Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
I haven't worked that late into the war to have those Brit CAs. The ones at the beginning are valued because they have crew experience and good captains can be put on them.
I think the late war Brit crew experience should also be quite good.
British AA was never as heavy as comparable US vessels, they just did not design as much deck space for gun emplacements and could not get enough 40mm Bofors to replace the two- pounder pom-pom which was only moderately effective. I think the AA fire control was less effective too.
I think the late war Brit crew experience should also be quite good.
British AA was never as heavy as comparable US vessels, they just did not design as much deck space for gun emplacements and could not get enough 40mm Bofors to replace the two- pounder pom-pom which was only moderately effective. I think the AA fire control was less effective too.
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Yep, the British cruisers are pretty darn pathetic...they would make great shadowing ships...but that isn't in the game.BBfanboy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 2:51 pm I haven't worked that late into the war to have those Brit CAs. The ones at the beginning are valued because they have crew experience and good captains can be put on them.
I think the late war Brit crew experience should also be quite good.
British AA was never as heavy as comparable US vessels, they just did not design as much deck space for gun emplacements and could not get enough 40mm Bofors to replace the two- pounder pom-pom which was only moderately effective. I think the AA fire control was less effective too.
Don't know what a London S and London R models are as opposed to the regular London class...I don't have a London R show I didn't show it in the graphic above.
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Going to start targeting Japanese supplies in the huge pocket I am forming in Thailand and Burma. First step is hitting runways left right and center. Rather than large raids we are doing small dispersed raids...heavy bombers are devastating against unprotected runways/ports so we shall see what I get this day.
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Sept 13, 1943
Our bombing of airbases in Thailand seems to go well...sinking sounds heard probably disbanded ships at Cam Ranh Bay...
Our subs bring down a cripple trying to flee...sinking sounds heard
Defend once again at Vinh...1-1 attack; 50th Para in reserve mode, 99th Indian Bde in adjacent hex resting: NZ tankers racing here in their Valentines, the 1st Chinese being flown in.
Ground combat at Vinh (65,59)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 28843 troops, 263 guns, 96 vehicles, Assault Value = 763
Defending force 14768 troops, 146 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 351
Japanese adjusted assault: 340
Allied adjusted defense: 255
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
999 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 61 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
418 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 48 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 27 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Assaulting units:
17th Division
34th Division
32nd Division
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Defending units:
50th Indian Para Brigade
111th LRP Brigade
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
7th New Chinese Corps
8th New Chinese Corps
1st New Chinese Corps /1
Sikh Construction Battalion
3rd USN Naval Const Rgt /1
118th RAF Base Force /1
24th Indian Mtn Gun Rgt /1
Our bombing of airbases in Thailand seems to go well...sinking sounds heard probably disbanded ships at Cam Ranh Bay...
Our subs bring down a cripple trying to flee...sinking sounds heard
Defend once again at Vinh...1-1 attack; 50th Para in reserve mode, 99th Indian Bde in adjacent hex resting: NZ tankers racing here in their Valentines, the 1st Chinese being flown in.
Ground combat at Vinh (65,59)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 28843 troops, 263 guns, 96 vehicles, Assault Value = 763
Defending force 14768 troops, 146 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 351
Japanese adjusted assault: 340
Allied adjusted defense: 255
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
999 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 61 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
418 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 48 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 27 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Assaulting units:
17th Division
34th Division
32nd Division
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Defending units:
50th Indian Para Brigade
111th LRP Brigade
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
7th New Chinese Corps
8th New Chinese Corps
1st New Chinese Corps /1
Sikh Construction Battalion
3rd USN Naval Const Rgt /1
118th RAF Base Force /1
24th Indian Mtn Gun Rgt /1
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
That was a 5k troop capacity liner...
Maximum effort on Saigon today and then it will be for follow up troops to take.

Maximum effort on Saigon today and then it will be for follow up troops to take.
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
I like to build the repair shipyard at Saigon to level 15 so it can repair any IJN cruiser or any other ship that can make it up the river.
You are doing well. I hope that the armor veers correctly to the north.
You are doing well. I hope that the armor veers correctly to the north.
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Is he sending LRCAP over Vinh to intercept your transports?
Regarding the RN CAs, I tend to use them in the Bay of Bengal in SAGs and bombardment TFs for a while against the computer IJN as there's plenty of surface fighting there. The 8-in. ones seem to do pretty well in surface fights, better than USN CAs, while the 7.5-in. ones seem to easily get sunk.
Late war, any surviving 7.5-inchers get used for odds and sods TFs. I'll use the 8-in. CAs in SAGs, bombardment TFs or escorting RN CVs. Since Kingfisher production disappears at some point, you may run into trouble keeping floatplanes on your USN vessels as well. Of course, I don't think your game will last long enough to have that problem.
Cheers,
CB
Regarding the RN CAs, I tend to use them in the Bay of Bengal in SAGs and bombardment TFs for a while against the computer IJN as there's plenty of surface fighting there. The 8-in. ones seem to do pretty well in surface fights, better than USN CAs, while the 7.5-in. ones seem to easily get sunk.
