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Dans ma nouvelle partie avec les rouges je m'interroge sur les évènements politiques. Sur l'image jointe j'ai

- Nommer un général komoutch
- interdire le parti communiste
- décosaquisation

hors ce ne sont pas des évènements rouges mais des évènements blanc non ? Es ce que je me trompe ?


Hello, heureux de te voir là!

Je n'ai pas localisé en français les events et options de FY. Je le ferai quand j'aurais le temps, un jour...Pour l'instant, seulement jouable en anglais. Il faut dire que tu es le seul français à m'avoir parlé de FY [:)]

Disclaimer: as my English obviously underlines it, I'm French. So I talk from time to time with French players. We were devising about French localization of FY, or more exactly, the lack of [:D]
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FY compatible with 1.02b

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I forgot to add FY seems compatible with 1.02b, as I've run a few turns without trouble.
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RE: FY compatible with 1.02b

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I allowed Land Reform as Reds, and I get this message appear after I had used this new feature (either the NEP option or land reform...that I never noticed before. Kudos).

Obviously a White message.

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RE: FY compatible with 1.02b

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I allowed Land Reform as Reds, and I get this message appear after I had used this new feature (either the NEP option or land reform...that I never noticed before. Kudos).

Obviously a White message.

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Bug. You're reading a White message. Petty burzhois have infiltrated our propaganda apparatus. We shall exterminate this scum. Immediatly [:D]

Anyway, the message is wrong but the option works as intended. Now, to get the right message, some changes will be made which will force to start a new game as Reds. So I will fix this one only for the "real 1.03" official patch ;-)

BTW, there are other bugs with Western Allied units yet on the map in spite of the AIL. Going to fix it too.
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RE: FY compatible with 1.02b

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ok merci pour la réponse [:)] Je viens de m'allier avec les anarchistes [;)] je te dirais
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RE: FY compatible with 1.02b

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Bon l'alliance avec les anarchistes ne donne rien [:(]. Grigoriev et Makhno ne bouge toujours pas. Faute de zone de recule grigoriev s'est fait détruire comme d'habitude. Les français sont toujours aussi agressif. Faute de mieux je propose de redonner le contrôle des anarchistes au joueur rouge [:(] A moins que tu nous accomplisse un miracle [&o]
Au passage loyauté anarchiste toujours à Nova et Hulai seulement.
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RE: FY compatible with 1.02b

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Bon l'alliance avec les anarchistes ne donne rien [:(]. Grigoriev et Makhno ne bouge toujours pas. Faute de zone de recule grigoriev s'est fait détruire comme d'habitude. Les français sont toujours aussi agressif. Faute de mieux je propose de redonner le contrôle des anarchistes au joueur rouge [:(] A moins que tu nous accomplisse un miracle [&o]
Au passage loyauté anarchiste toujours à Nova et Hulai seulement.

Curious, as there are games where anarchists are moving and living until 1920. I'm going to look at, there's certainly something wrong in my events.
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RE: FY compatible with 1.02b

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Juste une petite correction grigoriev n'est pas mort (Le retour de la vengeance [:D]) mais le reste est toujours valable. Ci joint le backup du tour suivant.
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RE: FY compatible with 1.02b

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Juste une petite correction grigoriev n'est pas mort (Le retour de la vengeance [:D]) mais le reste est toujours valable. Ci joint le backup du tour suivant.

Working on. BTW, which version are you using? 1.02b, 1.03 without winter, 1.03 with CTD [:D]?
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RE: FY compatible with 1.02b

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Ricco, I've loaded your save. Makhno has attacked Melitopol this turn [:)]. I must give yet more aggro to ANA, but they aren't as passive than in the last weeks. Don't lose any hope. [:)]

Fixed another glitch for some French troops allowed to move wrongly. It will help Grigoriev.
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RE: FY compatible with 1.02b

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it's a good news. I play with 1.03 and fatal year mod of course [;)]
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RE: FY compatible with 1.02b

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I will clean abit tomorrow the AI files for Anarchists and Ukrainian factions. But ANA are moving, not as than in RL, I agree, but they do. The aggro level is sufficient to authorize moves for this tiny Anarchist faction. So, even without mirecla, I should be able to alter yet the AI to force it to attack more often [:)]

