buffalos, shooting them both down. Singapore’s airfield damage is up to 20%. I won’t ever let it drop to 0 again, so no more fort building there.
The 124 Infantry Regiment attacked the FMSV and 8 Indian Brigades a hex south of Kota Bharu on the eastern rail line. Both brigades took a beating and retreated down the rail line but both survived. The regiment is already marching down to them to hopefully kill them off.
Two groups of 3 Hudsons each flew against my multitude of shipping gathering at Singkawang (more below). Their morale must have been abysmal because they fled when they saw my fighters.
Everywhere Else: DDs Sagiri and Yugiri visited Kendari sinking a large xAK, then proceeded back to Babeldaob to replenish.
I can still see the 3 damaged US ships from the BB encounter yesterday. They moved 4 hexes south and are a hex NW of Babar. I have a sub in the hex with two more within a couple of hexes. No contact though. I really hope someone gets a shot at one of the damaged ships, preferably Boise or Houston. Either way, they’re out of the war for a while.
The invasions of Miri and Brunei are leaving CRB today and will reach their targets in 3 days.
So it begins.
Burma
I still see the AVG at Rangoon. None of my “elite” IJNAF 2E bombers flew night missions against the airfield there. [8|]
China
The following attacks occurred:
Trashed a Chinese Corps a hex SW of Wuchang and pushed them south. My master plan is to turn a hex near but not in Changsha into a POW camp with everyone in the area.
Trashed another Chinese Corps 2 hexes E of Sinyang.
Took Tsaiotow trashing a Chinese Corps and leaving the infrastructure intact: Manpower 1(1), Res 40(0), LI 40(0).
Inconclusive attack a hex W of Sinyang. The enemy is withdrawing, probably in combat mode.
Between the attacks and air bombing, the Chinese lost 198 infantry, 226 non-combat, 27 engineer squads and 13 guns. The goal is >350 infantry squads destroyed a month. The other stuff is gravy since little of it will be replaced.
Other Stuff
Phase II is finally beginning. I’m setting in motion invasions of Java, southern Sumatra, Balikpapan, Miri and Brunei. Soon after that will be Tarakan, Boela and Babo.
In Phase I, the Philippines and Malaya are developing nicely, I'm taking advance bases in preparation for future phases, and the 15 Army is still crawling into Burma.
Sub War
Nothing exciting to report.
5 Fleet
Three DDs visited Dutch Harbor to clear out the ships there. I figured they were YPs or AMs. Nope, there were 2 DDs and an AVD. The first engagement was brief and definitely a win for us good guys. DD Hatfield took a torpedo first thing and went down. DD Kane took a shell for little effect. They did successfully shield AVD Williamson.
Then, my DDs caught two YPs at Dutch Harbor sinking them pretty quickly.
During the day, the same DDs caught Kane and Williamson. This time, things were more even. The engagement ended with Kane burning fiercely and again, Williamson was shielded. Later in the day I heard sinking sounds (and it wasn’t one of mine). Was it Kane? Only time will tell…
Shiratsuyu took 2x 4” shells and Shigure took one. Damage was worse than I had expected with Shiratsuyu at 39-12(4)-10(1)-1 and Shigure at 10-3-2-0. They’ll both head for the Home Islands for repairs.
Engineers began working on Adak’s airfield.
The 3 battalions of 90 Infantry Regiment destined for the Aleutians are STILL loading supply. Man, they’re slow! [8|]
4 Fleet
The I/33 Infantry Regiment shock attacked by itself getting a 1:1 result but wearing down that pitiful US base force. Both units will shock attack together tomorrow.
SE Fleet
There were landings at Finschafen today. I’ll take it tomorrow.
The victors of Kavieng (I/66 Naval Guard) marched south and hit the 2/1 Ind Company beating them up some more and pushing them farther south on the island. The mission of the NG unit is to take the entire island. Eventually, the Aussies will run out of room to retreat.
Gasmata was liberated today by the 7 JNAF AF Unit. The 11 Air Fleet HQ will arrive and begin unloading tomorrow. Some repairs need to be made on the port then the airfield will start expanding, eventually to level 4.
The CA TF (4 Aobas and 3 DDs) is currently at Gasmata. They will visit Pt. Moresby tomorrow, where I can see a couple of Allied ships. I don’t anticipate anything larger than a CL, so they should be able to take care of themselves.
KB is 3 hexes east of Woodlark Island and has finally been spotted. They will move to a point 4 hexes SE of Buna tomorrow, in range of Pt. Moresby. They will cover any attempt to intervene by sea or air.
Yesterday, Mike saw only ships at Rabaul, and only because it was attacked. Today, he can see 5 TFs: the invasion and CA TFs at Gasmata, KB, the Pt. Moresby invasion TF 2 hexes SW of Gasmata (he doesn’t know that’s where they’re going), the invasion TF at Finschafen, and the Buna invasion TF (doesn’t know where this one is going either) 2 hexes west of Gasmata. What he still can’t see is the 11 Air Fleet HQ 2 hexes east of Rabaul, the Kiriwina Island (a dot base and future level 4 airfield 4 hexes SW of Gasmata) invasion TF, and the Replenishment Fleet (which he hopefully won’t ever see – 8 hexes SE of Rabaul). I hope he wasn’t drinking coffee when all that popped up. [:D]
The 144 Infantry Regiment (victors of Rabaul) have been tasked with taking Horn Island after Pt. Moresby is secured. Then, they will invade their way west and eventually find the rest of 55 Infantry Division in Burma. Talk about the grand tour!
SRA
Philippines: Fifteen Zeros swept Bataan engaging 4 US fighters and shot them all down. I still see one fighter, 2 bombers and about a dozen auxiliary aircraft in Luzon. Their air force is pretty much finished.
The 65 Brigade, along with some engineers and 5 arty units, entered Clark Field. I’m doing recon by fire tomorrow to see what’s there and its AV. Then I’ll make a decision as to what to do. There are also 6 more arty units that will begin landing in two days (from Hong Kong). They include 3 heavy, 2 mountain gun and a mortar battalion/regiment.
