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RE: it goes on...

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Op report for the aerial engagments over Kweiyang today. We have a new leader in our top pilot list, it´s 4/44 and we now have two pilots with 15 kills. Sounds funny, doesn´t it. In stock, I would have 10 pilots with over 50 kills easily I guess, so looking at the overall picture, A2A in this Nikmod version works far better than stock. Unfortunetely there are also more and more British/Australian aces flying in China and due to me having missed the chance to take them all out sometime mid 42 when they were low experienced and flying Hurricanes, we now face squadrons flying Spitfires (we can deal with the Vb but the VIII is a killer) and pilots that probably have experience in the 80s due to having flown lots of ground strikes when they were still flying their Hurricanes.

Unfortunately, 12 months ago, I´ve thought the Chinese would be out of the war, until they started to kick thousands of Japanese av around, when we got our adjusted avs halved for being in an URBAN hex. I haven´t finished them off and haven´t put a lot of effort into it the last months but this has changed now. I will use the hammer again...

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RE: it goes on...

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Good news of the day, R&D of the Frank once again was succesful and the fighter is now due to 5/44. We have already advanced the production date of our new IJAAF fighter 3 months and this is very good news. This is only the second or third time I was able to advance an aircraft by three months in all my PBEM campaigns and I´ve done a lot of turns in the last five years. [:D] There´s the rumour that you can´t advance it by more than 3 months so we will see. Perhaps we will get the first fighters within this month, if not, then the first unit will be equipped with this fine aircraft within 4,5 weeks.

I´m tempted to wait 7 weeks until I knock out the remaining enemy aircraft in China. I guess we could reduce our losses by at least 30% if we swap out the Tonies with Franks. I will occasionally bomb Kweiyang to keep the airfield damaged and will take on the enemy´s fighters when we will have three or four Frank sentais. This will also be a good test, as fighting highly experienced Spitfire VIII groups will show us pretty fast if the Frank is competive or not.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/03/44

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 37


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 5000 feet

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Day Air attack on Blagoveshchensk , at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 44
A6M5 Zeke x 27
N1K1-J George x 43
J2M3 Jack x 176
J1N1-S Irving x 98
D4Y Judy x 27
A6M5c Zeke x 44
B5N Kate x 9
P1Y Frances x 159
Ki-61 Ic x 139

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 124

Aircraft Attacking:
31 x Ki-61 Ic bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Ulan-Ude , at 61,10


Allied aircraft
Yak-9D x 85
Pe-2 x 217


Allied aircraft losses
Pe-2: 3 destroyed, 21 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
118 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 72

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Pe-2 bombing at 16000 feet

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Day Air attack on 32nd Division, at 43,33


Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 30
B-25J Mitchell x 14


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet

British bombers attacking my troops at Kweiyang, the bombers are stationed at Chungking... I wouldn´t burn supplies using those bombers, on the other hand, Chinese units don´t need supplies anyway...

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Day Air attack on 26th Rifle Division, at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 26
A6M3a Zero x 27
P1Y Frances x 44

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet


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Day Air attack on TF at 17,28 [X(]


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIC x 15
P-40N Warhawk x 64 [X(][X(]


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Meizan Maru
AP Ural Maru
AP Ceylon Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire [8D]
AP Amakusa Maru
AP Bokuyo Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Beaufighter VIC bombing at 2000 feet
2 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet

now this was surprising... a convoy that has brought some troops to Madras was attacked by hordes of British and US fighter bombers. The enemy must have an awful bad experience as they missed one after another. I had no escorts in this TF and I thought my transports would be pretty much dead meat, but only a Beaufighter achieved a single 500lb bomb hit. That was really amazing to me. The TF will be four hexes further out in the Indian ocean and perhaps won´t be spotted anymore tomorrow.


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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 49285 troops, 528 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1021

Defending force 53152 troops, 30 guns, 151 vehicles, Assault Value = 1086



Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 43,33

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 109255 troops, 1345 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 2314

Defending force 83047 troops, 65 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1721



Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14188 troops, 460 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5418

Defending force 113659 troops, 68 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2839



Allied ground losses:
121 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8541 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1086

Defending force 52685 troops, 528 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1021


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RE: it goes on...

