Scenarios You Would Like to See

Redleg · Post by **Redleg** » Sun Nov 04, 2001 9:42 pm

Next question:
If you know about an interesting battle that hasn't shown up as a scenario, how about posting it here?

I can only make so many scenarios but I am sure other designers will be interested in ideas also.

m10bob · Post by **m10bob** » Sun Nov 04, 2001 9:54 pm

Very major battle in the Normandy campaign and has not been done since Wild Bill took a stab at it back in the days of "SP"..(I say "stab" because the orig SP engine just was not up to the standards nor abilities of SPWAW..)..The battle i refer to is ST. LO...It was a city that HAD to be taken before Patton could set off on operation Cobra....It was all that Caen might have been for the Brits....Defended by crack Fallshirmjager,SS,Wehrmacht,the whole shebang....and thanks for asking...........imho this would also make a great starting point for a Cobra campaign! <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

Wild Bill · Post by **Wild Bill** » Sun Nov 04, 2001 10:12 pm

Allow me to encourage you to support Redleg's efforts. Over the last year, I've seen John hone his scenario design skills to a razor edge.

You will like his work. He creates hard, but quite different and very interesting battles.

He has not disappointed me yet. I like his work. I know you will too.

WB

Gen.Hoepner · Post by **Gen.Hoepner** » Sun Nov 04, 2001 10:32 pm

Fpr example tha fallshirmjager assault at corinto's bridge when the brits were retreating from greece.....
or a battle on the Albert channel in '40 or Mainstein's 38 korp advance towards the Seine in early june 40.....something like that......just ideas....^__^

Gen.Hoepner · Post by **Gen.Hoepner** » Sun Nov 04, 2001 10:40 pm

or......the battles for the demjansk salient(i wanted to create some scens of that based of Carrell's book Hitler moves east,but never found the time),especially those where took part the 126o or the 290o near Rossino belonging to the 2o Army corps in 17 febb 1943....
or ....well i'll try to figure out something more...just let me think^__^

Fabs · Post by **Fabs** » Sun Nov 04, 2001 11:18 pm

The taking of Centuripe, in Sicily, by the Irish Brigade of 78th Inf. Div. (Ideal to exploit the new capabilities of Ectizen's mountain-making programs).

78th Division's crossing of the Simeto at Carcaci, Sicily.

American assaults around Troina, in Sicily.

Streetfighting between Canadian infantry and German Fallshirmjaegers at Ortona, Italy.

Several British, Canadian and American river crossings on different Italian fronts.

16th Panzer's counterattacks against the British landing at Termoli.

British and American attacks on Monte Camino, just before Cassino.

American assault on St. Pietro Infine.

British Commandos vs. 12SS panzer Hitlerjugend at Rots, Normandy.

British 50th infantry vs. Panzer Lehr around Tilly sur Seulles.

Canadian assault on St. Contest against 12SS Panzer Hitlerjugend.

American operations in Lorraine and around Metz in Autumn of '44.

British assaults in the Reichswald, early 1945.

These are just some of the ideas that I would like to develop if I had the time. So far I've only managed one Normandy scenario and the maps for one of the Sicilian scenarios.

If a better designer than me with more time wants to have a go at any of these, I've got tons of reserach material available.

RockinHarry · Post by **RockinHarry** » Sun Nov 04, 2001 11:42 pm

Originally posted by Fabs:

Streetfighting between Canadian infantry and German Fallshirmjaegers at Ortona, Italy.

American operations in Lorraine and around Metz in Autumn of '44.

British assaults in the Reichswald, early 1945.

These are just some of the ideas that I would like to develop if I had the time. So far I've only managed one Normandy scenario and the maps for one of the Sicilian scenarios.

If a better designer than me with more time wants to have a go at any of these, I've got tons of reserach material available.

Still on my to do list Fabs, especially the Reichswald and Veritable battles. I´ll mail you if things are getting hot. Currently I have not more time than for testing other guys scenarios, but that might change the next couple of weeks, once V7 is finally out.