For the Loyalty, events haven't fired, because they weren't in the last files. I was sure to have done them [:D], maybe I've forgotten to save. Fixed.
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RE: FY compatible with 1.02b

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it's a good news. I play with 1.03 and fatal year mod of course [;)]


Beware: the 1.03 hotfix has a very nasty bug affecting AI. AI process are stopped sometimes , hampering AI; fortunatly, sooner or later, a CTD ruins the whole game [:D]. And the CTD is almost certain. I've myself got back to 1.02b, which may explain ANA AI move...[8D]
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RE: FY compatible with 1.02b

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This gets more confusing by the day. So, Clovis, what do we do? Do we rollback to 1.02b and install your latest download? Do we stick with a bugged 1.03 and install the latest download? Do we wait until further bugs are found and carry on playing what we have (in my case it is with 1.03 and its a pain when I have the exit the damn thing...thinking all the time of what I will miss and planning in advance before I exit)...or?

I think I will roll back to 1.02b, install your latest download (tomorrow) and start again. Shame, because I have just got involved with a war with Poland. I am not too happy fighting the Germans though, I think they should be kept from this conflict because of Brest-Litovsk.

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This gets more confusing by the day. So, Clovis, what do we do? Do we rollback to 1.02b and install your latest download? Do we stick with a bugged 1.03 and install the latest download? Do we wait until further bugs are found and carry on playing what we have (in my case it is with 1.03 and its a pain when I have the exit the damn thing...thinking all the time of what I will miss and planning in advance before I exit)...or?

I think I will roll back to 1.02b, install your latest download (tomorrow) and start again. Shame, because I have just got involved with a war with Poland. I am not too happy fighting the Germans though, I think they should be kept from this conflict because of Brest-Litovsk.

[&:]


Do what you want[:)] FY may work with 1.02b, 1.03. I'm getting back with 1.02b because it's simpler to debug and test than with CTDs of the 1.03. If you wish to keep playing with the 1.03, I will reply to you and answer your questions [:)]

Germans in the game are Freikorps

Extract of Wikipedia ( because I've no time to quote my better sources) :

1919 - Iron Brigade


As many of the demoralized German soldiers were being withdrawn from Latvia, Major Josef Bischoff, an experienced German officer, formed a Freikorps unit called the Eiserne Brigade (translated: "Iron Brigade"). This unit was deployed to Riga and used to delay the Red Army advance. Meanwhile, volunteers were recruited from Germany, with promises of land, a chance to fight Bolshevism, and other enticements of dubious veracity.[3] These soldiers, along with remnants of the German 8th Army and the Eiserne Brigade, were reconstituted into the Eiserne (Iron) Division. Also, the Baltic Germans and some Latvians formed the Baltische Landeswehr. The official mission assigned to this force was to prevent any Red Army advance into East Prussia, but its real mission was to help the Baltic Germans re-establish their own state or dominance in Latvia.[1]

Initially, the Iron Division was commanded by Bischoff, and the Baltische Landeswehr by Major Alfred Fletcher, a German of Scottish ancestry. In late February, only the seaport of Liepaja and surroundings remained in the hands of the German and Latvian forces. In March 1919, the Iron Brigade helped the German detachments win a series of victories over the Red forces. The main blow in the campaign was delivered by the Baltische Landeswehr, which first occupied port of Ventspils and then drove south to Riga.[1] This attack appears to have been coordinated with the Estonians who drove the Bolsheviks from the northern part of Latvia.


The Allies ordered the German government to withdraw its troops from the Baltic after defeat of Bolsheviks. The German forces attempted to seize control of Latvia with the assistance of the local ethnic German population. On April 16 he organised a coup d'état in Liepāja, the provisional national government of Latvia took refuge aboard steamship "Saratow". A new puppet government headed by Pastor Andrievs Niedra was proclaimed. Pastor Niedra was a Latvian Lutheran minister with pro-German sympathies. The Germans convinced the British to postpone the withdrawal of the German Freikorps units because this would give the Bolsheviks a free hand. Britain backed down after recognizing the the gravity of the military situation, and the Freikorps moved on and captured Riga on May 23, 1919.