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/04/44

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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107


Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 31


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 5000 feet

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Day Air attack on Blagoveshchensk , at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
A6M5 Zeke x 27
N1K1-J George x 42
J2M3 Jack x 93
J1N1-S Irving x 97
D4Y Judy x 27
A6M5c Zeke x 47
P1Y Frances x 148
Ki-61 Ic x 103

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 209

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-61 Ic bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 56th Chinese Corps, at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 Ic x 10
Ki-49 Helen x 45

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
83 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet

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Day Air attack on 2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps, at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 Ic x 2
Ki-49 Helen x 33

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet

as you can see, we´re still flying ground attacks against the units at Kweiyang. That´s more or less funny, because while I think those strikes are useless, I´ve still ordered my bombers to fly...

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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 49266 troops, 528 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1020

Defending force 53092 troops, 30 guns, 152 vehicles, Assault Value = 1087



Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 43,33

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 109485 troops, 1353 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 2322

Defending force 83009 troops, 65 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1723



Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14130 troops, 455 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5511

Defending force 129338 troops, 65 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3370



Allied ground losses:
297 casualties reported

more and more Chinese units enter Kweiyang. We´ve spotted more than another dozen units marching South into Kweiyang. Guess in the end we will face more than 4000 Chinese av from units that are out of supply but still get an adjusted av ov more than 6.000. Just look at the laughable number of guns. There are over 40 Chinese units at Kweiyang already. Guess the average Chinese corps that is fighting me has something like one or two 80mm mortars... [8|] but don´t forget their sticks...

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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8525 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1087

Defending force 52646 troops, 528 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1020



Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported

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RE: it goes on...

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it seems to be an intense week, more action this turn...


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/05/44

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 145
J2M3 Jack x 44
J1N1-S Irving x 27
D4Y Judy x 51
A6M3a Zero x 27
B6N Jill x 34
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 35
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 67

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 67
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Blagoveshchensk , at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 47
A6M5 Zeke x 24
J2M3 Jack x 48
J1N1-S Irving x 71
D4Y Judy x 27
A6M5c Zeke x 48
Ki-61 Ic x 32

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 100

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-61 Ic bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 56th Chinese Corps, at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 Ic x 29
Ki-49 Helen x 63

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
46 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet

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Day Air attack on 22nd Chinese Corps, at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 Ic x 28
Ki-49 Helen x 50

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
124 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps, at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 Ic x 3
Ki-49 Helen x 44

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet

two out of three bases in China launched ground strikes, no enemy fighters present anymore. Looks like the losses within the enemy fighters were high enough to keep bigbaba from flying more LRCAP over Kweiyang...

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and the highlight of this turn...

Day Air attack on TF at 3,69

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 70
D4Y Judy x 77
B6N Jill x 130

Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
B6N Jill: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair IV: 14 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Shah, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Relentless, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Samphill, Bomb hits 1
AK Samoa
AK Samsurf, Torpedo hits 1


Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet

I´ve spotted a big TF (also spotted CVE Shah) when it was formed at Karachi. It was spotted at Karachi for at least two or three days and then it was spotted heading straight to the West moving away from Karachi. It then wasn´t hard to figure out that this TF would move South towards Australia (I was sure it wouldn´t be an invasion TF for Southern India and I was also sure it wouldn´t go to Ceylon as he would not dare to do this again). Hmmm.... let´s see. A TF made up by more than two dozen AKs or APs, probably with some DDs and a CVE that was spotted. Leaving Karachi, going West, then South, max speed two hexes per phase. Means that 2.5-3 weeks later this TF can be caught somewhere West of Timor. Send your carriers out early enough and you catch the TF somewhere West of Java. In this case we caught it West of Soerabaja in the middle of the Indian Ocean. This TF was twice spotted the last two days but for an unkknown reason my carriers did not launch a single strike. [8|] This must have alerted bigbaba as the TF then changed course from going South to going South West. And today we launch a full strike in the morning... so far so good...

