OT- USS Wahoo found

[RevRick]

I just got an enewsletter from Military.com that stated that the wreckage of the Wahoo has been found, and identified.

http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,118115,00.html?ESRC=navy.nl

For us history nuts, this is worth the read.

Sound Taps.

[rtrapasso]

ORIGINAL: RevRick

I just got an enewsletter from Military.com that stated that the wreckage of the Wahoo has been found, and identified.

http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,118115,00.html?ESRC=navy.nl

For us history nuts, this is worth the read.

Sound Taps.

Don't think it is OT - and somehow i hadn't seen that yet... thanks, Rev!!! [&o] [&o] [&o]

[seydlitz_slith]

Thanks for the link.  I went to warfish.com from the link on the site, and viewed the Wahoo pics. There were several amazing shots. The ones that affected me the most were the two taken by the Japanese during the attack on Wahoo. These show the oil slick on the surface that essentially telegraphed her movements as she tried to escape. It also showed the three escorts taking turns making runs at the head of the oil slick.  The other dramatic photos were those of the aerial bomb damage to the rear half of the conning tower.  Seeing this damage, I have to ask myself whether or not Morton and most of the conning tower team were alive or dead after the hit.  If the access hatch between the conning tower and control room were open as normal, then that may have flooded as well during the bomb hit.

[rtrapasso]

i checked out some of the links, including the Wahoo "home page":

http://www.emackinnon.com/wahoo-home-frame.html

There is a Wahoo "reference library" at the site, that curiously does not include one of the best first-hand accounts of submarine warfare i've read (and i've read a bunch of them) - "War Fish" by George Grider, who was an officer on the Wahoo and went on to command USS Flasher. Grider recounts his experiences on the Wahoo.

i had read the book about 5 times in my youth, and was absolutely floored when i was working at Maid of the Mist (at Niagara Falls) and met one of the owners - George Grider, whom my father was acquainted with. [X(]

[rtrapasso]

The pic Seydlitz mentioned...

[rtrapasso]

and another one...

[niceguy2005]

What a great read. Thanks RevRick

[ChezDaJez]

Coordinated attacks by ships and aircraft normally meant death for a sub. Given that oil slick and the fact the water depth was less than 300 feet meant her chances of escape were extremely poor. R.I.P.

Chez

[MkXIV]

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

i checked out some of the links, including the Wahoo "home page":

http://www.emackinnon.com/wahoo-home-frame.html

There is a Wahoo "reference library" at the site, that curiously does not include one of the best first-hand accounts of submarine warfare i've read (and i've read a bunch of them) - "War Fish" by George Grider, who was an officer on the Wahoo and went on to command USS Flasher. Grider recounts his experiences on the Wahoo.

i had read the book about 5 times in my youth, and was absolutely floored when i was working at Maid of the Mist (at Niagara Falls) and met one of the owners - George Grider, whom my father was acquainted with. [X(]

I'll put that book on my Chrismas list. Thanks rtrapasso[;)]

[Grotius]

Thanks for the link. Not off-topic at all. A pretty moving story.

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: MkXIV

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

i checked out some of the links, including the Wahoo "home page":

http://www.emackinnon.com/wahoo-home-frame.html

There is a Wahoo "reference library" at the site, that curiously does not include one of the best first-hand accounts of submarine warfare i've read (and i've read a bunch of them) - "War Fish" by George Grider, who was an officer on the Wahoo and went on to command USS Flasher. Grider recounts his experiences on the Wahoo.

i had read the book about 5 times in my youth, and was absolutely floored when i was working at Maid of the Mist (at Niagara Falls) and met one of the owners - George Grider, whom my father was acquainted with. [X(]

I'll put that book on my Chrismas list. Thanks rtrapasso[;)]

You met George Grider? Wow. Speaking of books, I have a 1st edition "Wake of the Wahoo". Not sure if it is worth anything like my 1st edition "Old Man and the Sea" but they are great to collect.