Late war, any surviving 7.5-inchers get used for odds and sods TFs. I'll use the 8-in. CAs in SAGs, bombardment TFs or escorting RN CVs. Since Kingfisher production disappears at some point, you may run into trouble keeping floatplanes on your USN vessels as well. Of course, I don't think your game will last long enough to have that problem.
Cheers,
CB
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
The British CAs with 7.5" guns (Frobisher, Hawkins & another?) could be embedded in Amphib TFs for suppression fire against enemy positions. They were WWI designs, lacking in modern layout and compartmentation.
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
No, Vinh is a a safe run. As is Chungking. Those long range transport interceptions are a great use of old Zeroes or Oscars and even Dinah fighters.CaptBeefheart wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:30 am Is he sending LRCAP over Vinh to intercept your transports?
Regarding the RN CAs, I tend to use them in the Bay of Bengal in SAGs and bombardment TFs for a while against the computer IJN as there's plenty of surface fighting there. The 8-in. ones seem to do pretty well in surface fights, better than USN CAs, while the 7.5-in. ones seem to easily get sunk.
Late war, any surviving 7.5-inchers get used for odds and sods TFs. I'll use the 8-in. CAs in SAGs, bombardment TFs or escorting RN CVs. Since Kingfisher production disappears at some point, you may run into trouble keeping floatplanes on your USN vessels as well. Of course, I don't think your game will last long enough to have that problem.
Cheers,
CB
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Not sure how many more opposed amphibious invasions I will be doing.
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Attacking Saigon today....figure there is at least a 20% chance of getting a 2-1 and taking the base especially if all the bombers fly.
Pretty sure all our armor will leave for Vinh after today no matter what the outcome is.
Pretty sure all our armor will leave for Vinh after today no matter what the outcome is.
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
September 14th, 1943
Too much targeting of the CD gun units .... I doubt we can take the base today barring a great die roll.
Morning Air attack on Cape St.Jaques Fortress, at 60,71 (Saigon)
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 4
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 26
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 5
Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 4
P-38H Lightning x 5
P-40K Warhawk x 14
F6F-3 Hellcat x 197
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 25
SBD-5 Dauntless x 25
TBF-1 Avenger x 105
Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 12 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 3 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 15 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
182 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Too much targeting of the CD gun units .... I doubt we can take the base today barring a great die roll.
Morning Air attack on Cape St.Jaques Fortress, at 60,71 (Saigon)
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 4
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 26
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 5
Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 4
P-38H Lightning x 5
P-40K Warhawk x 14
F6F-3 Hellcat x 197
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 25
SBD-5 Dauntless x 25
TBF-1 Avenger x 105
Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 12 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 3 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 15 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
182 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
A couple of Japanese attacks beaten off...
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Two raids on Bangkok scoring a total of 34 reported industry hits...
Afternoon Air attack on Bangkok , at 56,62
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes
Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 6
B-17E Fortress x 4
B-17F Fortress x 3
B-24D Liberator x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 1
No Allied losses
Heavy Industry hits 29
Afternoon Air attack on Bangkok , at 56,62
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes
Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 6
B-17E Fortress x 4
B-17F Fortress x 3
B-24D Liberator x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 1
No Allied losses
Heavy Industry hits 29
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Japan has supplies at Saigon to rebuild forts to 2...not a real good result on the attack. We will keep plugging away, but most if not all the armor will head for Pakse and Vinh.
Ground combat at Saigon (60,71)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 38825 troops, 515 guns, 823 vehicles, Assault Value = 1366
Defending force 23974 troops, 215 guns, 155 vehicles, Assault Value = 610
Allied adjusted assault: 744
Japanese adjusted defense: 825
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
1273 casualties reported
Squads: 23 destroyed, 116 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 68 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 19 (1 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Vehicles lost 71 (46 destroyed, 25 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
784 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 66 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Vehicles lost 95 (5 destroyed, 90 disabled)
Ground combat at Saigon (60,71)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 38825 troops, 515 guns, 823 vehicles, Assault Value = 1366
Defending force 23974 troops, 215 guns, 155 vehicles, Assault Value = 610
Allied adjusted assault: 744
Japanese adjusted defense: 825
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
1273 casualties reported
Squads: 23 destroyed, 116 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 68 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 19 (1 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Vehicles lost 71 (46 destroyed, 25 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
784 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 66 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Vehicles lost 95 (5 destroyed, 90 disabled)
Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
Has any AFB ever gotten a good result with the Hurricane IId? I have a lone IJA tank regiment within 2 hexes of a functioning runway will try them on tanks and vehicles shortly. I think they were on ground attack 1k, perhaps they need to be set to 100'?
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
One reason I like your AARs is you delve into details I wouldn't bother with. You might have to fly those 40mm Hurris at 100 feet. Let us know how it goes.
Cheers,
CB
Cheers,
CB
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Re: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A))
I checked, and the Hurricane IId were at 1000 feet, and to reliably strafe I am pretty sure they need to be set to 100'.