Update SPWAW OOB's

bchapman · Post by **bchapman** » Wed Feb 12, 2003 10:55 am

I just noticed this file on the ftp site. What is it and what does it affect?
Thanks,
Rebelbug

Supervisor · Post by **Supervisor** » Thu Feb 13, 2003 1:00 am

They update the order of battle historical qualities for the effected contries, trying to bring their historical value to as close as possible. They were updated by Bryan Melvin and blessed and posted by David Heath so these updated ones are as close to official as we're going to get. Make back ups of the originals and extract these into the C:\MatrixGames\Steel Panthers World at War\ directory overwritting existing files after you backed up the originals.

bchapman · Post by **bchapman** » Thu Feb 13, 2003 1:57 am

Thanks Gmenfan,
Is there a document or website showing what the changes are?
Rebelbug

Supervisor · Post by **Supervisor** » Thu Feb 13, 2003 4:42 am

I'm requesting one from Bryan, this caught my by surprise so I had to ask David what he new about it. Once I get a list of changes I will post them.

bchapman · Post by **bchapman** » Thu Feb 13, 2003 5:11 am

Thank you sir!
You are a credit to the Matrix Staff.

KG Erwin · Post by **KG Erwin** » Thu Feb 13, 2003 5:38 am

Yeah, I want to see the list of changes before I install these, too. I made some alternative German and USMC OOBs which I'll be sure to backup before installing this. In any case, the simple fact that these were still "in the loop" says a lot for the dedication of David in the hoary old SPWaW. BTW, unzip these into a new folder first. To be safe, check the date on these files before you overwrite your old ones.

tracer · Post by **tracer** » Thu Feb 13, 2003 9:04 am

Probably a good idea to mention that you should not download this OOB set if you have H2H installed (they should only be used with SPWAW v7.1).

Orzel Bialy · Post by **Orzel Bialy** » Thu Feb 13, 2003 9:29 am

is on its way from Bryan.

BryanMelvin · Post by **BryanMelvin** » Thu Feb 13, 2003 9:56 am

What changes were made - good question

Rockin Harry Updated oob 86 and added a few new toys in it for scenario design - some of these are experimental.

Lend Lease equipment set to match in allied nations

The Nations Squads weapon mix have been adjusted to provide more realism.

PF, Pchrk, Baz, Piat should have HE as well as HEAT

Some of the Nation's Formations were cleaned up. Example Italian Infantry Platoon no longer carries hoards of Brix's

Larger Tanks and late war year Tanks can now carry full Squads

USMC oob - the Amtrack error is fixed that prevented these from showing up in game or oob menu. USMC Trucks fixed too.

Several Artillery Gun Ranges for Off Map Atrillery were off. These should be fixed. If you find something missed. Let me know.

German Glider should be able to carry 10 men as it did.

Overall, you may not notice much has changed unless you design scenarios or play battle games. I suggest you look at Tanks and see how many men they can carry and look at Infantry units.

Just note - Not all Tanks can carry a full squad only a few. The T34 can as it moves thru the war years - older model T34's still carry 8 men while newer models carry a bit more

Have fun and keep me posted on what you find! Bugs, Graphic errors, etc.

These oobs will not change any scenarios or games made in version 7.0 builds.

Supervisor · Post by **Supervisor** » Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:04 am

Thanks for the insight. I'll keep this thread on a sticky for a while.
Gamers please post your inputs/comments good or bad and when we have enough reasonable request changes, then these guys can make the necessary corrections and post them for all of us to use. Keep up the great work.

RayM · Post by **RayM** » Fri Feb 14, 2003 9:25 am

I downloaded the update and was wondering if I they should go in the \oob subdirectory vice C:\MatrixGames\Steel Panthers World at War\ as stated in the thread. I looked at the SPWAW level and to my surprise, I found some from 24 March, 19 May and 7 June 2002. Should I move these into \Oob? Or just delete?

Thanks.

Ray

BryanMelvin · Post by **BryanMelvin** » Fri Feb 14, 2003 10:16 am

Originally posted by RayM
I downloaded the update and was wondering if I they should go in the \oob subdirectory vice C:\MatrixGames\Steel Panthers World at War\ as stated in the thread. I looked at the SPWAW level and to my surprise, I found some from 24 March, 19 May and 7 June 2002. Should I move these into \Oob? Or just delete?

Thanks.

Ray

I would create a New Folder in the Spwaw folder and name it - Old 7.1 oobs - and then cut and paste all the 7.1 oobs currently in the spwaw folder into it. Then place the new revised oobs you downloaded from here in spwaw folder. This way, you have both if and when needed.

Reg · Post by **Reg** » Fri Feb 14, 2003 11:44 am

Or you can use the OOB Manager utility by Jerry Heintz to simply switch any number of OOB sets at the click of a button.

I have a copy (2.5MB) but does anyone know where it is currently hosted on the Internet for anyone else who wants it. I went looking to see if it was still available but was unable to find a download site. IIRC, it used to be on the authors site.

Cheers,
Reg.

bchapman · Post by **bchapman** » Sun Feb 16, 2003 9:03 am

Reg,
Here is the link for the OOB Manger's author site:OOB Manager

Supervisor · Post by **Supervisor** » Sun Feb 16, 2003 9:31 am

Here is he link to these updated OOB's. It got broken in my first message so I am reposting it.

Updated SPWAW OOB's

RayM · Post by **RayM** » Mon Feb 17, 2003 1:47 am

Thanks for the suggestions. I saved the oob files (28 total) that were in \SPWAW and extracted the new download into the folder. I've left the \SPWAW\OOB folder alone, but I am still curious about it. Thanks also for the OOBManager. I'll take a look at it.

Ray

Supervisor · Post by **Supervisor** » Mon Feb 17, 2003 10:07 am

RayM: The SPWAW\OOB folder is a sign of things past, it was used in older version of SPWAW as a place for us to post changes about the OOB's in a text format. It serves no real purpose anymore.

BryanMelvin · Post by **BryanMelvin** » Mon Feb 17, 2003 10:19 pm

Please note that these OOBs are a teaser for the real update to come within the next few weeks and David Heath will announce the final Official OObs when these are ready.

So, enjoy these as you may. They will work with all scenarios built in versions 7.0.

I will keep you posted on OOB Final official Matrix version as we move along and finish these up.

gnoccop · Post by **gnoccop** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 5:06 am

Thankyou BryanMelvin for your work and dedication to SPWAW!!!

RayM · Post by **RayM** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 6:02 am

Thanks gmenfan for the info.

Ray

Update SPWAW OOB's

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