About half of 16 Division has made it to Manila. The rest will arrive over the next 2 days.
My goal is to take Clark Field before Manila, so the Manila garrison is isolated from Bataan. Right now I see 6 units in Manila, 7 in Clark Field and 24 in Bataan. In addition, there is 11 PA Infantry Division in San Fernando out of supply and slowly being destroyed by the air.
Finally, 3/12 PA Infantry Battalion was ousted from Tuguegarao by the Yokosuka 1 SNLF (Para unit). The PA unit got trashed and the remnants withdrew to Aparri. The paratroopers are chasing them and will destroy them, then be withdrawn for future paradrop missions.
Mindinao: An SNLF landed at Zamboanga and will take the place tomorrow. Note that this is the only location on the island that provides supply (20 LI).
There are still some units scattered around the island. There are the remnants of 5 that are at Malaybalay. Two tank regiments are attacking them tomorrow. One is at Surigao. The 146 Regiment will be there in a few days to oust them. The last one is between Davao and Dadjangas. The Kure 1 SNLF is headed there to kill it off.
Java: The Heavy Cover Force (2 BB, 6 CA, 2 CL, DD) is at Singkawang with TFs for the invasions of Tobali, Oosthaven, Merak and Kaldjati enroute. I hope to send the invasion TFs out from Singkawang within 4 days.
Supporting this effort is an air TF centered around Kaga, Ryujo and Zuiho (39 Zero, 36 Claude, 27 Val, 48 Kate).
There is also a heavy cover TF composed of Kongo, Haruna, 6 CA, 2 CL and 10 DD. They’ll provide the surface fist if needed. I originally formed this TF to counter Force Z had they been used to counter the Mersing invasion. That didn’t happen. They sat for a time at Mersing and then moved to Singkawang where they’ve been ever since. Tanaka commands them, so I expect good things if they are needed.
I see 4 Allied TFs (2 ships each) split among Merak, Batavia and Kaldjati. I believe they’re all small ships (AMc and MTB) with a couple ships in port at Batavia (probably damaged).
I have heavily reconned Oosthaven, Merak, Batavia and Kaldjati and see no ground forces at Merak or Kaldjati, only 1 small unit at Oosthaven and a lot of forces (22 units, 55k troops) at Batavia. Most of the Dutch Air Force is at Batavia (24 fighters, 45 bombers and 3 auxiliary). That is ideal for me. I doubt Tobali will make it to a level 2 airfield in time, but I’ll try to accomplish that. If the Dutch Air Force fighters are still around when that happens, I’ll station Zeros there to sweep and finish the job. Right now, the nearest base I have is Singkawang, 12 hexes away from Batavia. That’s extended range on tanks for Zeros, not how I really want to use my Zeros.
Without Tobali in business, reducing the Dutch fighters has to be a job of the carrier fighters. That job will probably fall to Zuiho’s 21 Zeros. The carriers will reach Singkawang tomorrow. I’ll probably move them in harm’s way the day after and begin the reduction of the Dutch Air Force. My initial thought is to use them as a target. I’ll put everyone on CAP and not fly the bombers at all. That should shred anything that comes my way. I don’t like doing that, but the Dutch Air Force hasn’t had much time to train in NavB. I will probably move the carriers to a hex SE of Tobali. That’s 4 hexes from Batavia. That way I’ll get every available bomber on NavB and fighter on Escort to come my way. If it works, that should be a nice increase on experience for my carrier based fighter pilots. It’ll also do double duty by killing off fighters and bombers. That’s always a good thing.
Malaya: Five British fighters met 18 Nates over Georgetown. Yeah, they are not the most modern IJAAF aircraft. All of the British fighters were driven off for no Japanese loss. I don’t see any fighters in Georgetown now, so hopefully some of them crashed and aren’t just damaged. I’ll continue to sweep.
There were 59 bomber sorties against Singapore’s airfield. Total losses were 2 Sallies shot down and two more lost to flak. My Zero sweep went in after the first bomber run engaging the only 2 undamaged Buffalos, shooting them both down. Singapore’s airfield damage is up to 20%. I won’t ever let it drop to 0 again, so no more fort building there.
The 124 Infantry Regiment attacked the FMSV and 8 Indian Brigades a hex south of Kota Bharu on the eastern rail line. Both brigades took a beating and retreated down the rail line but both survived. The regiment is already marching down to them to hopefully kill them off.
Two groups of 3 Hudsons each flew against my multitude of shipping gathering at Singkawang (more below). Their morale must have been abysmal because they fled when they saw my fighters.
Everywhere Else: DDs Sagiri and Yugiri visited Kendari sinking a large xAK, then proceeded back to Babeldaob to replenish.
I can still see the 3 damaged US ships from the BB encounter yesterday. They moved 4 hexes south and are a hex NW of Babar. I have a sub in the hex with two more within a couple of hexes. No contact though. I really hope someone gets a shot at one of the damaged ships, preferably Boise or Houston. Either way, they’re out of the war for a while.
The invasions of Miri and Brunei are leaving CRB today and will reach their targets in 3 days.
So it begins.
Burma
I still see the AVG at Rangoon. None of my “elite” IJNAF 2E bombers flew night missions against the airfield there. [8|]
China
The following attacks occurred:
Trashed a Chinese Corps a hex SW of Wuchang and pushed them south. My master plan is to turn a hex near but not in Changsha into a POW camp with everyone in the area.
Trashed another Chinese Corps 2 hexes E of Sinyang.
Took Tsaiotow trashing a Chinese Corps and leaving the infrastructure intact: Manpower 1(1), Res 40(0), LI 40(0).
Inconclusive attack a hex W of Sinyang. The enemy is withdrawing, probably in combat mode.
Between the attacks and air bombing, the Chinese lost 198 infantry, 226 non-combat, 27 engineer squads and 13 guns. The goal is >350 infantry squads destroyed a month. The other stuff is gravy since little of it will be replaced.
