Heroes of Stalingrad: What's Next?

[Barthheart]

ORIGINAL: Capitaine

Keep it in WWII. Definitely not 'Nam. Normandy or Pacific would probably have good infantry engagements which is the featured action in LnL Heroes games.

Forgotten Heroes Vietnam was the very first LnL series title. Band of Heroes (Normandy) was the next one.

[KEYSTONE07950]

I know it's not the Lock N Load system, but I'd LOVE to see Nuklear Winter'68 on the PC.

Pretty Please [&o]

[Barthheart]

ORIGINAL: z1812

ORIGINAL: Barthheart

ORIGINAL: wodin

Well you did buy an east front game...so really I think it's only fair that those who bought this game liked the theater and really would expect some more maps\units on it. I'd be happy with an expansion of just units only and maybe a few more maps..no scenarios needed. We can make them. That way those who gnat something different would get it quicker.

What units and maps are you looking for? Do you have scenarios in mind? I might be able to come up with some more units.....

See my post 8 for some specific units.

Ok, there are some vehicles to be added. As for troops, SMG units are basically the 2-3-4 assault move Soviets. Paratroops could be ant type, I won't be able to add rules for para drops. Boards are kind of small for rocket launchers..... Let me see what I can pull together.

[aaatoysandmore]

ORIGINAL: Thomasew

I'll be extremely peeved if we get any more East Front expansions/addons. I bought HoS because of the Game System, which I like .. but, I rarely play it anymore. E.F. holds no interest for me. [>:]

We need new Theatres of War, .. not the same boring old thing (E.F.) with multiple addons. There are so many games available for the E.F., ... It's gotten beyond tedious now. [>:]


Tom

Agreed, my vote for Pacific theater.

[madDdog67]

Well, while we wait to see who's favorite theater gets done next (if at all), I think that if you (Mark and Tom) can develop the editor a bit to make it a tad more user friendly and make some of the other LnL maps available, some talented folks here would be more than happy to gen up a bunch of new content. Yeah, it would be "unofficial", but it would tide folks over until an expansion gets released somewhere down the road. And you could get all of us off your back for a while .

[wodin]

Bartheart..would love to see more leaders, mountain troops, ski troops, military police, Italians with armour, Hungarians with armour and Romanians with armour. Like to see early war and late war Inf types so the late war will be better than the early war ones.

Finally any major AFV used by either side over the course of the conflict.

[Barthheart]

ORIGINAL: wodin

Bartheart..would love to see more leaders, mountain troops, ski troops, military police, Italians with armour, Hungarians with armour and Romanians with armour. Like to see early war and late war Inf types so the late war will be better than the early war ones.

Finally any major AFV used by either side over the course of the conflict.

LOL! Well, I only have access to some of the published game stuff so no to most of what you just listed. [;)]

I do have more armour and some weapons I think... let me poke around this weekend and see what I can piece together.

[baloo7777]

Anything that adds to this game system is fine with me. I prefer the western front, but any units or maps would be great. I have been playing the new user created scenarios and look forward to more to come. [8D]

[wodin]

Cool!!

ORIGINAL: Barthheart

ORIGINAL: wodin

Bartheart..would love to see more leaders, mountain troops, ski troops, military police, Italians with armour, Hungarians with armour and Romanians with armour. Like to see early war and late war Inf types so the late war will be better than the early war ones.

Finally any major AFV used by either side over the course of the conflict.

LOL! Well, I only have access to some of the published game stuff so no to most of what you just listed. [;)]

I do have more armour and some weapons I think... let me poke around this weekend and see what I can piece together.

[Horvo]

For me it all depends on what is easiest and will come out the quickest. If using the existing LnL board games makes it much easier and faster to come out with a PC version, then do that. If there is no difference, then I would prefer different settings than already exist in the board games, since I have three of them already.

[benpark]

My interest is in first further expanding the East Front game-kit. I'd like to see both early war and late war (Budapest and Berlin in particular) squads and equipment added in one expansion.

After that, West Front- early war, then 1944-45.

I can't say I have any interest in modern conflict gaming at this scale. I would almost consider the Vietnam one, but asymmetrical tactical combat is my least favorite of genres. Fantasy wouldn't even be on my radar, and I wouldn't be interested in any game in that genre.

The engine is solid! No need to reinvent the wheel now. That's where a lot of "sequels" have trouble- adding lots of features and thus coding time. I think that "modules" containing maps and new units would do it nicely for me, and maybe a few of the module specific rules.

I think the game is in a great place to go forwards.

[76mm]

We need new Theatres of War, .. not the same boring old thing (E.F.) with multiple addons. There are so many games available for the E.F., ... It's gotten beyond tedious now.

Yeah, you're right, we definitely need some more games for Normandy and the Bulge...

If there is a problem with East Front games, it is the fact that in an effort to get people to buy them, devs focus on two battles--Stalingrad and Kursk, and that does get tedious.

[jonj01]

ORIGINAL: Barthheart




What units and maps are you looking for? Do you have scenarios in mind? I might be able to come up with some more units.....

East front, german and russian AFVs for 1941 and 1942, with those very few counters one would be able to make any scenario or campaign for the eastern front up until the battle for berlin...

