IJ production mistakes

bigred · Post by **bigred** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:42 pm

Looks like the fuel is moving north...but my resources flowed to Singers...may be because the southern army plus alot of shipping is located at singers for future amphib operations...
Port Arthur is empty because I have been loading it out.

So fuel did move..a mixed bag of results.

Tracker reports later...

inqistor · Post by **inqistor** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:45 am

You had 999 refineries turned off in post #385. And it seems, that Japan is short 5000 fuel per day(post #414. 9405 produced/against 14990 need), at the Scenario beginning, so there is not enough refineries in Japan to keep running all industry. You have to transport fuel. At least 5585 per day, only for running industry(well, part of it is in Manchuria/China/Formosa), not including fleet.

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bigred · Post by **bigred** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:29 am

I pulled up tracker to see the effect of the PA road. Inquisitor, note how Honshu dropes fuel by 9000 on turn 291.

bigred · Post by **bigred** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:31 am

manchuko:

bigred · Post by **bigred** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:32 am

central china-shanghai:
note how the fuel increases about every 5 days...

bigred · Post by **bigred** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:34 am

Indochina: note agains the 5 day interval between fuel increases.
Also seems alot of resources are hanging around this area.

bigred · Post by **bigred** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:35 am

Mayla...resources are starting to overwhelm me...

Sun Tempest · Post by **Sun Tempest** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:02 pm

Thank you bigred

I think that it proves quite certainly that Singapore-Port Arthur road is not a myth, although it seems that it is quite tricky, cause it sends fuel in one direction (north) and resources in the opposite (south).[&:]

bigred · Post by **bigred** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:23 am

Turn 293 w/ all HI turned back on at honshu... convoy tfs from south set to refuel in SRA ay mo\inimal settings.

I do suspect once I move some troop transports north puttin more ships in PA will help the resource situation move north.

bigred · Post by **bigred** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:53 am

ORIGINAL: bigred

Turn 293 w/ all HI turned back on at honshu... convoy tfs from south set to refuel in SRA w/ minimal settings.

I do suspect once I move some troop transports north putting more ships in PA will help the resource situation move north.

I read somewhere the location of the Southern Army has an effect of resource flow. So w/ Southern Army HQ located at Singers I will test HQ location to see effect on resource flow. From a pure tactical location I like singers for obvious reasons.

bigred · Post by **bigred** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:53 am

The R/D on a6m5 is one of the events in jap production I have made arrangements ..with 3 factories at 30 each and the a6m5 due in 3 turns I plan to change the R/D to a6m8. I will let the 100 plane faci;ity upgrade produce the a5.

Zeta16 · Post by **Zeta16** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:02 am

I have played this game for years, how to get plans to show up so early, and how to change a rd factory to another without taking a hit?

bigred · Post by **bigred** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:24 am

ORIGINAL: Zeta16

I have played this game for years, how to get plans to show up so early, and how to change a rd factory to another without taking a hit?

1. Find a small factory (1 or 2 value) R/D somewthing useless.
2. switch it to the a6m2 and wait for the conversion is complete(cost 1000 supply per point)
3. Then increase the small a6m2 factory to 30(at a cost of 100 supply per point).
4. Then switch the factory from production of the a6m2 t R/D of the next plane in the tree--a6m5, remember to turn of production.
5. Wait till the research is at max(one or 2 turns before the R/D plants start top produce, then switch the R/D factory to the next plane(a6m5b) in the RA70 senario.
6. With this method I figure to have the m8 producing by 6/43. Would have been earlier but I am still learning..
Thanks to Damian. So My favorite quote from Damian.

quote:

ORIGINAL: bigred

I wonder who had the mind to create this frame/engine program?

ORIGINAL: Damian
Tracker engine screen (actually most of the production stuff ) - I created it ... Do you not like it ?

Of course I like it. I am amazed at the complexity.

bigred · Post by **bigred** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:41 am

ORIGINAL: Historiker

ORIGINAL: n01487477

ORIGINAL: Historiker

how far does it work? just one ahead, or can you walk through the upgrade path?
Walk through ... makes R&D for distant models more accessible(read easier to get early),as long as they're along the upgrade path and the initial factories are fully repaired.

If stock (not this game Big Red is playing);
I'd R&D A6M3's until repaired then switch these up to A6M5b/c's (not sure the M8 is better) and probably try to get these a year or more early. Similar with the later Oscars and a few other models that come to mind.

Anyway, anything that I want to R&D that is along the upgrade path, I wouldn't start with the plane factory I want to R&D; I'd build the model that is nearest to the current game date (and is maybe already available), then upgrade these fully repaired factories to fully repaired R&D status...

Obviously with start-up models, you still need to R&D that first model before you can continue.
Nice!

As this will only have its full effect in late 43 to mid 44, it shouldn't matter that much if the opponent agrees. In Mid 44, the allies should still be superior even if there are 1945 planes on Jap side.

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:45 am

reminds me why I´ve got a hr in every PBEM about keeping R&D somewhat realistic

bigred · Post by **bigred** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:22 pm

Looks like Cam Rhan Bay and PA are the big winners from the chian road being open...
Shangha and Fusan have minimal increases.

bigred · Post by **bigred** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:24 pm

port Arthur

bigred · Post by **bigred** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:25 pm

Shanghai: after a complete pulldown of oil shanghai will not refill...

bigred · Post by **bigred** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:30 pm

ORIGINAL: castor troy

reminds me why I´ve got a hr in every PBEM about keeping R&D somewhat realistic

I respect your mild put down of Increased IJ efficencies. I have not seen an end game of AE or WitP but I understand the japs will get crushed, so what is the harm? As I play japan hope springs eternal w/ the new entry of upgraded planes early...and as I understand the future of the IJ in AE I suspect hope is all I will have.

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:32 pm

ORIGINAL: bigred

ORIGINAL: castor troy

reminds me why I´ve got a hr in every PBEM about keeping R&D somewhat realistic
I respect your mild put down of Increased IJ efficencies. I have not seen an end game of AE or WitP but I understand the japs will get crushed, so what is the harm? As I play japan hope springs eternal w/ the new entry of upgraded planes early...and as I understand the future of the IJ in AE I suspect hope is all I will have.

if you are able to produce the A6M8 in 6/43 (two years early?) then I guess you would also be able to produce things like the Shinden sometime in mid 43 and this would come down to never get crushed as the Japanese because if you field unlimited high end fighters in 43 that face historical Allied fighters (and their historical replacement rates) then you win high time as the Japanese, no matter what the Allied is doing as a P-40K won´t be a match for a Shinden or even better IJ stuff.

Not going any deeper into this stuff as it is just too far away of anything a sane PBEM is going to be, that´s just something that ends early IMO and all I can say is to each his own.

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