Other Stuff
Phase II is finally beginning. I’m setting in motion invasions of Java, southern Sumatra, Balikpapan, Miri and Brunei. Soon after that will be Tarakan, Boela and Babo.
In Phase I, the Philippines and Malaya are developing nicely, I'm taking advance bases in preparation for future phases, and the 15 Army is still crawling into Burma.
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RE: Logistics in the Pacific - USSAmerica (A), Mike (J)
Question for the group: My intent is to have 4 divisions assault Singapore (along with arty and engineers). Two of the divisions are ready and sitting in Johore Bahru. If I crossed the river with them now, would there be another shock attack when the other divisions later crossed the river into Singapore?
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RE: Logistics in the Pacific - USSAmerica (A), Mike (J)
Yes. With just those 2 new divisions. I've observed this on many occasions....GP
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Ok, thanks. Guess I'll wait for them to drag their butts to Johore Bahru.
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RE: Logistics in the Pacific - USSAmerica (A), Mike (J)
Mike,ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
Question for the group: My intent is to have 4 divisions assault Singapore (along with arty and engineers). Two of the divisions are ready and sitting in Johore Bahru. If I crossed the river with them now, would there be another shock attack when the other divisions later crossed the river into Singapore?
this from Alfred:
The initial crossing of a river into an enemy controlled hex will initiate a shock attack through that hex side. Additional crossings into that hex through another hex side will also initiate another shock attack.
To avoid follow up troops shock attacking across a hex side already passed through at least 1/3 of the unadjusted AV value of the defender must have crossed that particular hex side by the attacker during the initial assault. So, if the defender has an unadjusted AV of 450, the attacker must use at least 150 AV in the initial crossing for follow up troops to cross freely across the same hex side. Anything less than 150 AV would require further shock attacks until the 1/3 rule is met. If a different hex side is used, all bets are off and the attacker must shock attack and again meet the 1/3 rule for successive forces to cross freely.
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Mike,
also, what does crossing with two divisions get you? The lead division will be wrecked, regardless, and will not recover adequately to take part in the assault. Unless you think his forces so weak that the remaining forces can take the city, the only thing you gain is a little bit of recovery time towards your next phase operations. The risk is both divisions are wrecked.
also, what does crossing with two divisions get you? The lead division will be wrecked, regardless, and will not recover adequately to take part in the assault. Unless you think his forces so weak that the remaining forces can take the city, the only thing you gain is a little bit of recovery time towards your next phase operations. The risk is both divisions are wrecked.
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Mike,
also, what does crossing with two divisions get you? The lead division will be wrecked, regardless, and will not recover adequately to take part in the assault. Unless you think his forces so weak that the remaining forces can take the city, the only thing you gain is a little bit of recovery time towards your next phase operations. The risk is both divisions are wrecked.
Very good argument. I'll wait until I have all four divisions. Then I'll cross.
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Sub War
I see at least 5 subs, probably all Dutch, just off Mersing. I’m sending as many ASW capable ships there to try and kill or damage some. So far, just a near miss on one so far, but more ships are enroute.
The Dutch were successful today. They caught an ASW TF off Jolo and obliterated Ch 17. Too bad. Those SCs eventually get decent depth charges. Not this one.
5 Fleet
Two of the 3 battalions of 90 Regiment are on their way to Adak. I need more engineers up here to get the airfield going faster. I have 12 engineer companies and the electric engineer unit heading south out of Manchuoko. I'm buying them out and will send them to strategic locations to start the building. I'm not sure how I'll divide them up, but I have a few days to decide who's going where.
4 Fleet
The fiasco at Guam continues. Both units attacked and got 1:2 odds (16:19 adjusted AV) with level 1 forts. This is ridiculous. I get an elite NG company at Saipan in 6 days. I’ll send them in to do it.
SE Fleet
Thirteen Zeros swept Pt. Moresby today. There were no enemy fighters. I suspect he has no planes there.
Troops landed at Kiriwina Island (one of the dot hexes SW of Gasmata). It’ll eventually build its airfield up to level 4. Small tactical error here. The AS unit I landed has no infantry. I set them to accept replacements in the hopes they add some infantry so they can assault the base. Sheesh. [8|]
Finschafen was liberated.
I did screw up. The 4 Division is the Pt. Moresby invasion force. They made it to Pt. Moresby today but I forgot to set the TF to land its troops. *Sigh* [8|]
SRA
Philippines: Over Manila, a lone P-26A launched against the daily Zero sweep and was promptly shot down.
Bombers caused moderate damage to Manila’s airfield. No more fort building for awhile. Now both Manila and Clark Field have airfield damage. Of course I forgot to put some bombers on Bataan.
I’m putting some bombers on Bataan now.
I bombarded Clark Field. Here are the defenders:
192nd Tank Battalion (47 AV)
21st PA Infantry Division (49 AV)
26th PS Cavalry Regiment (45 AV)
194th Tank Battalion (55 AV)
86th PS Coastal Artillery Battalion
Cavite USN Base Force (1 AV)
Subic Bay Defenses
And my forces:
65th Brigade (241 AV)
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
56th Const Co
14th Army
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Engineer Construction Battalion
with another 6 artillery units landing to join the fun. I’ll keep bombarding and think about attacking after the reinforcing artillery warms their tubes for a bit.
Mindanao: The 2 tank regiments shock attacked Malaybalay and pushed out the Allied rabble. None of the five units died, but they’re definitely hurting. The tanks will chase them down to finish them off.
Zamboanga was liberated pushing out the defenders. The infrastructure was intact at Manpower 1(1), Resources 20(0) and LI 20(0). I’ll let the rabble die on the vine.
Malaya: The day started with a flight of Zeros meeting 4 Buffalos over Singapore. Each side lost one with the remaining Buffalos damaged.
Bombers added to the airfield damage to Singapore.
The Yokosuka 3 SNLF paradropped into Kuala Lumpur liberating it.
