When does Singapore usually fall?

[Crimguy]

I usually lose it after January, 42. Sheesh. 57k dead, wounded and captured.

01/25/42
Ground combat at Singapore
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 86930 troops, 565 guns, 312 vehicles, Assault Value = 1618
Defending force 31466 troops, 150 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 368
Japanese max assault: 3020 - adjusted assault: 1641
Allied max defense: 346 - adjusted defense: 350
Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Singapore base !!!
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 3 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed
Catalina I: 3 destroyed
Japanese ground losses:
1066 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 1
Allied ground losses:
57534 casualties reported
Guns lost 148
Vehicles lost 2

[Raverdave]

In my game against Luskan I am still holding out, it is the 7th of March'42.[:D]

[scott64]

In one of my PBEM it fell around Feb/March with over 88K in casualties. [X(] 

[scout1]

Depends alot on the strategy and tactics of BOTH sides.....

[Raverdave]

.......................either way my chaps are doing a stirling job.  Pip pip and all that.

[John 3rd]

I take it by the end of December 1941.  Usually I commit more troops then normal to the attack so I get it quicker.  Those troops then roll into Java. 
 
This is usually done at the expense of taking the Philippines with any quickness.  They can sit and wither on the vine...

[scott64]

Interesting 

[JeffroK]

I have had it last till Late Feb & Early March.
 
I flew and shipped in extra Supply, costs a few AK on your last run but IMHO worth it. I also fly/ship in extra Supply to Manila/Bataan.
 

[Yamato hugger]

Last game I played as allies, it fell before Hong Kong did before the end of Dec 41. I pulled every unit that was able to leave out.

[Przemcio231]

This is largly dependent on Jap. Strategy... if playing Unhistorical start Jap's can land in Mersing or Johore in force on turn one, with sufficient naval support to fend of Force Z Singers is a goner in the first week[:@]

[Sneer]

always conquered in dec 41 

[treespider]

I play a relatively historical game and usually take it around the beginning of February.

In my CHS game with Spence it fell Feb 2. Not sure what he did to add or subtract to it defense, although he did contest my advance down the peninsula.

[niceguy2005]

It depends greatly on what Japan does, but the allies can influence the outcome some. If Japan follows a historical start and the Allies don't heavily reinforce or resupply then end of Dec is about the best one can do. WIth lots of supply it could last until Feb or March. If Japan commits extra force or lands closer to Sing then less earlier.

[Nikademus]

April. Still hold'in. [:)]

[niceguy2005]

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

April. Still hold'in. [:)]

your opponent isn't trying hard enough then. [:'(]

[Hoplosternum]

Do many allied players commit extra troops?

I never had, but then I count myself lucky if I still hold it in February. I do run in extra supplies - or attempt too. Usually Singapore airfield gets closed early then the transport ships tend to be Nell and Betty fodder.

Also where do people defend? Everything back to Singapore as soon as possible?

And String do you land in extra places to take it in December, maybe stopping the allies getting everything back to Singapore? Or just move in with extra troops? Do you do this using the first day move or can this be done with the 'historic' positions? Cheers!

[niceguy2005]

I have only really played one PBEM where I had to defend Sing. Against the AI it is just different.

In a PBEM I would never commit extra troops its suicide. I try to resupply as best as I can. Once my AKs start sinking I run in Fast Transport destroyers to carry some supply. From Batavia it is a short jump for them to Sing.

You have to guage your opponents intentions and adjust to them. If he is clearly focused on Sing you do what you can with what you have got and prepare your defensive lines in Burma, India and Java. If his attention is diverted though and he isn't using overwhelming force then there is a chance to sneak in some resupply and some troops, or extra air power and really make it tough for him. IMO this is what is happening when you hear players say that they are still defending Sing into March or April. The Japanese player isn't using enough force. If I were a Japanese player this is the single most important place I would focus my effort the first 2-3 weeks of the war.

[Nikademus]

ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

April. Still hold'in. [:)]

your opponent isn't trying hard enough then. [:'(]

No....it's because i'm a BRILLIANT commander.

ttthhpppfffff......

[Terminus]

It's because of your legendary halitosis. The Japanese gas masks just melt...[:'(]

[Nikademus]

Go eat your yearly 29.5 lbs of candy lard-butt.