I'm running Windows 10, the latest version of JTCS (2.02), and I've downloaded the Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Service Pack 1 Redistributable. Both East Front and West Front work flawlessly, but Rising Sun doesn't work at all. The game will load, I can start a new campaign, but as soon as I start a battle, the game becomes unresponsive. I can't change zoom levels, and if I try to pan the camera, I'll start getting graphical screen tearing.
Anyone know how I can fix this? I'd really like to play Rising Sun since it was the only one I haven't had much time with of the three.
Thank you.
Rising Sun is broken on Windows 10 [SOLVED]
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RE: Rising Sun is broken on Windows 10
I discovered that it was an NVIDIA service causing my issue. Here's what I did to fix it in case anyone runs into this in the future.
1. Type MSCONFIG in the start bar and hit Enter.
2. Go to the Services tab and find NVIDIA LocalSystem Container. Uncheck it and hit apply.
3. Restart PC.
That's all it was for me. Until I find a way to resolve the issue, I have to disable the service when I want to play Rising Sun (East Front and West front don't have this issue) and reenable it after.
If this isn't the conflicting file you have, you can try this to find it instead:
1. Disable all background programs. You can do this by running MSCONFIG and disabling all non-windows start-up programs and services.
2. While in the Services tab, make sure you click 'Hide all Microsoft services' so you don't accidentally disable any.
3. After you disable all non-windows services, run the game. If the problem goes away, then there's a conflict.
4. Reopen MSCONFIG and enable the services one by one until you find the conflicting service. You will need to restart your pc after each enable and see if the game runs. Keep going until you find the conflict.
1. Type MSCONFIG in the start bar and hit Enter.
2. Go to the Services tab and find NVIDIA LocalSystem Container. Uncheck it and hit apply.
3. Restart PC.
That's all it was for me. Until I find a way to resolve the issue, I have to disable the service when I want to play Rising Sun (East Front and West front don't have this issue) and reenable it after.
If this isn't the conflicting file you have, you can try this to find it instead:
1. Disable all background programs. You can do this by running MSCONFIG and disabling all non-windows start-up programs and services.
2. While in the Services tab, make sure you click 'Hide all Microsoft services' so you don't accidentally disable any.
3. After you disable all non-windows services, run the game. If the problem goes away, then there's a conflict.
4. Reopen MSCONFIG and enable the services one by one until you find the conflicting service. You will need to restart your pc after each enable and see if the game runs. Keep going until you find the conflict.
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RE: Rising Sun is broken on Windows 10
Something I just posted to the JTCS Support forum...
I often notice on these forums, many have a GFX issue with RS. IF you have an NVIDEA GFX card that may be the culprit. In 2017 I struggled at home and on this and the Matrix forums. It was my efforts, and NOT those from any help forum which ID'd the issue. I quote you from a post I sent here.... "I find that IF I DISABLE THE NVIDEA DRIVER, and use the built-in MSFT windows graphic display, then an OLD game such as JTCS RS WORKS, as do EF,WF,WW1Mod." You can view 2 full post exchanges on this forum: posted by THREAD STARTER...mimarsp,... AND DATED 7/21/17 AND 7/22/17..NAMED "Rising Sun Graphic error" .
I had a reply from here or Matrix (which I can't now find), BUT it seems a game recognized by NVIDEA has an .exe labled rs.exe, and it interferes with our favorite game. They indicated that future produced titles would have longer more specific .exe app file names.
I do think that there is also a way within the NVIDA set up to exclude that spurious "rs.exe" reference. I can't recall that process right now,Something within the NVIDEA set up,
custom program title (2nd page) showing ALL NV recognized programs, or just those specific to your PC.
2017 post quote...I find that IF I DISABLE THE NVIDEA DRIVER, and use the built-in MSFT windows graphic display, then an OLD game such as JTCS RS WORKS, as do EF,WF,WW1Mod.
I often notice on these forums, many have a GFX issue with RS. IF you have an NVIDEA GFX card that may be the culprit. In 2017 I struggled at home and on this and the Matrix forums. It was my efforts, and NOT those from any help forum which ID'd the issue. I quote you from a post I sent here.... "I find that IF I DISABLE THE NVIDEA DRIVER, and use the built-in MSFT windows graphic display, then an OLD game such as JTCS RS WORKS, as do EF,WF,WW1Mod." You can view 2 full post exchanges on this forum: posted by THREAD STARTER...mimarsp,... AND DATED 7/21/17 AND 7/22/17..NAMED "Rising Sun Graphic error" .