Mike is being a pain in the butt in Malaya. Little units are wandering around all over the place. It’s like herding cats. I’ll post a picture. He’s putting units on the rail lines. It’s like he knows I want to move the IG Division down a rail line to Johore Bahru. It appears there is one unit in Temuloh (middle of Malaya on the eastern rail line) and it is moving west to the western rail line. I’ll have Yokosuka 3 SNLF available tomorrow to drop there the day after. If that works, then I’ll have only the 8 Indian Brigade rabble a hex to the north to clear off the eastern rail line. Then IG Division can use that line to get to Johore Bahru. It should get there about the same time 33 Division gets there marching from Mersing. Then the assault force can go into Singapore.
Java: Eight Betties finally made a night attack on Batavia’s airfield. At a cost of one Betty lost to flak, they did minor damage to the airfield and damaged 3 bombers. Wonderful.
Two small night attacks against Merak attempted to hit a couple of AMcs unsuccessfully. More wonderful planning on the part of my commander.
Sumatra: Its days are numbered. More on that tomorrow.
Other Places: Singkawang is the rally point for the invasions of Merak, Kaldjati and Oosthaven. Eight Hudsons bravely attacked and a couple were shot down while the rest fled. Kaga’s TF was there.
Burma
Still crawling toward Moulmein. The AVG is still at Rangoon too.
China
Small attacks and some maneuvering. I’ve noticed that Mike is forming a line. I’ll concentrate and punch through somewhere to cause problems.
Other Stuff
Nothing exciting.
Sub War
I see at least 5 subs, probably all Dutch, just off Mersing. I’m sending as many ASW capable ships there to try and kill or damage some. So far, just a near miss on one so far, but more ships are enroute.
The Dutch were successful today. They caught an ASW TF off Jolo and obliterated Ch 17. Too bad. Those SCs eventually get decent depth charges. Not this one.
5 Fleet
Two of the 3 battalions of 90 Regiment are on their way to Adak. I need more engineers up here to get the airfield going faster. I have 12 engineer companies and the electric engineer unit heading south out of Manchuoko. I'm buying them out and will send them to strategic locations to start the building. I'm not sure how I'll divide them up, but I have a few days to decide who's going where.
4 Fleet
The fiasco at Guam continues. Both units attacked and got 1:2 odds (16:19 adjusted AV) with level 1 forts. This is ridiculous. I get an elite NG company at Saipan in 6 days. I’ll send them in to do it.
SE Fleet
Thirteen Zeros swept Pt. Moresby today. There were no enemy fighters. I suspect he has no planes there.
Troops landed at Kiriwina Island (one of the dot hexes SW of Gasmata). It’ll eventually build its airfield up to level 4. Small tactical error here. The AS unit I landed has no infantry. I set them to accept replacements in the hopes they add some infantry so they can assault the base. Sheesh. [8|]
Finschafen was liberated.
I did screw up. The 4 Division is the Pt. Moresby invasion force. They made it to Pt. Moresby today but I forgot to set the TF to land its troops. *Sigh* [8|]
SRA
Philippines: Over Manila, a lone P-26A launched against the daily Zero sweep and was promptly shot down.
Bombers caused moderate damage to Manila’s airfield. No more fort building for awhile. Now both Manila and Clark Field have airfield damage. Of course I forgot to put some bombers on Bataan.
I’m putting some bombers on Bataan now.
I bombarded Clark Field. Here are the defenders:
192nd Tank Battalion (47 AV)
21st PA Infantry Division (49 AV)
26th PS Cavalry Regiment (45 AV)
194th Tank Battalion (55 AV)
86th PS Coastal Artillery Battalion
Cavite USN Base Force (1 AV)
Subic Bay Defenses
And my forces:
65th Brigade (241 AV)
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
56th Const Co
14th Army
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Engineer Construction Battalion
with another 6 artillery units landing to join the fun. I’ll keep bombarding and think about attacking after the reinforcing artillery warms their tubes for a bit.
Mindanao: The 2 tank regiments shock attacked Malaybalay and pushed out the Allied rabble. None of the five units died, but they’re definitely hurting. The tanks will chase them down to finish them off.
Zamboanga was liberated pushing out the defenders. The infrastructure was intact at Manpower 1(1), Resources 20(0) and LI 20(0). I’ll let the rabble die on the vine.
Malaya: The day started with a flight of Zeros meeting 4 Buffalos over Singapore. Each side lost one with the remaining Buffalos damaged.
Bombers added to the airfield damage to Singapore.
The Yokosuka 3 SNLF paradropped into Kuala Lumpur liberating it.
Mike is being a pain in the butt in Malaya. Little units are wandering around all over the place. It’s like herding cats. I’ll post a picture. He’s putting units on the rail lines. It’s like he knows I want to move the IG Division down a rail line to Johore Bahru. It appears there is one unit in Temuloh (middle of Malaya on the eastern rail line) and it is moving west to the western rail line. I’ll have Yokosuka 3 SNLF available tomorrow to drop there the day after. If that works, then I’ll have only the 8 Indian Brigade rabble a hex to the north to clear off the eastern rail line. Then IG Division can use that line to get to Johore Bahru. It should get there about the same time 33 Division gets there marching from Mersing. Then the assault force can go into Singapore.
Java: Eight Betties finally made a night attack on Batavia’s airfield. At a cost of one Betty lost to flak, they did minor damage to the airfield and damaged 3 bombers. Wonderful.
Two small night attacks against Merak attempted to hit a couple of AMcs unsuccessfully. More wonderful planning on the part of my commander.
Sumatra: Its days are numbered. More on that tomorrow.
Other Places: Singkawang is the rally point for the invasions of Merak, Kaldjati and Oosthaven. Eight Hudsons bravely attacked and a couple were shot down while the rest fled. Kaga’s TF was there.
Burma
Still crawling toward Moulmein. The AVG is still at Rangoon too.
