Start with Solitaire or with an inexperienced human opponent?

[crazydave1066]

Hello! I have been studying up on the rules now long enough to feel comfortable starting a game. I have a question for experienced players: do you think it's best when starting out to play solitaire or to play against an inexperienced human opponent? I can see either being helpful. In solitaire, you can learn from you're own mistakes. With another opponent, I feel like you can get a better handle on the rules, as you can discuss the rules and figure them out together. Which is better to start with?

[Majorball68]

ORIGINAL: crazydave1066

Hello! I have been studying up on the rules now long enough to feel comfortable starting a game. I have a question for experienced players: do you think it's best when starting out to play solitaire or to play against an inexperienced human opponent? I can see either being helpful. In solitaire, you can learn from you're own mistakes. With another opponent, I feel like you can get a better handle on the rules, as you can discuss the rules and figure them out together. Which is better to start with?

Start with solitaire to become familiar with the lay out, performing actions and the sequence of play. The video training modules are very good also. Ask questions on the forum if you run into any issues.

[Courtenay]

I would say, given that choice, that the inexperienced human opponent is better. You will make rules mistakes. Your opponent will make rules mistakes. (Everyone makes rules mistakes. See my sig.) The important thing is that some of your mistakes will be different from your opponent's and vice versa, so between the two of you, you will get a better feeling for the rules. This is something that happens much slower playing solitaire. If you do play solitaire, making an AAR is very helpful, because we have people who will tell you if they see a rules mistake.

[crazydave1066]

Thanks for the replies! I have been leaning more towards a human opponent the first time, since I personally think it would be more fun to learn WITH someone. But I will eventually do a solitaire game and who knows, I might even make an AAR!

[Joseignacio]

I would vote for solitaire unless you bore to death in the process.

I learnt with humans and they always interprete the rules their (our) way, and introduce their bias and incorrections, that are later difficult to correct.

Learning with MWIF will let you understand the basics and then you have a common base to debate the rest of the rules while you keep learning.

[Courtenay]

My understanding is that he is going to use MWiF no matter what; the question is whether he should play against a human or against a machine. MWiF will enforce certain rules (Supply!), but other rules allow you to do things, and if you don't realize it, you never will playing solitaire. (An example is that one can pick up a unit and transport it during the return to base phase. If you don't know this, you won't figure it out playing solitaire. If your opponent does this to you, you will remember it.)

[Joseignacio]

Yes, but you can learn rules wrong playing with a human and then you need to re-learn them when playing MWIF (or other humans), it happened to me and it was not fun.

Athough what you say is true as well.

[HQenjoy]

Solitaire Barbarossa BUG stuck at first combat resolution. Can't be resolve and no skip available. I didn't play since the first year of the launch. I also buy a new licence for the new computer (don't want to transfer and keep contributing, HAHA!) By the way, it show version 3.0.2 after update. So i decide to restart with the base and the year of the launch i play few turns before big bugs so i'm not a rookie. I start a 2nd new game and place the units quickly, skip all phases to land german moves, 2-3 land moves and declare 1 combat (48,47), allow 1 ground strike and rebase and then go to combat resolution and grey button to skip, no combat to choose? (so easy and quick to test) first game 5 combats and no choice which one first either? So thank you in advance for your answer. Just want to know if normal and i'm just supposed to take hot seat. If wrong topic, can tell me also. I know the forum is big and few duplicate ones.

[paulderynck]

It could be the combat resolution dialog, or the dialog showing the list of combats to be resolved, is hidden behind another form or the map. Or it could be a bug that has been fixed since the version you are using sounds like the original one, based on what you said. If so, you really ought to upgrade to the most current public beta version.

[HQenjoy]

Yes resolve. Hidden window (probably because multiple screens), BUT I try to find it yesterday like few years ago (sounds bell to me) and can't have it. My right screen was the main and the "Land combat selection & resolution" window i think always appear on the right (and with 1920X1080) it's out of the screen. So i put the left one to main screen and got the window combat on the right. I didn't change resolution but maybe smaller resolution, a part of the window have a chance to appear if i remember. Better put main on the left and change layout.
Thanks Paul

[Centuur]

To be on the save side: in the past the command form needed to be on the same monitor as the detailed map, and not in a corner of the screen. I don't know if this still applies for multi monitor use, because I only have one monitor.