I had a reply from here or Matrix (which I can't now find), BUT it seems a game recognized by NVIDEA has an .exe labled rs.exe, and it interferes with our favorite game. They indicated that future produced titles would have longer more specific .exe app file names.
I do think that there is also a way within the NVIDA set up to exclude that spurious "rs.exe" reference. I can't recall that process right now,Something within the NVIDEA set up,
custom program title (2nd page) showing ALL NV recognized programs, or just those specific to your PC.
2017 post quote...I find that IF I DISABLE THE NVIDEA DRIVER, and use the built-in MSFT windows graphic display, then an OLD game such as JTCS RS WORKS, as do EF,WF,WW1Mod.
RE: Rising Sun is broken on Windows 10
Dang man. Thanks!!!!
you finally fixed it. Ive made like 3 or 4 tech support tickets trying to figure out how to fix this till i read this. thanks a ton!
you finally fixed it. Ive made like 3 or 4 tech support tickets trying to figure out how to fix this till i read this. thanks a ton!
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Re: Rising Sun is broken on Windows 10 [SOLVED]
This resolved my issue with RS as well. Thanks for documenting what you did.
Re: Rising Sun is broken on Windows 10 [SOLVED]
The issue still exists in win 11. I discovered it by reading this thread. Thanks to those that found workarounds.
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Re: Rising Sun is broken on Windows 10 [SOLVED]
My fix differs, using Nvida app settings to change resolution rather than disable card to run Rising Sun, 800 x 600 up to 1152 x 864 works, anything above crashes game.
Re: Rising Sun is broken on Windows 10 [SOLVED]
I wonder if anyone has found a more elegant solution than having to restart your computer every time you want to fire up Rising Sun and do another restart when you want to go back to other games?
I haven't tried lowering the display resolution but I don't want to play in a solution even lower than 720p anyway.
I haven't tried lowering the display resolution but I don't want to play in a solution even lower than 720p anyway.
Re: Rising Sun is broken on Windows 10 [SOLVED]
I have an Nvidia Quadro M2000 4GB graphics card and did the "MISCONFIG" things mentioned. It did not work. I am able to run both East Front and West Front with no issues. But when I run RS I can get to scenario/campaign selection and it shuts down when I click "begin" after I've selected one.
Re: Rising Sun is broken on Windows 10 [SOLVED]
I'm setting up a new Win11 machine with an NVida card, I found that installing the Visual Studio (VC++ 9) 2008 X86 redist package fixed my problems without needing to change the resolution.
VC++ 2008 Redist x86
NOTE: It has to be the x86 version, the x64 version won't fix it.
HTH
VC++ 2008 Redist x86
NOTE: It has to be the x86 version, the x64 version won't fix it.
HTH
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Re: Rising Sun is broken on Windows 10 [SOLVED]
Hey Sarge, that sounded super-promising. Alas, it doesn't fix the problem for me.OldSarge wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:05 pm I'm setting up a new Win11 machine with an NVida card, I found that installing the Visual Studio (VC++ 9) 2008 X86 redist package fixed my problems without needing to change the resolution.
VC++ 2008 Redist x86
NOTE: It has to be the x86 version, the x64 version won't fix it.
HTH
Maybe the "fix" was that your system was still a virginal at the time. Is it still working for you or did the installation of nVidia drivers and/or the Windows updates break the game again?
I finally got the Cold War mod for the Campaign Series 1.1 to boot correctly but soon enough I run into the same freezing display problem as in Rising Sun. So now I need a fix twice as much, haha.
Re: Rising Sun is broken on Windows 10 [SOLVED]
Ok, Insidius' fix with the MSCONFIG worked for me now! Both games playable: Rising Sun and Cold War mod. Absolutely great!
Re: Rising Sun is broken on Windows 10 [SOLVED]
I did that but I'm still having severe screen tear whenever I play rising sun. any other ideas?
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Re: Rising Sun is broken on Windows 10 [SOLVED]
Unfortunately, as far as I know, there isn't a way to stop the screen saver tear.
