Still no cancel button on menus!

[LarryP]

ORIGINAL: Venator

To be honest Larry if you had posted your complaint in a less aggressive fashion I'd have thought it fair enough. It is possible to accidently swap and it is a wee bit irritating to have no cancel option. As I said though, your initial comment was a bit over the top. The menus seem okay to me otherwise though and losing a few influence points isn't the end of the world for me - just a tad annoying.

Less aggressive?! You must be new to newsgroups if you think my first post above is aggressive. [X(] I admit that it was not as passive as my first ones a year ago but aggressive? No.

[Venator]

Well I don't think that calling a game 'garbage' because there is one mildly irritating feature in an otherwise decent game is exactly mild mannered. But that's just me. And you did recant. So no hard feelings on my part.

[LarryP]

ORIGINAL: Venator

Well I don't think that calling a game 'garbage' because there is one mildly irritating feature in an otherwise decent game is exactly mild mannered. But that's just me. And you did recant. So no hard feelings on my part.

Why would there be any hard feelings on your part anyway? I did not offend you. Some people act like their mother was trash talked when someone finds fault with a game they play. I couldn't care less how bad you find fault with games I play. It won't offend me.

How is calling a computer game "garbage" make a person NOT mild mannered?!

To me when menus won't let you back out of any decisions you made inside of them, the game is a pain. I really regret ever mentioning this because it has gone from the menu situation to a personal one.

[Ike99]

EDIT: I originally said above that this game is garbage, and I am sorry for saying this, I was mad at the time and should have said that "this game is unplayable for me."

[:D][:D][:D]

Are you serious Larry?

I mean can´t you just be careful when you recruit your Regiments and make sure they are the ones you want before you click the button?

I remember as a kid pushing 600 little cardboard counters around stacked 8 high on a paper map hoping the cat wouldn`t knock them over before we finished the game.

[:D]Now THAT was ¨unplayable¨[:D]

This is a dream compared to that.

[LarryP]

Ike;

I've had it with posting here. I am sorry for ever saying a single word about any of this. It has turned into a personal issue now. I don't care if SLI doesn't work. I don't care about the menus anymore either.

I said that "this game is unplayable for me." "Me." You can compare it to your unplayable things in life, but I said it was "unplayable for me." This has really gotten out of context. I am not posting anymore here so have at it.

[Ike99]

Ike;

I've had it with posting here. I am sorry for ever saying a single word about any of this. It has turned into a personal issue now. I don't care if SLI doesn't work. I don't care about the menus anymore either.

I said that "this game is unplayable for me." "Me." You can compare it to your unplayable things in life, but I said it was "unplayable for me." This has really gotten out of context. I am not posting anymore here so have at it.

Hi Larry how are you?

Well from other things you have said on here about ¨For Liberty¨ it seems you like the game though yes?

You just don´t like it not having a cancel button yes? Myself...I haven´t noticed it but Venator said...

Well I don't think that calling a game 'garbage' because there is one mildly irritating feature

so someone else shares your opinion about not have a ¨undo¨...¨cancel¨ button, whatever you want to call it.

Anyways my point is, if I liked a game yet it didn`t have a cancel button that could cancel my changes after I made them I would just be careful about making my changes before I did them.

But your right, this is just me. The games unplayable without this for you so that's the way it is with ¨For Liberty¨

But I wouldn´t stop posting here because of this. Hussar is still making games it seems. Maybe it's too late to get a cancel button for Liberty the way you want but probably not for their next game. Maybe it's not too late for Liberty actually. Hussar did just post here....

...but if this is an issue for many people we will try to come up with something.

....so maybe if you explain yourself very well and put sugar on top you might get what your wanting. [:D]

Anyways...if I felt so strongly about this as you seem I would try to explain myself as a current and future potential customer so I could get what I want in a game.

About that SLI thing...I don´t have this but my understanding is this links video cards together to get really fast frame rates for detailed 3D games. Flight simulators, shoot up games, games like this.

I think it`s pretty safe to assume this is not needed with ¨Liberty¨[:D]and I understand you can turn it off and the game works...so who cares if it works with SLI anyways? [&:]

I don`t, if people can turn their SLI off and the game works what`s the problem? [&:]

[James Ward]

"I consider it a bad design."

I can understand that but it doesn't seem to be a really big problem. It does work.

"You however have found a way to make it sound like having a choice to change your mind in a menu is a bad thing."

It's not a bad thing but hey wrong choices can be considered part of the game too.
It's not like you are stuck with a leader you didn't want forever. And you can always get rid of excess troops over the course of the 200+ turns [:)]

[LarryP]

Ike;

Thank you for posting a NICE reply. I never want to disgruntle anybody in these forums, except sometimes a developer who I feel is not giving a good enough product.

I don't want Liberty to work in SLI mode for any other reason than this: If you do not remember each time when you load the game, to turn OFF SLI, then you get the blue screen of death. I mean your PC locks up so tight that you have to turn it off. I got so tired of this happening. They tried for a while to fix it.