China
Small attacks and some maneuvering. I’ve noticed that Mike is forming a line. I’ll concentrate and punch through somewhere to cause problems.
Other Stuff
Nothing exciting.
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21 Dec 41
Sub War
The IJN Submarine force was determined to get retribution for the loss of Ch 17. They sailed into the port of Kalidjati and torpedoed and sank the AMc Endeh. [:D]
My glorious ASW forces swarmed the seas off Mersing looking for the Dutch subs known to be in the area. They found one and managed nothing but a near miss. [8|]
5 Fleet
Nothing exciting. [>:]
4 Fleet
Tarawa was finally invaded and fell in the shock attack.
SE Fleet
Buna was liberated today.
Two SNLF squads arrived as replacements in the 10 JNAF AF Unit sitting at Kiriwina Island. Now they can liberate the joint. I can see it. 764 guys sitting on this little island with no enemy in sight. 34 Imperial Marines arrive a day later and the commander says, go take this island we’ve been sitting on for the past 24 hours. [:'(]
I finally gave 4 Division permission to land at Pt. Moresby, where they’ve been sitting on ships just looking at it for the past 24 hours. [:D]
SRA
Philippines: I believe the last Allied fighter was shot down yesterday. I’m still sweeping but found nothing today.
The remainder of 16 Division (451 AV) arrived in Manila today, so I combined them into the division. I bombarded to get an idea of the defenses:
41st PA Infantry Division (143 AV)
51st PA Infantry Division (137 AV)
1st PA Infantry Division (131 AV)
South Luzon Force (1 AV)
Manila USAAF Base Force
PAF Aviation /1
I’m bombarding again tomorrow, but I’m toying with the idea of attacking, just to see what happens. The enemy experience is pretty crappy compared to the 16 Division. We’ll see…
Mindanao: Nothing new.
Borneo: Four Nells escorted by 5 Zeros went after shipping in Balikpapan (not intended). They ran into 6x B339Ds. The Zeros shot one fighter down, but a few got past them and shot down 2 Nells. By the way, the ship they went after was a PT boat. Grrrrrr…..[:@]
Java/Sumatra: Off Sumatra, 9 Nells went after a couple of HDMLs at Muntok sinking one with a torpedo. Mike has small TFs of tiny ships all over the place. I’m sending a CL and 2 DDs to take care of the others. I still see 2 ships there.
I have to admit it, the Dutch Air Force, although obsolete is pretty heroic. They launched an attack on the invasion shipping composed of 20x 139WH-3 bombers escorted by 6x B339D and 5x CW-21B Demon fighters. CAP was 7 Claudes and 9 Zeros. For no Japanese loss, 3 enemy fighters and 5 bombers were shot down. The bombers that made it through the fighters hit nothing.
Later, 9 more bombers attempted an attack. The CAP shot down 5 and the remaining bombers missed.
I still see 30 fighters, 42 bombers and 5 auxiliary aircraft at Batavia. My carrier pilots are gaining invaluable experience. One pilot from Kaga shot down 4 planes today and gained 4 experience (78 to 82)!
The Kaga/Ryujo/Zuiho TF (KB2) has positioned itself 1 hex SE of Billiton, in order to support the invasions of Merak, Kalidjati and Oosthaven (described later in more detail). Kaga sent 13 Vals against two AMcs at Merak sinking them both. Then she sent 13 Kates (using bombs, fortunately) against the surviving AMc at Kalidjati sinking that little raft. I still see 2 ships at Oosthaven and 3 at Batavia, along with a couple more ships in Batavia’s port (probably damaged).
Malaya: I still see 4 Buffalos and a Blenheim IF at Georgetown. The Nates that sweep every day can’t do more than damage them. They are gaining some nice experience though, that will serve them well when they eventually get the Oscar Ic. The Sally bombing raid later in the day did manage to kill the Blenehim IF on the ground, damage a Buffalo, kill a Blenheim I and damage 2 more.
One of the bombing raids against Singapore’s airfield managed to destroy a Blenheim I and damage another.
I see only 9 bombers and 6 auxiliary aircraft at Singapore. The bombers sally out daily to go after whatever they can find, but never hit anything. One was lost to flak today.
The 91 Naval Guard attacked and pushed out the 1 Hyberdad Battalion, on the east rail line one hex NE of Malacca. The Brits weren’t destroyed, but they were brutalized and pushed to the east into the jungle.
That leaves 3 enemy stacks on rail lines. There is a unit in Temuloh (east rail line), one of three units of the former Kuantan garrison (22 Indian Brigade, 1 ISF Base Force, 3 H&K LAA Regiment). The other 2 are a hex to the west on the west rail line. The third hex is to the NE of Temuloh (east rail line) and is the remnants of 8 Indian and FMSV Brigades. It’ll be a few days before I can attack any of them. I’m going after the 2 units on the west rail line. IG Division is sitting in Taiping (west rail line) in strat mode, waiting for the line to be cleared.
In the mean time, 33 Division is still crawling from Mersing to Johore Bahru.
The rest of the Singapore invasion force is sitting in Johore Bahru playing pinochle.
Other Places: I invaded Manado today. Practically every time I do that, I take the base and the Dutch rabble retreats to the dot hex next door. I finally realized what I need to do. Take the dot hex first! [X(] I had a spare SNFL company in Babeldaob. I’m sending it to the dot hex by fast transport. They’ll take the hex, then I’ll attack at Manado. It took me how many years to figure that out? [:D]
Burma
Nothing new. The AVG is still in Rangoon. [>:]
China
Not much here today. Just bombing and maneuvering around.
Other Stuff
Phase II begins tomorrow. Here are the main players and when everyone is landing:
Merak:
21 Division – lands 22 Dec 41
Yokosuka 4 SNLF (Merak Garrison) – lands 24 Dec 41
38 Division – lands 25 Dec 41
Oosthaven:
48 Division – lands 24 Dec 41
2 Tank Regiment – lands 24 Dec 41
8 Tank Regiment – lands 26 Dec 41
Kalidjati:
2 Division – lands 25 Dec 41
56 Division – lands 25 Dec 41
16 Army – lands 25 Dec 41
AS landing here as well
Tobali:
III/143 Regiment lands 23 Dec 41
AS and engineers landing here as well
In addition, the landings are finally going in at Miri and Brunei tomorrow. I won't attack at Miri for a couple days because the independent engineer regiment is a few days out. (I forgot to load them.)
