Error in MWIF explanation of role of ENG in battle?

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Error in MWIF explanation of role of ENG in battle?

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This is what MWIF says. Note that engineers are granted a +1 when attacking a city

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RE: Error in MWIF explanation of role of ENG in battle?

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Here is an extract of the same RAW rules that MWIF offers:
Combat Engineers
Face-up ENG are not halved or thirded when attacking or overrunning across a river, canal or fort hexside. They also provide this benefit to as many land units they are stacked with as the ENG unit’s combat value. ENG attacking across both a river and a fort hexside, ignore only the fort hexside. The defender still has all other combat benefits if behind a fort hexside.

Engineers provide +1 to the land combat die roll (see 11.16.5) when attacking a 2 or 3 factory stack city. Defending engineers subtract 1 from the die roll when defending a 2 or 3 factory stack city. These benefits are in addition to the other benefits and can be used simultaneously (e.g. gaining both benefits when attacking across a river into a 2 factory city).

If an ENG provides any benefits in an attack, it always suffers the first loss (even before white print units attacking in winter).
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RE: Error in MWIF explanation of role of ENG in battle?

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Both are correct. This because one is the regular rule, and the other is with the 2d10 option that when in play replaces the regular rule.

+1 per ENG factor when attacking (or -1 when defending) a city is only in play with the 2d10.

The +1 to the land combat die roll when attacking a 2 or 3 factory stack city is the rule for playing with the 1d10.
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RE: Error in MWIF explanation of role of ENG in battle?

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Wow thanks, I had never played with 1d10 in many years of WIF, I wouldnt have imagined.

Edit: Although those modifiers are in the 2d10 table explanations, as can be seen above.
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Re: Error in MWIF explanation of role of ENG in battle?

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I missed the edit. I am not sure I understand what the issue is there. :?: :cry: :?:
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Re: Error in MWIF explanation of role of ENG in battle?

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Nothing really, I hadnt realized till now, but I understood your previous post's two last phrases wrong.

I thought you had written:

"+1 per ENG factor when attacking (or -1 when defending) a city is only in play with the 1d10."
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Re: Error in MWIF explanation of role of ENG in battle?

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Thank you. I just wanted to make sure that there was no remaining misunderstanding between us here. :)
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Re: Error in MWIF explanation of role of ENG in battle?

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Ok, thanks
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