1792 Start: Got Napoleon?

[TheOx]

Does Napoleon appear after a few years in the 1792 scenario?

[henri51]

ORIGINAL: TheOx

Does Napoleon appear after a few years in the 1792 scenario?

If so, probably not before 1795. In the 1796 scenario, I have him as a 3-star general, which is historically realistic, since he did not become head of an army before he was sent to Italy where he first showed his true genius (the "whiff of grapeshot" against the Pasir mob (1795?) was his idea, but it was carried out by Murat, a Captail who later became one of his Marshalls).

Henri

[morganbj]

Not in the 1792 standard scenario.  I don't know about the others.  Here's how to find out:  Open the GOG2Generals.txt file in the proper scenario foder.  It lists the generals who start and are scheduled to show up during a scenario.  Those that show up as a result of being successful in battle come from a different file and have randomly generated values.

[Anthropoid]

Any suggestions on how not to get your arse kicked in the 1792 scenario!?

[Tanaka]

ORIGINAL: Anthropoid

Any suggestions on how not to get your arse kicked in the 1792 scenario!?

Im playing as Spain in this scenario and things have worked out pretty well for me. I got payed to be involved in a large war against France. British and French fleets neutralized each other while the French armies were occupied with Austria and Prussia. I then used my fleet to mop up the French navy and then later in another war what was left of the British navy. After that I was pretty much left alone to do what I wanted though I am still at war with Britain they are pretty much contained on their island...although they are taking all my colonies and by getting protectorates building up their army and navy again so they will be a thorn in my side again in the future. My economy is rolling along and I have taken Genoa and am invading Portugal. I have just destroyed the Portugal army and am now occupying their provinces...I will be taking Modena next...

[Gil R.]

ORIGINAL: Anthropoid

Any suggestions on how not to get your arse kicked in the 1792 scenario!?

"The only way to win is not to play the game."

[Joram]

LOL Gil, isn't that from "Wargames".  I think that was just on the other day.

[Gil R.]

ORIGINAL: Joram

LOL Gil, isn't that from "Wargames".  I think that was just on the other day.

Yes. I was commenting to Eric and Mr. Z just the other day that I'd like to see that movie again one of these days to see how it holds up.

[morganbj]

I have it on DVD.  I'll watch it for you to save you some time.

[Anthropoid]

[:D]

Okay, so in the interest of getting more substantive feedback, I'm gonna quote myself from the thread I started in the War Room . . . not the best place to ask for newb-like guidance, but then you don't have a "Help! I'm a Fricking Nuewb W/O a CLUE!?" section yet . . .

I'm noticing that my units have very low % chance to change formations. I think that this might partly be because I've bolstered my units with troops militias. In any event, these starting troops in 1792 are even more useless than in the start of Forge of Freedom.

Any suggestions on how I can get their ability to change from Column to Line up above 10 and 20%?

It seems the time frames for each "turn" in the Brigade Detail Battles are quite a bit different than in FoF too, so maybe the idea is that it might take hours and hours to get your units are formed up?

I don't see my Generals attached to particular Brigades. Can I not move a General from one unit in Detailed Battle to another? In FoF it is the 'g' key IIRC.

So I notice that you can transfer troops from one Div (they are Divisions right?) into others. So I moved a bunch of Divs (both Militia and Infantry) to Champagne where they rendezvoused with Swiss Guard and Armee du Centre. I attached Swiss Corps to A Centre and got my Generals sorted out with the best dudes in there commandin' . . . then I beefed up my best units (the ones that start with spec abilities). This all took June, July. Created a Supply Depot in Champagne July 1792, and then end of Aug 1792 I sent my beefed up Armee Centre over into Luxembourg to pick a fight.

I think I started out with a ~100 to 45 numerical advantage.

When the battle came I chose Brigade Level Detail, which is pretty cool. Applying my basic brilliance at this tactical engine [8D] from FoF is not working quite right . . . so I'm reallyl struggling to kick some Austrians out of Lux. My questions:

1) Not sure what a Cav Screen is good for?
2) Why do these losers only have a 10 or at best 20% chance to change formation?
3) Where my Generals? I got Doumerriez, Bournelon-whats-his-face and Duc De Long-john-silver attached, but I'm not seeing them attached to Brigades on teh battlefield??
4) Can I not transfer my Generals around to different Brigades with the 'g' key like in FoF?
5) Can I not try to get out-of-combat units back into combat once per round with that little button like in FoF?
6) How does Square Formation compare to Line?
7) Is fighting in Column about as bad a thing to do in COGEE as it is in FoF?

8) Is there a way to get depleted Divs to replenish without transferring troops from other units? Do units not slowly replenish from being in Supply like they do in FoF?

9) How come no button to alternate supply settings? You know: off, low, mid, high supply priority or whatever it is?

[Gil R.]

ORIGINAL: bjmorgan

I have it on DVD.  I'll watch it for you to save you some time.

If Obama had given Gordon Brown a copy of "Wargames" on DVD I'd have more respect for his gift, since it would have been a clever way of discouraging the British from engaging in thermonuclear war with us.

[Anthropoid]

Hey Gil any answers to my queries? I hate to barge in on your comedy sketch and all, but help man!? [:'(]

[henri51]

[quote]ORIGINAL: Anthropoid

1) Not sure what a Cav Screen is good for?
It prevents the enemy from seeing what is behind the screen.

2) Why do these losers only have a 10 or at best 20% chance to change formation?
My units have over 90% chance to change formation, so I guess you have to win some battles so they get experience. Fill up experienced units with other experienced units if possible, otherwise their experience will go down.

3) Where my Generals? I got Doumerriez, Bournelon-whats-his-face and Duc De Long-john-silver attached, but I'm not seeing them attached to Brigades on teh battlefield??
You probably did not put them in a Corps but left them unattached.

4) Can I not transfer my Generals around to different Brigades with the 'g' key like in FoF?
You can, you can!

5) Can I not try to get out-of-combat units back into combat once per round with that little button like in FoF?
Hmmmm...haven't seen that...

6) How does Square Formation compare to Line?
It doesn't have a flank.It moves more slowly and I think defends less well than in line.

7) Is fighting in Column about as bad a thing to do in COGEE as it is in FoF?
Avoid it if possible, but if your units have 10% chance to change formation, you have no choice.

8) Is there a way to get depleted Divs to replenish without transferring troops from other units? Do units not slowly replenish from being in Supply like they do in FoF?

Yes they do.

9) How come no button to alternate supply settings? You know: off, low, mid, high supply priority or whatever it is?
Don't think so, but it is worse to be out of supplies in enemy territory.

Henri the noob

[Gil R.]

ORIGINAL: Anthropoid

Hey Gil any answers to my queries? I hate to barge in on your comedy sketch and all, but help man!? [:'(]

Oops, I somehow missed your post, so intent was I on my comedy. Or thinking of the young Ally Sheedy.

Anyway, henri51 has done a good job answering, though I'd add that the most important thing about square formation is that it is the best defense against cavalry, and that if you look at the Supply Report tab each turn you'll see which units have gotten new troops. And COG:EE's supply system is different from FOF's, so you don't mess with supply priority.

[Anthropoid]

Kewl.