Hopefully someone can chime with their solution?
Hopefully someone can chime with their solution?
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Re: Rising Sun is broken on Windows 10 [SOLVED]
Win 11 with NVIDIA here.
In my case the RS map would not display. I could start a game, but the map would be completely black. I could see that the scenario was actually playing however...it was just on a black screen.
"West" and "East" were running fine, and I didn't like the idea of turning off NVIDIA. My drivers are tuned just where I want them, so I don't like messing with them.
Taking a cue from a previous post, I went with the idea that NVIDIA has a problem with the file "rs.exe." So I went into the Pacific folder, and renamed "rs.exe" to "rsa.exe" (you could rename it anything I guess, but I just made it simple on myself). Then I right clicked on rsa.exe and ran as admin. The game ran fine. However, it started at scenario selection and you lose the opening menu. So while you can pick scenarios, you are picking them from the windows file display and you can't see their descriptions.
If you really still need the descriptions, you could view the .scn file in a text editor. The scenario description is at the end of the file.
Also, using this method you lose the random scenario generator. But there is an inelegant solution.
Run RS like you normally would. Choose scenario generator and select the parameters. Once you are done, the game will end...because it is looking for rs.exe that no longer exists. But it did generate a "random" scenario file (it numbers them "random0," "random1," and so on). So then start up your new rsa.exe file, and select the latest random scenario off the menu, and you will be in.
Having gone through this however, I do believe there is a way to set an overide for "rs.exe" in the NVIDIA configuration...I just don't have the time to research it the moment...I just want to play the game...
In my case the RS map would not display. I could start a game, but the map would be completely black. I could see that the scenario was actually playing however...it was just on a black screen.
"West" and "East" were running fine, and I didn't like the idea of turning off NVIDIA. My drivers are tuned just where I want them, so I don't like messing with them.
Taking a cue from a previous post, I went with the idea that NVIDIA has a problem with the file "rs.exe." So I went into the Pacific folder, and renamed "rs.exe" to "rsa.exe" (you could rename it anything I guess, but I just made it simple on myself). Then I right clicked on rsa.exe and ran as admin. The game ran fine. However, it started at scenario selection and you lose the opening menu. So while you can pick scenarios, you are picking them from the windows file display and you can't see their descriptions.
If you really still need the descriptions, you could view the .scn file in a text editor. The scenario description is at the end of the file.
Also, using this method you lose the random scenario generator. But there is an inelegant solution.
Run RS like you normally would. Choose scenario generator and select the parameters. Once you are done, the game will end...because it is looking for rs.exe that no longer exists. But it did generate a "random" scenario file (it numbers them "random0," "random1," and so on). So then start up your new rsa.exe file, and select the latest random scenario off the menu, and you will be in.
Having gone through this however, I do believe there is a way to set an overide for "rs.exe" in the NVIDIA configuration...I just don't have the time to research it the moment...I just want to play the game...
Re: Rising Sun is broken on Windows 10 [SOLVED]
Any updates?
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Re: Rising Sun is broken on Windows 10 [SOLVED]
I have that issue with all 5 campaign series games. It only happens if I do not keep the screen maximized. If I want to check email or change music I make it a point to save before I do an alt-tab other wise I could have this issue. Its annoying but not game breaking.
Re: Rising Sun is broken on Windows 10 [SOLVED]
Hello and welcome.Jason Petho wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 3:56 pm Unfortunately, as far as I know, there isn't a way to stop the screen saver tear.
Hopefully someone can chime with their solution?
Recently I had to switch to a computer with Win11. It turned out that one of the three CS games did not work properly on the new system. Raising Sun conflicts with the Nvidia component and when RS starts, the map screen freezes. The problem is NOT SOLVED at all, as the title of the post suggests. The proposed solution is cumbersome and inconvenient.
I would like to kindly ask Jason and his team to look into this problem and solve it in the form of a fix that will help players use the purchased game on computers with Win11. West Front and East Front work ok. Raising sun does not work (the rs.exe file probably conflicts with the Nvidia component. If we change the name to, for example, rsa.exe, the game will run but without access to the menu, start screen, etc. This is not a good solution. I am asking for help and solving the problem...
Regards.
Norbert