Sub War
The IJN Submarine force was determined to get retribution for the loss of Ch 17. They sailed into the port of Kalidjati and torpedoed and sank the AMc Endeh. [:D]
My glorious ASW forces swarmed the seas off Mersing looking for the Dutch subs known to be in the area. They found one and managed nothing but a near miss. [8|]
5 Fleet
Nothing exciting. [>:]
4 Fleet
Tarawa was finally invaded and fell in the shock attack.
SE Fleet
Buna was liberated today.
Two SNLF squads arrived as replacements in the 10 JNAF AF Unit sitting at Kiriwina Island. Now they can liberate the joint. I can see it. 764 guys sitting on this little island with no enemy in sight. 34 Imperial Marines arrive a day later and the commander says, go take this island we’ve been sitting on for the past 24 hours. [:'(]
I finally gave 4 Division permission to land at Pt. Moresby, where they’ve been sitting on ships just looking at it for the past 24 hours. [:D]
SRA
Philippines: I believe the last Allied fighter was shot down yesterday. I’m still sweeping but found nothing today.
The remainder of 16 Division (451 AV) arrived in Manila today, so I combined them into the division. I bombarded to get an idea of the defenses:
41st PA Infantry Division (143 AV)
51st PA Infantry Division (137 AV)
1st PA Infantry Division (131 AV)
South Luzon Force (1 AV)
Manila USAAF Base Force
PAF Aviation /1
I’m bombarding again tomorrow, but I’m toying with the idea of attacking, just to see what happens. The enemy experience is pretty crappy compared to the 16 Division. We’ll see…
Mindanao: Nothing new.
Borneo: Four Nells escorted by 5 Zeros went after shipping in Balikpapan (not intended). They ran into 6x B339Ds. The Zeros shot one fighter down, but a few got past them and shot down 2 Nells. By the way, the ship they went after was a PT boat. Grrrrrr…..[:@]
Java/Sumatra: Off Sumatra, 9 Nells went after a couple of HDMLs at Muntok sinking one with a torpedo. Mike has small TFs of tiny ships all over the place. I’m sending a CL and 2 DDs to take care of the others. I still see 2 ships there.
I have to admit it, the Dutch Air Force, although obsolete is pretty heroic. They launched an attack on the invasion shipping composed of 20x 139WH-3 bombers escorted by 6x B339D and 5x CW-21B Demon fighters. CAP was 7 Claudes and 9 Zeros. For no Japanese loss, 3 enemy fighters and 5 bombers were shot down. The bombers that made it through the fighters hit nothing.
Later, 9 more bombers attempted an attack. The CAP shot down 5 and the remaining bombers missed.
I still see 30 fighters, 42 bombers and 5 auxiliary aircraft at Batavia. My carrier pilots are gaining invaluable experience. One pilot from Kaga shot down 4 planes today and gained 4 experience (78 to 82)!
The Kaga/Ryujo/Zuiho TF (KB2) has positioned itself 1 hex SE of Billiton, in order to support the invasions of Merak, Kalidjati and Oosthaven (described later in more detail). Kaga sent 13 Vals against two AMcs at Merak sinking them both. Then she sent 13 Kates (using bombs, fortunately) against the surviving AMc at Kalidjati sinking that little raft. I still see 2 ships at Oosthaven and 3 at Batavia, along with a couple more ships in Batavia’s port (probably damaged).
Malaya: I still see 4 Buffalos and a Blenheim IF at Georgetown. The Nates that sweep every day can’t do more than damage them. They are gaining some nice experience though, that will serve them well when they eventually get the Oscar Ic. The Sally bombing raid later in the day did manage to kill the Blenehim IF on the ground, damage a Buffalo, kill a Blenheim I and damage 2 more.
One of the bombing raids against Singapore’s airfield managed to destroy a Blenheim I and damage another.
I see only 9 bombers and 6 auxiliary aircraft at Singapore. The bombers sally out daily to go after whatever they can find, but never hit anything. One was lost to flak today.
The 91 Naval Guard attacked and pushed out the 1 Hyberdad Battalion, on the east rail line one hex NE of Malacca. The Brits weren’t destroyed, but they were brutalized and pushed to the east into the jungle.
That leaves 3 enemy stacks on rail lines. There is a unit in Temuloh (east rail line), one of three units of the former Kuantan garrison (22 Indian Brigade, 1 ISF Base Force, 3 H&K LAA Regiment). The other 2 are a hex to the west on the west rail line. The third hex is to the NE of Temuloh (east rail line) and is the remnants of 8 Indian and FMSV Brigades. It’ll be a few days before I can attack any of them. I’m going after the 2 units on the west rail line. IG Division is sitting in Taiping (west rail line) in strat mode, waiting for the line to be cleared.
In the mean time, 33 Division is still crawling from Mersing to Johore Bahru.
The rest of the Singapore invasion force is sitting in Johore Bahru playing pinochle.
Other Places: I invaded Manado today. Practically every time I do that, I take the base and the Dutch rabble retreats to the dot hex next door. I finally realized what I need to do. Take the dot hex first! [X(] I had a spare SNFL company in Babeldaob. I’m sending it to the dot hex by fast transport. They’ll take the hex, then I’ll attack at Manado. It took me how many years to figure that out? [:D]
Burma
Nothing new. The AVG is still in Rangoon. [>:]
China
Not much here today. Just bombing and maneuvering around.
Other Stuff
Phase II begins tomorrow.