but what do you think how I ticked out in front of my display when I saw 200 bombers going after the CVE when it only took 20 to sink it. Means I watched some 180 bombers failing to locate the CVE and returning home when there are at least three dozen other ships in this TF just nearby. I´m sorry, I know I used the word "stupid" quite often in this AAR already, but honestly, how stupid is it that a full strike turns back when they see a CVE sinking and leave the other ships alone? Stupid game design and one of the many oversights. It has been changed in AE I was told so this is one of the many improvements. It´s great when there are many people with common sense involved in a project, there were obviously not so many involved when WITP was designed. Or perhaps something like what is happening in this attack only strikes me. Perhaps I´m just a dumbass...

what has been interesting also is the fact that the CVE launched 14 out of 14 available fighters, a 100% Cap rate as usual. Now I don´t know how this TF really looks like, but I guess the CVE is the only ship that has an air search radar (if it even has one). Nevertheless we see the usual Allied 100% Cap. The reason that those CVE Corsairs (probably newly arrived) had an experience of something like 50-60 and my Zeke pilots were above 85 made it a pretty one sided engagement. We lost two Zeke pilots though.



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Day Air attack on TF at 3,69

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 14
B6N Jill x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
CVE Shah, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

more of the same...

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Day Air attack on TF at 3,69

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 9
D4Y Judy x 23
B6N Jill x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
CVE Shah, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Mandalay, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Samharle, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Quality


Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

wow, we actually bomb three other ships. 25 bombers nevertheless turned back because Shah already sunk...

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and the afternoon phase...

Day Air attack on TF at 3,69

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 85
D4Y Judy x 89
B6N Jill x 137

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CVE Shah, on fire, heavy damage
DD Quality, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Redoubt
DD Rapid, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Samcalia, Torpedo hits 1
DD Quilliam, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Samfield, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Samtampa, Torpedo hits 1, on fire


Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet

this time only 180 instead of 200 bomber tried to attack the already sunk CVE Shah... SOOOOOO STUPID!!!!!!!! There are so many deficiencies in this game it´s everytime again a world wonder that so many hard core players have been playing this game for soooo long...

so the situation is as follows... we meet an enemy TF (we´ve spotted dozens of ships), launch two full strikes and sink one CVE and one AK and that´s it. This not because all of our elite bomber crews missed their targets, no, they decided to turn around because it´s not worth to attack AKs that are fully loaden with troops. Instead of completely annihilating this TF, we achieve NOTHING. I give a damn about sinking a lonely British CVE. But it´s once again a good prove how well the game works. There are so many borked routines it´s just a shame. If this CVE would not have been in this TF, I bet 90% of the ships would now be sunk or in sinking condition. If you know that and want to take every advantage you can then this is a good way to reduce the damage as much as possible, the worst case for you is to lose a CVE. I doubt that this was the reason for including this CVE though, he just wanted to bring it down to Australia to work together with the US CVEs. But the result of having this CVE in the TF is devasting... devastating for th outcome in regards of damaged done to the Allied. [8|]

Today we used up 23% of our max sorties, which means we can launch such strikes for ONE more day. As soon as your max sorties reach 50% you launch piece meal strikes, most of the time not worth it. 500 bomber sorties in one day against ONE single TF and all we get is one CVE and a rubbish AK. What do I expect tomorrow? I expect to see the DDs in the TF moving away at flank speed, being out of range tomorrow. The AKs will scatter and we will catch a couple of them and that´s it. It only depends on how many TFs bigbaba will form. I was hit by a stupid game routine (target routine) and if bigbaba forms three dozen single ship TFs then I will be hit by exactly this stupid game routine again as the engine just can´t handle it.

Even in real life, this TF would have been completely annihilated when 500 high experienced CV based bomber would have attacked three dozen AKs coupled with a single CVE and some DDs. Even the Zeroes would have strafed the AKs in real life I guess but I can´t blame the game not doing it as this is just not how it was programmed. Even if the Zeroes would dive down to strafe something, they would all turn back without doing anything because they would target the CVE that was sunk at 7 am, while hundreds of bombers still search for it at 4 pm.