My original postings at Battlefront I believe it was (a year ago) I was very kind with the cancel button issue. I guess the 30% sale, the 1.08 update that was messed up, and several days of nobody supporting the game irritated me. Others were irritated too but I seem to be the one that is getting hammered on.

From now on I am not going to ever post anything in the support sections no matter how bad a game is. My nerves have had it. I really am not a bad person...[;)]

Thanks Ike, you were very kind.

EDIT: Yes, I like the game. It is a great game for that period of time and they worked hard on it.

[LarryP]

ORIGINAL: James Ward

"I consider it a bad design."

I can understand that but it doesn't seem to be a really big problem. It does work.

"You however have found a way to make it sound like having a choice to change your mind in a menu is a bad thing."

It's not a bad thing but hey wrong choices can be considered part of the game too.
It's not like you are stuck with a leader you didn't want forever. And you can always get rid of excess troops over the course of the 200+ turns [:)]

Okay okay okay. Gosh, can you let it go??? [&:]

[HussarGames]

The button marked 'X' is NOT cancel. It is not cancel in Windows either. It simply closes the window - as the hint clearly states as well. Whatever action you do is performed by another button. This is consistent in the game.

[LarryP]

ORIGINAL: HussarGames

The button marked 'X' is NOT cancel. It is not cancel in Windows either. It simply closes the window - as the hint clearly states as well. Whatever action you do is performed by another button. This is consistent in the game.

True, it is VERY consistent in your game. Great!

I don't care anymore. I wish I had never said a word about your game, ever. If you want menus that won't allow a user to cancel anything they mistakingly did, then it's your game.

In every Windows menu where you can make changes, there is an option to abort any changes with a "no-named" button. Call it whatever you want, I don't care. This has gone so stupidly far. You obviously don't want to change it so let it go. I am apparantly the ONLY user that does not like this feature, so ignore me. I am an idiot. I don't know what I am talking about. My wording is stupid. I am a dumb programmer that wants something that's not even IN Windows menus. I know nothing about Windows or its menus. I was just as stupid in the days of MSDOS. I have no common sense. Ignore me.

There. You should be quite happy now. You have won. Don't make any changes. The game is perfect. [&o][&o][&o][&o][&o][&o][&o][&o][&o][&o]

[TheHellPatrol]

ORIGINAL: HussarGames

The button marked 'X' is NOT cancel. It is not cancel in Windows either. It simply closes the window - as the hint clearly states as well. Whatever action you do is performed by another button. This is consistent in the game.

I think the bottom line with this issue is there is someone who clearly has a couple issues with the "cancel button" who ALSO had an issue with SLI and has sucked it up for a year only to find a new and very tardy "bonus patch" which broke the game completely...to quote Ike99..."don't use the new patch as it's broken". To release a patch and disappear for awhile only added to the frustration already experienced by some of us. Frankly, to each his/her own...there are some games i won't play because "I" don't like the interface and the way this latest patch was handled does not make me want to jump through any hoops to play a game in a sea of choices. I wish you guys luck and i hope you handle any possible future releases a little more carefully[;)].

[Ike99]

True, it is VERY consistent in your game. Great!

I don't care anymore. I wish I had never said a word about your game, ever. If you want menus that won't allow a user to cancel anything they mistakingly did, then it's your game.

In every Windows menu where you can make changes, there is an option to abort any changes with a "no-named" button. Call it whatever you want, I don't care. This has gone so stupidly far. You obviously don't want to change it so let it go. I am apparantly the ONLY user that does not like this feature, so ignore me. I am an idiot. I don't know what I am talking about. My wording is stupid. I am a dumb programmer that wants something that's not even IN Windows menus. I know nothing about Windows or its menus. I was just as stupid in the days of MSDOS. I have no common sense. Ignore me.

There. You should be quite happy now. You have won. Don't make any changes. The game is perfect.

Come on now Larry...let`s not be a drama queen. The world is still spinning....I think. [:D]

[theboneyman]

I have no problem with not being able to cancel every action I take in the game. I even think the take back move button on the strategic interface is gratuitous. The right-click for action takes care of most finger-failure situations nicely so I've never used it. A wargame is a bit more of a "grown up" type game and plowing through mistakes is just part of life and true the the historical situations they portray.

[James Ward]

ORIGINAL: TheHellPatrol


I think the bottom line with this issue is there is someone who clearly has a couple issues with the "cancel button" who ALSO had an issue with SLI and has sucked it up for a year only to find a new and very tardy "bonus patch" which broke the game completely...to quote Ike99..."don't use the new patch as it's broken".

I think is pretty much the case.
I can understand where he is coming from. I love the game but if I had to start my computer is a unique way just to play it AND had other smaller gripes I don't think I would like the game 1/2 as much. If it worked in SLI I bet he'd be happy to overlook the other smaller issues.