Here are the main players and when everyone is landing:Merak:
21 Division – lands 22 Dec 41
Yokosuka 4 SNLF (Merak Garrison) – lands 24 Dec 41
38 Division – lands 25 Dec 41
Oosthaven:
48 Division – lands 24 Dec 41
2 Tank Regiment – lands 24 Dec 41
8 Tank Regiment – lands 26 Dec 41
Kalidjati:
2 Division – lands 25 Dec 41
56 Division – lands 25 Dec 41
16 Army – lands 25 Dec 41
AS landing here as well
Tobali:
III/143 Regiment lands 23 Dec 41
AS and engineers landing here as well
In addition, the landings are finally going in at Miri and Brunei tomorrow. I won't attack at Miri for a couple days because the independent engineer regiment is a few days out. (I forgot to load them.)
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Here's a shot of Malaya. It's rather cluttered, but that's because of Mike's cats I'm trying to herd.
The Singapore assault force will be about 2k AV. I estimate his max possible AV is 560. That's assuming he hasn't added replacement squads and no combat squads are disabled. I suspect the first is accurate, and that there are disabled combat squads.
The Singapore assault force will be about 2k AV. I estimate his max possible AV is 560. That's assuming he hasn't added replacement squads and no combat squads are disabled. I suspect the first is accurate, and that there are disabled combat squads.
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RE: Logistics in the Pacific - USSAmerica (A), Mike (J)
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Question for the group: My intent is to have 4 divisions assault Singapore (along with arty and engineers). Two of the divisions are ready and sitting in Johore Bahru. If I crossed the river with them now, would there be another shock attack when the other divisions later crossed the river into Singapore?
this from Alfred:
The initial crossing of a river into an enemy controlled hex will initiate a shock attack through that hex side. Additional crossings into that hex through another hex side will also initiate another shock attack.
To avoid follow up troops shock attacking across a hex side already passed through at least 1/3 of the unadjusted AV value of the defender must have crossed that particular hex side by the attacker during the initial assault. So, if the defender has an unadjusted AV of 450, the attacker must use at least 150 AV in the initial crossing for follow up troops to cross freely across the same hex side. Anything less than 150 AV would require further shock attacks until the 1/3 rule is met. If a different hex side is used, all bets are off and the attacker must shock attack and again meet the 1/3 rule for successive forces to cross freely.
I just checked into river-crossings into Singapore in my current game.
It's clear that the 1/3 AV comparison is applied at the end of the shock attack. In my game the Allies crossed with about 2/3 of the AV of Japan, but the combat dropped the Allies down to less than 1/3 AV. The following day additional Allied units crossed and also conducted a shock attack.
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I just checked into river-crossings into Singapore in my current game.
It's clear that the 1/3 AV comparison is applied at the end of the shock attack. In my game the Allies crossed with about 2/3 of the AV of Japan, but the combat dropped the Allies down to less than 1/3 AV. The following day additional Allied units crossed and also conducted a shock attack.
Ahh, that's very good to know. I've decided to wait until I have my complete assault force before crossing over into Singapore. It'll be ~2000 AV vs. some 4-500 raw Allied AV.
My new dilemma is whether to have the artillery cross with the main force or have them arrive a day or two later. Any idea if it'll make a difference? It might be better to have them all together so they fire in the shock attack.
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I have a little time to kill waiting for the next turn. I'm a minimalist when it comes to the Japanese economy, as most of you know. I learned that during my first PBEM of the old WitP many years ago when I had over 1000 A6M2s sitting in the pool rusting after I had upgraded my combat units to better models. That's a lot of supply and HI wasted. The air war for the Japanese (in my opinion) is all about fighters (and their pilots of course, but that is a different conversation [;)]).
I am building my A6M2 and Ki-43-Ic to 90 each. No more. Yeah, I know, it'll take forever to upgrade the air units. I usually mention this every game and get comments about how low that number is. It should be 180, 210, 240 an so on. I expect that after this as well. I'm used to it. [:D]
I decided to look at all of the fighter units I get through 1942 (including starting units, of course). There aren't that many reinforcements. The IJAAF gets 6, and they all begin restricted. The IJNAF gets 7. Three come on carriers, 2 are restricted and 2 are unrestricted.
All restricted units will train pilots and will use Nates and Claudes, until the pools are exhausted (which will take awhile). Then, if necessary, they'll progress through the Ki-43-Ia, Ib and Ic for the IJAAF and the A6M2 for the IJNAF.
Right now, the combat units (sentai and chutai) of the IJAAF (3 & 5 Air Divisions) total 12 units, only 4 of which aren't Nates (1 Ki-43-Ia, 2x Ib & one Ki-44). There are about 240 Nates (including spares) that need to be replaced with the Ki-43-Ic, along with 68 of the Ia and Ib models to be replaced, so say 310 Ki-43-Ic, not including combat losses as they will occur after introduction.
Right now, the Oscar Ic factories are 47(13) and 12(18). So, they'll be repaired at the end of the year. I have 33 in the pool, so I'll upgrade the first sentai within a week or so. I anticipate all of the Nates in 3 & 5 Air Divisions will be replaced with Oscars by April 1942. Then, I'll work on the inferior Oscar models and finally the Chinese Nates. Maybe. I'm not sure when the 3 Oscar R&D factories will repair, but I hope to get the Ki-43-IIa by August/September 1942. If that's the case (I'll know in plenty of time) then I'll use up my pool of the Ic and then shift them to the China Air Force when the IIa starts to replace them on the front lines. China will almost always be a model or so behind the front line units. To sum it up, I don’t need any additional Nates to fill out the training sentai and won’t waste HI building any. My pool is empty, but it’ll get planes as I upgrade sentai to the Oscar Ic.
As an aside, I probably will build a few Tojo IIa models. Then I’ll coincide the IIb & IIc to become operational the same month. Or, I may just push through to the IIc model as the R&D factories repair. I keep going back and forth. We’ll see. I suspect it’ll depend on how the air war in Burma goes. I’ll probably flip flop a dozen times between now and when I need to make that decision. At any rate, that’s a long way away.