I also would like to see more winter battles. Good opportunity to use my winter buildings! <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">
...and snowy mountains made with ectizens mountanizer. <img src="eek.gif" border="0">

_________
Harry

RichardTheFirst · Post by **RichardTheFirst** » Sun Nov 04, 2001 11:59 pm

Some of these suggested battles are probably already covered, but I haven't seen all the scenarios texts in detail. Just erase what is already done <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

- Sword Beach - D-Day
- Kursk Tank Battle
- The Abbey of Monte Cassino
- Tobruk
- The charge of the Polish Lancers
- Dunkirk
- The german gliders landing on top of the belgium (dutch?) forts at the Blitzkrieg
- German Airborne operation at Crethe
- Eindhoven bridge as part of the Market Garden operation
- Bastogne at the Battle for the Bulge
- A major scenario with the 101st USA Airborne at D-Day -1 showing how scattered they were.
- a small scenario at Norway with those Commandos that went after the "heavy water" factory with partisan help
- a small scenario to simulate the liberation of Auchwitz or other extermination camp. (sad theme but it should give a very cool map).
- this one is crazy <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> : a POW escape from Colditz (another cool map)

Well, just some ideas. Again my appologies if I'm mentioning something already done.

"Vini, vidi, vinci" - Iulius Cæsar

Redleg · Post by **Redleg** » Mon Nov 05, 2001 3:49 am

Lots of ideas. Some I thought of before and haven't done. Some have been done by others. Some will be done by me.

Great ideas. It might be fun to try to make a scenario based on someone else's ideas and preferences rather than my own.

I keep wondering how I could make the destruction of the Belgian fortresses work right.

The theme for Raiders and Arsenal in December is "What might have, could have been" type battles. I am thinking hard about those right now.

Band of Brothers - 6 scenarios based at closely as I could make them on the battles in the TV series will be at the Raiders site soon. Some are pretty difficult, some are pretty hard to win. Tried to make them as close as possible. Quite a challenge. 6 small battles - mostly about 10-15 turns, company-sized. You can replace Lt. Winters and lead Easy as far as Market Garden. He was a hell of a leader and I am sure you will do well.

Redleg · Post by **Redleg** » Mon Nov 05, 2001 3:52 am

Winter battles - Raiders theme this month is Parachute operations. Try the "Behind German Lines" scenario based on an actual battle in January, 1942. Lead a brave Soviet paracute battalion as it raids a German railhead and destroys 28 tanks and 2 choo-choo trains. It was about -40 and in heavy snow.

Redleg · Post by **Redleg** » Mon Nov 05, 2001 3:55 am

Sicily:
Try the Raiders for a fight between the British Red Devils and FJ near Primosole Bridge.

Nasty little night-fight.

Russia: Take command of a pzGren company and track down Soviet parachutists who are victimized by a bad jump in 1943. Soviets had a lot of trouble getting it right.

Historically based. Not real large. A lot of Soviets paras and partisans to track down and destroy.

Coming soon at the Raiders. Don't miss it.

Gen.Hoepner · Post by **Gen.Hoepner** » Mon Nov 05, 2001 4:32 am

and what about creating some scenarios related on some great divisions or battallions?For ex. something like you ,redleg,did with the 250th spanish div....so that we could have our scenario list divided in the history of different famous divisions...i hope i explained clearly enough.....
Great topic !!!

RichardTheFirst · Post by **RichardTheFirst** » Mon Nov 05, 2001 6:29 am

Originally posted by Gen.Hoepner:
and what about creating some scenarios related on some great divisions or battallions?For ex. something like you ,redleg,did with the 250th spanish div....so that we could have our scenario list divided in the history of different famous divisions...i hope i explained clearly enough.....
Great topic !!!

I second that motion: some great divisions are very known, like the American Big Red One and the Screaming Eagles from the 101st Airborne, or the German 5th Panzer, etc, etc. I have a book only about the SS Leibestandarte Adolf Hitler (don't know if I writed it well) the personnal guards from the fuhrer. I promise you: they were one of the elite divisions of the war. All with more than 1,80m height. They participated at the blietzkrieg, Jugoslavia, Greece, Russia, Battle for Berlin, etc. Fascinating reading...

"Vini, vidi, vinci" - Iulius Cæsar

RichardTheFirst · Post by **RichardTheFirst** » Mon Nov 05, 2001 6:59 am

One more idea for an hipotetical scenario: American Amphibious Landings in Japan. The Americans had a major plan for this and, until the Atomic Bombs were launched, a lot of people was convinced that this would be true, with a major loss of american lives. The Japanese had already his defense of the beaches organized with civilian participation kamikaze style. I think it is an interesting subject.

"Vini, vidi, vinci" - Iulius Cæsar

RolandRahn_MatrixForum · Mon Nov 05, 2001 12:21 pm

Originally posted by RichardTheFirst:
One more idea for an hipotetical scenario: American Amphibious Landings in Japan. The Americans had a major plan for this and, until the Atomic Bombs were launched, a lot of people was convinced that this would be true, with a major loss of american lives. The Japanese had already his defense of the beaches organized with civilian participation kamikaze style. I think it is an interesting subject.