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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 281257 troops, 2362 guns, 3286 vehicles, Assault Value = 5593

Defending force 128747 troops, 63 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3361

Japanese max assault: 6629 - adjusted assault: 2414

Allied max defense: 3036 - adjusted defense: 4165

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 6)


Japanese ground losses:
6384 casualties reported
Guns lost 115
Vehicles lost 75

Allied ground losses:
1920 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

to top off the day, we launch another attack at Kweiyang, seeing another one of the stupid results we are already used to. NO fort level was reduced (again!!!) and our adjusted av once again was a joke, just like the adjusted av of out of supply Chinese is a complete joke. I miss the words in English that I need to describe how WRONG this ground combat model is as we are speaking of troops that are OUT OF SUPPLY and WITHOUT ANY HEAVY WEAPONS LEFT!!! This is just plain wrong and Mr. G´s main advantage obviously is the fact that he desings niche games and the competitors (if there are any) don´t do it any better. [8|]

Those Chinese (in fact no matter if Chinese, Japanese, British, Russian, American, German or whatever) troops should have nearly no combat value at all. Giving them a 25% combat effectiveness due to being 100% out of supply is just stupid as this stupid factor still then gives them an adjusted av that is higher than their base av. And it´s not just stupid, it makes everything that "officials" posted on the forum ad absurdum. OR, mathematics are just different in the US compared to Europe. With European mathematics it´s quite hard to achieve those adjusted avs if the multipliers are what we have been told for five years already. We can only shake our head as the code will be kept hidden anyway, thus making it easier to complain but you´ll never know what really went wrong during coding (obviously a lot).

Time to retreat, rest and recover, bomb the airfield to prevent fort building, wait for another 300 av being starved, move in with 8.000 av again, get shot to pieces by even more starved defenders, reduce another three or four fort levels, move out, the whole circle again and in three months I will take out Kweiyang. Then move on to Kunming and start at step 1 as there will be again level 9 forts and a couple of thousand completely starved (but fully combat ready) Chinese av.



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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 49231 troops, 528 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1019

Defending force 52897 troops, 29 guns, 151 vehicles, Assault Value = 1087



Allied ground losses:
55 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 43,33

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 109471 troops, 1355 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 2324

Defending force 83316 troops, 64 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1728



Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8503 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1087

Defending force 52631 troops, 528 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1019




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RE: it goes on...

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what I expected to happen this turn, did happen... I´m not totally amused... [8|]


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/06/44

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 47
J2M3 Jack x 27
D4Y Judy x 27
A6M3a Zero x 27
G4M1 Betty x 53

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 54

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x J2M3 Jack bombing at 2000 feet

3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 25000 feet


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Day Air attack on Blagoveshchensk , at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 43
J2M3 Jack x 46
P1Y Frances x 162
Ki-61 Ic x 72

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 93

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-61 Ic bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 108th Region Fortress, at 65,32

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 113
D4Y Judy x 27
A6M3a Zero x 51
B6N Jill x 174

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x J2M3 Jack bombing at 2000 feet

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here we go...[8|]

Day Air attack on TF at 3,71

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 89
B6N Jill x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Samtampa, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Samburgh, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
80 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

as expected, today the enemy TF was split up in dozens of single ship TFs... but hey, there were alos a few TFs with two ships... [8|]


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Day Air attack on TF at 3,71

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 26

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Samtampa, on fire, heavy damage
AK Samburgh, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

oh how well the engine can handle it when a game exploiter forms up three dozen mini TFs... 141 aircraft (out of 450 in the whole CV TF) attacked those two AKs in the morning...

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,70

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 15
B6N Jill x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Redoubt, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 3,73

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Fal

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

this is what I particularly mean when I say "such game exploiting behaviour screws up the engine"... it just sucks... 1 bomber lol...

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Day Air attack on TF at 3,73

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Rocket, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 3,73

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Samur

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

this AK´s flak crew proved to be extremly well trained. 1 Jill shot down another 6 damaged. Not bad when 10 bombers attack... and miss... [:D]

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,67

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 86
B6N Jill x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Relentless, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

and it goes on... you may think one bomber was enough anyway, well, this DD was heavily damaged already... pm phase...

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,67

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 47

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
MSW Patna, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Rampur, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

one third of my total torpedo bombers went after two MSW...

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Day Air attack on TF at 3,73

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Samwater, Bomb hits 3, on fire
AK Samovar, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 3,73

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 25
B6N Jill x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 1 damaged
B6N Jill: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Samoa, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Samhain, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

very few ground losses all the time, but I guess that doesn´t matter anyway because all the troops are lost when the ship goes down... and the losses are not accounted as victory points. Still not accounted, what patch version was released already?