On to the Zero dilemma, which is basically the same as the IJAAF dilemma above. I am very cautious with the use of my IJNAF, especially the fighters. I try not to involve them in any sort of meat grinder operations to wear down the enemy air force. That’s what the IJAAF is for. That does not apply to the start of the war. The IJAAF is composed primarily of Nates, which, in my opinion, suck. The good pilots make up for that in some respect, but the planes still suck.
I am limiting my A6M2 production to 90. The factories are currently at 60(0) and 12(18). So, I’ll get 3 a day consistently by Jan 42. I upgraded Yamada Det S-2 (9 + 2 spares) and Zuiho-1 (21 + 3 spares) to Zero so far, and have 4 in the pool. Fortunately, I don’t need to upgrade any front line land-based units. And, when the Yamada Dets go poof, we’ll get their 29 Zeros back (minus losses, of course). In addition to loss replacement, the big suck on the Zero pool will be to increase the size on most of the carrier fighter complements. My spreadsheet tells me I’ll need 153 Zeros to bring the current carriers up to where I want them. I’ll need an additional 48 for Shoho (upgrade) and Junyo and Hiyo (increase size). I should be able up increase the latter two by 12 each when they show up in May and July 42, but Shoho needs 24 for her upgrade in 37 days. That may be an issue. Maybe not. I need only 15 to get all the 23 Air Flotilla fighter units up to full strength in spares. There will be losses though. It’ll be interesting.
Basically, I try to keep a modest pool of each model. When I'm within a certain number of months of getting the next model, I shut off production and use up the pool until the next model begins producing. Then I replenish the pool with the old models as I upgrade units. It usually works pretty well. I need to keep track of losses as I go though to have an idea of what to keep in the pool.
This is the kind of stuff that goes through my mind when I’m waiting for a turn…
I am building my A6M2 and Ki-43-Ic to 90 each. No more. Yeah, I know, it'll take forever to upgrade the air units. I usually mention this every game and get comments about how low that number is. It should be 180, 210, 240 an so on. I expect that after this as well. I'm used to it. [:D]
I decided to look at all of the fighter units I get through 1942 (including starting units, of course). There aren't that many reinforcements. The IJAAF gets 6, and they all begin restricted. The IJNAF gets 7. Three come on carriers, 2 are restricted and 2 are unrestricted.
All restricted units will train pilots and will use Nates and Claudes, until the pools are exhausted (which will take awhile). Then, if necessary, they'll progress through the Ki-43-Ia, Ib and Ic for the IJAAF and the A6M2 for the IJNAF.
Right now, the combat units (sentai and chutai) of the IJAAF (3 & 5 Air Divisions) total 12 units, only 4 of which aren't Nates (1 Ki-43-Ia, 2x Ib & one Ki-44). There are about 240 Nates (including spares) that need to be replaced with the Ki-43-Ic, along with 68 of the Ia and Ib models to be replaced, so say 310 Ki-43-Ic, not including combat losses as they will occur after introduction.
Right now, the Oscar Ic factories are 47(13) and 12(18). So, they'll be repaired at the end of the year. I have 33 in the pool, so I'll upgrade the first sentai within a week or so. I anticipate all of the Nates in 3 & 5 Air Divisions will be replaced with Oscars by April 1942. Then, I'll work on the inferior Oscar models and finally the Chinese Nates. Maybe. I'm not sure when the 3 Oscar R&D factories will repair, but I hope to get the Ki-43-IIa by August/September 1942. If that's the case (I'll know in plenty of time) then I'll use up my pool of the Ic and then shift them to the China Air Force when the IIa starts to replace them on the front lines. China will almost always be a model or so behind the front line units. To sum it up, I don’t need any additional Nates to fill out the training sentai and won’t waste HI building any. My pool is empty, but it’ll get planes as I upgrade sentai to the Oscar Ic.
As an aside, I probably will build a few Tojo IIa models. Then I’ll coincide the IIb & IIc to become operational the same month. Or, I may just push through to the IIc model as the R&D factories repair. I keep going back and forth. We’ll see. I suspect it’ll depend on how the air war in Burma goes. I’ll probably flip flop a dozen times between now and when I need to make that decision. At any rate, that’s a long way away.
On to the Zero dilemma, which is basically the same as the IJAAF dilemma above. I am very cautious with the use of my IJNAF, especially the fighters. I try not to involve them in any sort of meat grinder operations to wear down the enemy air force. That’s what the IJAAF is for. That does not apply to the start of the war. The IJAAF is composed primarily of Nates, which, in my opinion, suck. The good pilots make up for that in some respect, but the planes still suck.
I am limiting my A6M2 production to 90. The factories are currently at 60(0) and 12(18). So, I’ll get 3 a day consistently by Jan 42. I upgraded Yamada Det S-2 (9 + 2 spares) and Zuiho-1 (21 + 3 spares) to Zero so far, and have 4 in the pool. Fortunately, I don’t need to upgrade any front line land-based units. And, when the Yamada Dets go poof, we’ll get their 29 Zeros back (minus losses, of course). In addition to loss replacement, the big suck on the Zero pool will be to increase the size on most of the carrier fighter complements. My spreadsheet tells me I’ll need 153 Zeros to bring the current carriers up to where I want them. I’ll need an additional 48 for Shoho (upgrade) and Junyo and Hiyo (increase size). I should be able up increase the latter two by 12 each when they show up in May and July 42, but Shoho needs 24 for her upgrade in 37 days. That may be an issue. Maybe not. I need only 15 to get all the 23 Air Flotilla fighter units up to full strength in spares. There will be losses though. It’ll be interesting.
Basically, I try to keep a modest pool of each model. When I'm within a certain number of months of getting the next model, I shut off production and use up the pool until the next model begins producing. Then I replenish the pool with the old models as I upgrade units. It usually works pretty well. I need to keep track of losses as I go though to have an idea of what to keep in the pool.
This is the kind of stuff that goes through my mind when I’m waiting for a turn…
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