"Vini, vidi, vinci" - Iulius Cæsar

I'm currently working on a campaign with this topic - however, I was unable to get topographical maps of the areas and it won't be very close to the historical planning (an USMC force taking part in both operations Olympic and Coronet, e.t.c.), so don't expect too much.

Kind regards,
Roland

dacasals · Post by **dacasals** » Mon Nov 05, 2001 12:48 pm

Hello

What about the Ardenes battles. Is there any done?. May be, is there some done. It will be fantastic to play like Skorzeny with camoufled pathers. I readed a couple of books about the Ardenes, and there are some interesting scenarios that will be great to play. I really can't remember now historic dates and names. I should check the books to be more explicit.

Redleg · Post by **Redleg** » Mon Nov 05, 2001 12:58 pm

I am very glad I decided to ask you guys rather than sit here in a vacuum guessing.

Skorzeny: The Arsenal will have the destruction of Skorzeny's "Brigade" during the Bulge. They ran into a company of the 99th Norwegian battalion who were trained commandos, too.

So it is Norwegian commandos vs. Skorzeny's boys who had 4 Panthers covered with sheet metal and painted to look like Shermans. Otto also had several captured U.S half-tracks.

Lots of historic battles soon from the Raiders and from the Arsenal.

Gen.Hoepner · Post by **Gen.Hoepner** » Mon Nov 05, 2001 1:25 pm

I think there's something about the Buldge in the scens list...or probably i have DLed from Fabio's site or the Arsenal.....
Yes,i really think that "scenarios-divisions" is a good way to perseverate:Yesterday night,just before going to sleep,i read a very good chapter from Mainstein's Lost Victories,where the Field-marshal talked about the Death's Head SS division in the first stages of Barbarossa,when it was attached to Leeb's group in the north.....good stuff...also remember to have read many other thoings about that division in Carrel's books......

Don Doom · Post by **Don Doom** » Mon Nov 05, 2001 4:06 pm

Morning Redleg.
If I told what I would like to see, I would have to kill you after since they are on my to do list. <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">
Right now I am finishing up a small but nasty battle between a plt of jagdtigers of the sch. panzerjager abt 653 and a US armored combat group.
based on a real battle where the jagdtigers opened up at 3-5km and distroyed the US armored col. without any losses. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

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RichardTheFirst · Post by **RichardTheFirst** » Mon Nov 05, 2001 4:34 pm

Redleg, since you seemed interested in that fortress in Belgium I have a resumed story for you, this was extracted from "Blitzkrieg" - Pierre Dupuis:

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At 4:45 of May 10th, 1940, sinister pairs of metal birds roar in the pure dawn of a new day of spring.

Some belgian watchers saw astonished the "Junker 52" separate from the gliders they were dragging.

Nine shadows with huge wings made their way silently to the ground, heading for the Albert canal and the Fortress of Eben-Emael, the most impressive fortress of the belgian defense.

Inside each of these silent shadows were eight Airborne Sappers armed to the teeth, crouched over hundreds of kilograms of explosives... and these men wear german uniforms.

Inside the fortress, in one of the AA posts: "ALARM! PLANES ARE ARRIVING" "IT'S.... GLIDERS! GERMANS! FIRE! FIRE!"

Too late... This modern Troy horses had already land on the very roof of the fortress which the belgians had neglect against such a daring strike...

Coming out of its bellies, the sappers of Captain Koch, including the pilots, launch themselves running over their objectives... "Posts 3, 4 and 5 - over here!"; "Posts 6, 7 and 8 - follow me!"

In ten minutes, nine defense posts of the fortress were out of action... In the barracks, in the towers, defenders died without understanding...

For the Germans, on the contrary, there were pleasant surprises. "After all these two AA towers are fakes! They are made of tin!""Let's save the explosives then! We'll use it in another day"

The ground attack troops could then cross the canal in their inflatable rafts... The fortress was annihilated from the inside e three bridges were intact in the hands of the german airborne troops.

The 750 defenders of Eden-Emael, disarmed, surrendered quickly... except for 23 deaths... only 6 germans were shot down.

This fantastic success had also a comic element: The commando assistant-leader, Major Witzig, could not participate in the attack! The cable of his glider broke over Germany... the craft landed on a field. And he had to wait for three hour for a "Junker 52" to come and get him... "SCHWEINEREIN!" he shouted furiously.
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I hope you liked it. If you decide to include this or part of this in the scenario introduction please include my name <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

"Vini, vidi, vinci" - Iulius Cæsar