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Day Air attack on TF at 3,73

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Sambur, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Samtucky, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 7

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 3,73

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 23
B6N Jill x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Samlouis, Bomb hits 12, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
177 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

and that´s it... see below what we have spotted. And what we spot doesn´t mean that´s all that is there. I´m sure my funny opponent created more than two dozen single ship TFs... that sucks...

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why I call him my "funny opponent"? Because when he seeks a PBEM opponent then he wants to have this house rule (copied out of one of his opponent wanted threads):

no 1 ship TF-spamm to abuse the inability of the game engine when it comes on air attacks on multiple TFs what results in 100 bombers attacking one single AK for example

this is FUNNY for me, because one one side he wants to have such a hr (not valid in this PBEM) and on the other side he´s using one of the numero uno game exploits to get away and compensate weak game play.[8|]

In this PBEM there is a hr about not forming dozens of INVASION TFs [>:] to exploit the weak target routine and as you have to be a lawyer all the time when you challenge someone, this of course means he has NOT broken any hr. Except the fact that he´s constantly breaking the hr about aircraft stacking limits. [>:] I can only repeat myself, would this PBEM not already be at this stage of the war and wouldn´t there be the chance to see an amazing campaign through the late years (considering the moves of my opponent I have doubts about that already anyway) I would long have stopped it. Oh well, it´s just another thing I have to swallow. Everyone plays how he thinks he should play, if it´s a good move or a bad move, that´s something the AAR readers have to judge.

For me, sending a fat troop loaden TF (that has been spotted several times) down the Indian ocean without any serious covering force (he has enough CVEs and CVs to cover a troop convoy through this territory (he just has to use them) is just weak game play in every aspect. Of course exploiting the engine and forming dozens of single ship TFs that then are all going IN THE SAME HEX INTO THE SAME DIRECTION is just more of a prove of weak game play IMO. This what he may consider "scattering" is just a joke when he keeps all his ships together in the same hex moving together (perhaps even following each other [8|]). If he scatters his convoy and send out all the ships in a dozen different directions, moving 4 hexes a day can (perhaps) be considered scattering in game terms but what he is doing is just trying to get away with weak game play and a clear exploit of the engine. And the "funny" thing is that he even knows it. Oh well... it´s all just hot air and nothing more, the Allied are trashed anyway and it will be a pleasure to kick their arse during their next invasion. But perhaps we will then meet two dozen CVEs following each other in the same hex in single ship TFs and all are loaded up with Corsairs to have a 720 Corsair Cap. Oh wait, there´s the stacking rule for carrier based ac...


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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 49273 troops, 526 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1021

Defending force 52876 troops, 29 guns, 151 vehicles, Assault Value = 1087



Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 43,33

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 109604 troops, 1364 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 2330

Defending force 83233 troops, 63 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1739



Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8476 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1087

Defending force 52673 troops, 526 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1021




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There´s the rumour that you can´t advance it by more than 3 months so we will see. Perhaps we will get the first fighters within this month, if not, then the first unit will be equipped with this fine aircraft within 4,5 weeks.

Totally untrue Castor, planes can be R&D'ed much more than 3 months, because of a now "known" but previously unknown exploit, which I didn't realise until I had it happen to me, I got one plane more than a year advanced (Nemo's EA mod)...

As to your opponents play, while it is very very questionable and pretty much wrong IMO, I guess the positive way to look at it is that he fears you, knows he isn't as good as you and must act like this to defeat you even though he is playing as the Allies [8|]

Good luck
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ORIGINAL: n01487477
There´s the rumour that you can´t advance it by more than 3 months so we will see. Perhaps we will get the first fighters within this month, if not, then the first unit will be equipped with this fine aircraft within 4,5 weeks.

Totally untrue Castor, planes can be R&D'ed much more than 3 months, because of a now "known" but previously unknown exploit, which I didn't realise until I had it happen to me, I got one plane more than a year advanced (Nemo's EA mod)...