[laska2k8]

ORIGINAL: Barthheart

ORIGINAL: wodin

Well you did buy an east front game...so really I think it's only fair that those who bought this game liked the theater and really would expect some more maps\units on it. I'd be happy with an expansion of just units only and maybe a few more maps..no scenarios needed. We can make them. That way those who gnat something different would get it quicker.

What units and maps are you looking for? Do you have scenarios in mind? I might be able to come up with some more units.....

those ones (better than..)[:D]

[fran52]

ORIGINAL: Barthheart

ORIGINAL: wodin

Bartheart..would love to see more leaders, mountain troops, ski troops, military police, Italians with armour, Hungarians with armour and Romanians with armour. Like to see early war and late war Inf types so the late war will be better than the early war ones.

Finally any major AFV used by either side over the course of the conflict.

LOL! Well, I only have access to some of the published game stuff so no to most of what you just listed. [;)]

I do have more armour and some weapons I think... let me poke around this weekend and see what I can piece together.

This is a good news.To translate some ASL scenario we need others AFV and weapon.Good work Bartheart!
Now i'm working on the maps for the "Agony of Doom" scenario.I need 2 counters,Jagdtiger and ISU152.Then i must undertand if i'm able to do all the work.
At the moment i try.

[zouave]

I'd say WWII Ardennes, and I say this from the perspective of someone who selfishly wants this system to thrive and grow. I think Ardennes gives it the best chance to do so. Why?

1. WWII seems to be the most popular wargmaing era. Vietnam and Cold War are more niche markets. And I'm guessing that Bugle games sell better than Pacific ones.

2. The US is the biggest wargame market, so it makes sense to do something with US troops this time.

3. I'm assuming most people who own HoS will buy an expansion, but are more likely to do so if it adds something they don't already have. They already have the East Front (I know, just one part, but still). Similarly, anyone who passed on HoS because of the subject might be enticed by a Bulge game.

4. This will give you a chance to showcase those beautiful Noville maps, which might also attract the eyes of potential buyers. For those who haven't seen the Noville maps, I'm posting a pic below.

5. Ardennes is a perfect campaign setting.

6. Ardennes gives you a chance to introduce a wide variety of units (from SS to Volksgrenadiers, paratroopers to line infantry, and even commandos) and equipment (Nebelwerfers, Me-262s).

But hell, I'll buy whatever you next produce.

[Charly G]

1st : East Front expansion with some new maps, some scenarios and many new materials and vehicles (41-45).
2nd : West front (44-45) Normandy.

[Barthheart]

ORIGINAL: laska2k4

ORIGINAL: Barthheart

ORIGINAL: wodin

Well you did buy an east front game...so really I think it's only fair that those who bought this game liked the theater and really would expect some more maps\units on it. I'd be happy with an expansion of just units only and maybe a few more maps..no scenarios needed. We can make them. That way those who gnat something different would get it quicker.

What units and maps are you looking for? Do you have scenarios in mind? I might be able to come up with some more units.....

those ones (better than..)[:D]

Those are very good scans. Noville is one of my favourite modules.

[Hexagon]

Well, i am thinking in buy HoS, i like the front and game looks great even when i am not a "table guy".

Future??? well, all depends of what they want do for me is something like:

1-expansions or new games??? for me this is critical, how expand the LnL PC universe??? every front with a title where use DLC/expansion system to immprove or you divide titles by periods??? i think WWII, modern hypotetical, Vietnam...

2-if you plan a title by front using DLCs to expand i think is better move to a new front over add an expansion to HoS, there is time to expand the first title and for me is more interesting have a 2nd or even a 3rd title to open the options to work in content (you know HoS, a west base title, desert warfare, Pacific...).

3-Time... what is faster to do??? improve HoS or release a new title??? if you need a lot to have a new front covered maybe add something expanding HoS before release of a new front is an option to keep it moving.

My personal preference... cover a new front in WWII, before jump into modern, expand the WWII options is interesting with this you can work over the WWII serie with lower projects (DLCs) and you can work in something bigger like new fronts in WWII or other periods, i dont know if you can at same time have a low priority project based in expand a released title and at same time work in a total new title.

I think in or a desert title or Pacific over west, west for me is overexploited in 44-45 [>:]

[Barthheart]

ORIGINAL: Hexagon

Well, i am thinking in buy HoS, i like the front and game looks great even when i am not a "table guy".

Future??? well, all depends of what they want do for me is something like:

1-expansions or new games??? for me this is critical, how expand the LnL PC universe??? every front with a title where use DLC/expansion system to immprove or you divide titles by periods??? i think WWII, modern hypotetical, Vietnam...

2-if you plan a title by front using DLCs to expand i think is better move to a new front over add an expansion to HoS, there is time to expand the first title and for me is more interesting have a 2nd or even a 3rd title to open the options to work in content (you know HoS, a west base title, desert warfare, Pacific...).

3-Time... what is faster to do??? improve HoS or release a new title??? if you need a lot to have a new front covered maybe add something expanding HoS before release of a new front is an option to keep it moving.

My personal preference... cover a new front in WWII, before jump into modern, expand the WWII options is interesting with this you can work over the WWII serie with lower projects (DLCs) and you can work in something bigger like new fronts in WWII or other periods, i dont know if you can at same time have a low priority project based in expand a released title and at same time work in a total new title.

I think in or a desert title or Pacific over west, west for me is overexploited in 44-45 [>:]

How about West Front 1939-40?