After the capture of Riga, the Freikorps were accused of killing 300 Latvians in Jelgava, 200 in Tukums, 125 in Daugavgrīva, and over 3,000 in Riga. The Latvian nationalists had turned against the German Freikorps and sought assistance from the Estonian troops who had occupied Latvian territory north of the Daugava River. The German forces advanced north towards the Latvian city of Cēsis. The objective of the German forces had now clearly become the establishment of German supremacy in the Baltic by eliminating the Estonian military and Latvian national units, not the defeat of the Bolsheviks. The Estonian commander General Johan Laidoner insisted the Germans withdraw to a line south of the Gauja river. He also ordered the Estonian 3rd division to seize the Gulbene railroad station.[1]

On June 19, 1919, the Landeswehr and the Iron Division launched an attack to capture Cēsis. Initially, the Freikorps captured the town of Straupe and continued their advance toward Limbaži. The Estonians launched a counterattack and drove the Freikorps out of Limbaži. On June 21, the Estonians received reinforcements and immediately attacked the Landeswehr under Fletcher, who was forced to withdrawn from an area to the northeast of Cēsis. The Iron Division attacked from Straupe towards Stalbe in an effort to relieve pressure on the Landeswehr. On the morning of June 23, the Germans began a general retreat toward Riga.[5]

The Allies again insisted that the Germans withdraw their remaining troops from Latvia, and on June 3 intervened to impose an armistice between Estonia, Latvia, and the Landeswehr and Freikorps when the Latvians and Estonians were about to march into Riga. Major Bischoff created a German Legion from over a dozen Freikorps units and turned the units over to the West Russian Volunteer Army. In all, the Iron Division transferred over 14,000 men, 64 aircraft, 56 artillery pieces, and 156 machine guns. Six cavalry units and a field hospital also went over. The offensive by the reformed German army was subsequently defeated by the Latvian Army, which received assistance from British and French warships and Estonian armoured trains.[1]


So fighting Freikorps is historical. WAD. In the official game, Freikorps is part as Balts of the Southern Whites faction, and consequently, German units achieve in the official version the war under Moscow walls, besieging Reds with Balts and Russian units.

In FY, Freikorps is an independent faction, rules by its own AI and searching to fulfill its own agenda in Baltic States...


I will stress this point in the FY rules document. Thanks!
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RE: FY compatible with 1.02b

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This gets more confusing by the day.

Not really. Use 1.02b and you don't have to worry about CTDs. [:)]
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RE: FY compatible with 1.02b

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In the current game of Kev_Uk, in early 1920, German Freikorps controls the Southern part of the Baltic States. The AI will never search for conquering Moscow [;)] but you will have to deal with this nasty and experienced rogue force in the Baltics, whatever your side, Red or White.

That's the strong point of RUS: a multifactional game. Ukrainians, Anarchists, Freikorps, poles, Southern Whites, Siberian Whites, Reds and Greens are fighting each other [:)]

One of my source of inspiration is Triumph of chaos boardgame, and I like chaos [:D]
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RE: FY compatible with 1.02b

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I just started a new GC, 1.02b, latest Fatal Year mod. Brutal. Whites took Ekaterinodor, Ekaterinburg, Simbirsk first four turns, two months. Juggernaut...rolled over every single defensive force I had. All I have is Stalin and 10th Army, using like a fire brigade. Tsaritsyn, for the first time I have played this, is really threatened.
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RE: FY compatible with 1.02b

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I just started a new GC, 1.02b, latest Fatal Year mod. Brutal. Whites took Ekaterinodor, Ekaterinburg, Simbirsk first four turns, two months. Juggernaut...rolled over every single defensive force I had. All I have is Stalin and 10th Army, using like a fire brigade. Tsaritsyn, for the first time I have played this, is really threatened.


let me known the next turns. Build, build, build as REDs, to get the necessary new units to turn the tide. maybe I should give at start a reserve of EPs to Reds to help them to use conscription or money options. A reserve would be logical,as Reds had before earned some victories. Let me say what you think.
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