As to your opponents play, while it is very very questionable and pretty much wrong IMO, I guess the positive way to look at it is that he fears you, knows he isn't as good as you and must act like this to defeat you even though he is playing as the Allies [8|]

Good luck
--Damian--


Hi

didn´t know about this bug and hopefully I´m not doing anything to have it kick in. [&:] At the moment the R&D is at 614 ac per month (total production will be at something like 650-700) and this lead to three months acceleration so far. So perhaps it will even come online within the next weeks. Never achieved anything better than three months though and I also have never heard about a bug (thank god).
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I haven´t heard from my opponent for over a week. He told me he´s moving house but he would have his inet connection back within just a few days. I guess it takes longer or otherwise he´s dropped the game. I will wait another week for a reply, otherwise I´ll look for someone to take over the Allied.
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ORIGINAL: castor troy

I haven´t heard from my opponent for over a week. He told me he´s moving house but he would have his inet connection back within just a few days. I guess it takes longer or otherwise he´s dropped the game. I will wait another week for a reply, otherwise I´ll look for someone to take over the Allied.


I think you would have more chance of finding the Holy Grail........
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ORIGINAL: castor troy

I haven´t heard from my opponent for over a week. He told me he´s moving house but he would have his inet connection back within just a few days. I guess it takes longer or otherwise he´s dropped the game. I will wait another week for a reply, otherwise I´ll look for someone to take over the Allied.


I think you would have more chance of finding the Holy Grail........


Hi Paul

hehe, why do you think that? [;)]

Perhaps a solution would be to swap sides? Me taking over the Allied (and either proving that I´m just a loud dumbass or proving what I think in terms of the Allied are still far from being defeated) and someone else taking over the Japanese in perfect condition. Now that would be interesting too. Of course I would like to play on as the Japanese as I want to get the fruit I´ve planted.

edit: just rethought what I have written and this is of course BS as noone would take over the Japanese when I would know the password. Silly me...

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we´re back in action...


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/07/44

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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 Ic x 146
Ki-49 Helen x 351

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
403 casualties reported

Airbase hits 31
Airbase supply hits 14
Runway hits 196

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet

we launch a massive strike in China. Combined strikes out of three different bases, range 6 hexes. As you can see, a massive amount of bombers has been moved into China, problem is that with the given situation and how the game is modelled, it doesn´t help me at all in regards of fighting the Chinese out of supply shock armies. All I can do is to use those bombers for anti airfield strikes to keep the Chinese from building up the forts from level 6 again. All those bombers were set to ground attacks for weeks, with no result. Either they don´t fly at all, if they fly, then only in small numbers and then they only attack two out of 40 inf units in this hex, so the effect is equally zero... [8|] The enemy units must have been completely starved down, there´s still no flak fire from base forces. Many more units are marching down to Kweiyang so I´m not sure if it will stay a flak free place forever. If flak shows up, then we will have to attack from higher alt, but I guess the flak units would run out of supply in short time anyway.

We will have Franks soon so if the remaining Brit/Aussie/Chinese squadrons at Chungking decide to fight us, then we will destroy them with massive strikes.


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Day Air attack on Blagoveshchensk , at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 96
J1N1-S Irving x 36
B5N Kate x 8
Ki-61 Ic x 40

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 63

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-61 Ic bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 39th Division, at 43,33


Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 101st Mountain Division, at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 18

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x P1Y Frances bombing at 21000 feet
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Day Air attack on 26th Rifle Division, at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 27
P1Y Frances x 26

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 108th Region Fortress, at 65,32

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 113
D4Y Judy x 22
A6M3a Zero x 50
B6N Jill x 177

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x J2M3 Jack bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,78

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 22
B6N Jill x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Castle, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Fal, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
358 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

we now start to fight the "scattered" Allied convoy moving towards Australia. Dozens of TFs are spotted, most of them consisting of single ship TFs moving the same directio...

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,78

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 23

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Fal, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet

the first 59 bombers attacked two ships... [8|]


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Day Air attack on TF at 4,76

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 25
B6N Jill x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Rocket, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

another 39 to finish an already damaged single DD...


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Day Air attack on TF at 3,77

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 87
B6N Jill x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Rapid

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

hey, also a very nice strike... applause for my opponent for a very well thought out tactic...