[rtrapasso]

ORIGINAL: MkXIV

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

i checked out some of the links, including the Wahoo "home page":

http://www.emackinnon.com/wahoo-home-frame.html

There is a Wahoo "reference library" at the site, that curiously does not include one of the best first-hand accounts of submarine warfare i've read (and i've read a bunch of them) - "War Fish" by George Grider, who was an officer on the Wahoo and went on to command USS Flasher. Grider recounts his experiences on the Wahoo.

i had read the book about 5 times in my youth, and was absolutely floored when i was working at Maid of the Mist (at Niagara Falls) and met one of the owners - George Grider, whom my father was acquainted with. [X(]

I'll put that book on my Chrismas list. Thanks rtrapasso[;)]

The book is long out of print, but you can get it on the net, i think...

[Brady]

I have O'Kanes Book on the Wahoo, and Of Course His Book on the Tang, the Later Is a better book of course, one of the most moving Sub Books I have ever read, I could Never bring myself to read the last chapter in theat book, I read it several times when I was younger, then Finial in my Early 20's I did read the finial Pages detailing the end of the Tang, I wept as I did very sad stuff.

Wahoo, of corse one of the most famious US subs for various reasions was also noted for comiting what would of been a War crime had it been done by an Axis Sub.:

p.153 WAHOO, The Patrools of Americas most Famious WW2 Submarine, By Richard H. O'Kane.

After Torepdoing a Seiwa Maru Class Transport Mush Mortain Orderd "Battle Stations man Both Gun's"

" I'll order a single four inch-round at the largerest craft, and we'll continue in to see if we draw any return fire....Machine Guns, it'll be your job to chase the troops out of their boats, and Cheif Carr (speaking directly to the 4 inch gun captain) you smash up the baots, their is only time for a single pass so use maximume rate of fire. Besides the deck gun we had one 20mm Cannon ad two BAR's, all maned and ready....Wahoos fire , all to starboard was methodical, the small guns sweeping from abeam forward like fire hosses cleaning a streat. The japanese troops, in Khaki with shorts and all whearing life jackets, sought safty in the seas as the deck gun demolished their boats"

O'Kane states that the resioning was that the Troopps in the Life boats could of been rescued and that they were compeled to kill them to prevent this, though couriosly he also states that they dident realy try and shoot at the troops specificaly just their boats, yet he also claimes that some were undoubtly killed in so doing....

[Rainerle]

ORIGINAL: Brady



Wahoo, of corse one of the most famious US subs for various reasions was also noted for comiting what would of been a War crime had it been done by an Axis Sub.:

It is a war crime, just an unprosecuted one ....

[juliet7bravo]

xxx

[MarcA]

ORIGINAL: Rainerle

ORIGINAL: Brady



Wahoo, of corse one of the most famious US subs for various reasions was also noted for comiting what would of been a War crime had it been done by an Axis Sub.:

It is a war crime, just an unprosecuted one ....

Shooting of sailors and men in the water became, if not common practice, then at least not unusual, for both sides during the war. With captains in both navys admitting to have done so.

Though there was still some men who didn't become so dehumanised by the conflict, take the recent story on the board about the heroic actions of the USS Johnston and the salute of the Japanese to the crew in the water once the destroyer had finally been sunk.

[Oleg Mastruko]

ORIGINAL: juliet7bravo

Speaking of war crimes...has there been anything further on the body from the HMAS Sydney (on C-mas Island?) they just exhumed with the possible bullet in its skull?

Any link to this story??

[The Duke]

ORIGINAL: mantill

ORIGINAL: Rainerle

ORIGINAL: Brady



Wahoo, of corse one of the most famious US subs for various reasions was also noted for comiting what would of been a War crime had it been done by an Axis Sub.:

It is a war crime, just an unprosecuted one ....

Shooting of sailors and men in the water became, if not common practice, then at least not unusual, for both sides during the war. With captains in both navys admitting to have done so.

Though there was still some men who didn't become so dehumanised by the conflict, take the recent story on the board about the heroic actions of the USS Johnston and the salute of the Japanese to the crew in the water once the destroyer had finally been sunk.

There is only 1 documented case of a U-boat machine gunning helpless men at sea....it may have been more common in the Pacific, but the German U-boats handled themselves with uncommon professional conduct. On many occasions even dropped off supplies and food to sailors in the water.