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,78

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Citizen

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

another one bomber strike? Must be because of three dozen single ship TFs... [8|]

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,75

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Brutus, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Mandalay, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

wow! Another two ship TF? Is this a more than weak attempt to not have it looking completely gamey? Let´s form 12 x 2 ship TFs and another 48 x 1 ship TFs... then it won´t look gamey... pfff...

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,75

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 27
B6N Jill x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Mandalay, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Brutus, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
75 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet

I think after this turn, all two ship TFs are destroyed...

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,75

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Samsip, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Samphill, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
161 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

from time to time we attack merchants that put up very heavy flak fire...

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,75

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Samsip, on fire, heavy damage
AK Samphill, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

useless strike on already sunk ships...

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,74

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Samois, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Samharle, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet


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Day Air attack on TF at 4,74

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 68
B6N Jill x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Samcalia

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

another of those strange looking strikes...

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,78

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
B6N Jill x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Regent

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

just like this one...

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,76

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
D4Y Judy x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y Judy: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Samsurf, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet

we´re in the afternoon, guess only one ship TFs left...

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Day Air attack on TF at 5,74

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
B6N Jill x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
MSW Baroda, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 3,75

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
B6N Jill x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Samwater, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

seems like not all AKs were carrying troops... makes it even more strange for me as it seems the Allied in India only have very limited shipping and
IMO it´s not worth it to use it for carrying supplies when you want to move more important troops to Australia.


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Day Air attack on TF at 3,75

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
D4Y Judy x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Samhain, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet

this one was also either empty or was carrying supplies... the ship won´t reach it´s target (which I expect to be Perth)...

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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 49251 troops, 526 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1020

Defending force 52726 troops, 28 guns, 151 vehicles, Assault Value = 1082



Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 43,33

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 109579 troops, 1360 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 2330

Defending force 83262 troops, 65 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1742



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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8425 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1082

Defending force 52651 troops, 526 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1020



Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/08/44

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Night Time Surface Combat at 3,79

Japanese Ships
CL Noshiro

Allied Ships
AK Empire Duchess, Shell hits 4


Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported

well knowing that there is no real way to counter the one ship TF spam in the game, I nevertheless tried to do something, in this case trying to chase them down with cruisers. This is always what the advocates of the stupid single ship TF tactic advise if a player complains about this stupidity to exploit the engine... well, have a look at how well this works... [8|]

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Night Time Surface Combat at 3,79

Japanese Ships
CL Noshiro

Allied Ships
AK Sambridge, Shell hits 2, on fire


Allied ground losses:
82 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 5

the AKs just laugh about the cruiser´s gun fire...

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Night Time Surface Combat at 3,79

Japanese Ships
CL Noshiro

Allied Ships
AK Samur, Shell hits 2


Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Night Time Surface Combat at 3,79

Japanese Ships
CL Noshiro

Allied Ships
AK Samtrent

as you can see, it´s completely senseles... I bet my cruiser ended up in the hex with at least two dozen single ship TFs... this doesn´t mean the cruiser would attack every single TF, there´s a max of what is attacked. Same number of ships in five different TFs and all would be attacked... once again I can only say: neither the routine for air attacks, nor the routine for naval combat can deal with single ship TF spam...

glad my opponent knows that too... [8|]


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Night Time Surface Combat at 3,79

Japanese Ships
CL Noshiro, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
AK Samteviot , Shell hits 1, on fire

a single 3 inch hit on a big AK does nothing...


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Night Time Surface Combat at 3,79

Japanese Ships
CL Noshiro

Allied Ships
AK Empire Swale, Shell hits 2, on fire


Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

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Night Time Surface Combat at 3,79

Japanese Ships
CL Noshiro

Allied Ships
AK Sampan, Shell hits 1


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

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Night Time Surface Combat at 3,79

Japanese Ships
CL Noshiro

Allied Ships
AK Samos, Shell hits 1


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

then the night phase ends with me being upset... [>:]

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 47
J2M3 Jack x 27
D4Y Judy x 27
A6M3a Zero x 27
G4M1 Betty x 54

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 56
Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x J2M3 Jack bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Blagoveshchensk , at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 57
A6M5 Zeke x 27
N1K1-J George x 41
J2M3 Jack x 93
J1N1-S Irving x 71
D4Y Judy x 27
A6M5c Zeke x 48
P1Y Frances x 132
Ki-61 Ic x 107

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 225

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-61 Ic bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 116th Division, at 43,33


Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 51st Division, at 43,33


Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 4


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 26th Rifle Division, at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 15

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x P1Y Frances bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 108th Region Fortress, at 65,32

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 107
D4Y Judy x 27
A6M3a Zero x 47
B6N Jill x 171

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x J2M3 Jack bombing at 2000 feet

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then the morning starts off with sightings of dozens of single ship TFs...

Day Air attack on TF at 2,79

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
D4Y Judy x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Sambridge, Bomb hits 11, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet

and then the bombers launch...

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Day Air attack on TF at 2,79

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Sambridge, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 3,80

Japanese aircraft
D4Y Judy x 23
B6N Jill x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Samtrent, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

such strikes usually end up with 2/3 of the bombers not able to locate the target as it has been already sunk... therefor such strikes only reduce the available sorties of the carriers...


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Day Air attack on TF at 4,83

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 72
B6N Jill x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Pathfinder

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

one of those "nice" strikes again...

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,83

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
D4Y Judy x 20
B6N Jill x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Regent, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
153 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Vehicles lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

another overkill strike...

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Day Air attack on TF at 5,80

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
D4Y Judy x 27
B6N Jill x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Sampan, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 2,79

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
B6N Jill x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Samos, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

one bomber, one hit... you can´t expect more I guess...

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Day Air attack on TF at 2,79

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Samos, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
94 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 5

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

would be great if all my strikes would consist of max 12 bombers...

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,76

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
B6N Jill x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Samois

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

the lower the sortie rate is, the more of those absolutely strange strikes you get...

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Day Air attack on TF at 3,81

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
B6N Jill x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Samur

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

another one...

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Day Air attack on TF at 3,81

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
D4Y Judy x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Samokla, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
236 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 3,81

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 8
B6N Jill x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Samokla, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
47 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 3,81

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
B6N Jill x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 6 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Sammex, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

happy with those strikes...

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Day Air attack on TF at 3,81

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 62
B6N Jill x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Samouse

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

upset about strikes like this one...

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Sub attack at 2,106

Japanese Ships
SS I-17, hits 1

Allied Ships
AGC Blue Ridge
AK Soochow
AK Matthew Lyon
SC SC-645
SC SC-642
MSW Whyalla
MSW Strahan
MSW Lithgow
MSW Kiama
AVD Ballard

8 hexes South West of Perth, but completely out of the shipping lanes around Australia, I-17 fired a salvo of 6 torps at AGC Blue Ridge but all torps missed the target... [:(] one near miss in return, so I shouldn´t complain, the sub lives on... I see my subs only as recon assets at this stage of the war and I would prefer if they don´t meet enemy TFs in the same hex. Perhaps I get the same chance again like near the Gilberts when bigbaba moved heavily damaged BBs around without a single DD as escort instead of heavily covering them (IIRC two then were sunk by subs and another one received further heavy damage), then I of course would use my subs offensively against the enemy again...

so in fact, I have no idea what exactly this enemy TF is doing in this hex. And when looking at the position of the TF icon in the hex, I get the free intel that there are more enemy TFs in this hex together with my sub. Are those TFs perparing for a run North or are they even preparing for an invasion? With all those big TFs that were spotted around Tasmania (heading West) I was alerted already, Emilies are flying recon over Perth daily and we haven´t spotted lots of ships there so far, so all those TFs must have headed somewhere or are still due to arriving at Perth. In any way, we are in a state of alert at the moment and I guess the enemy has to gather all his TFs at Perth to refuel anyway before he sends them out for an invasion I guess. My bet at the moment is either Northern Australia or Timor. Both places are IMO completely out of the Allied´s possibilities and can lead to another disaster. But I´m open to be convinced about the opposite. While I also had big troop movements to India in mind, with the big convoy bringing troops FROM India towards Australia, I´m convinced that all those TFs won´t move towards India.


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Day Time Surface Combat at 3,81

Japanese Ships
CL Agano

Allied Ships
AK Samur, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
121 casualties reported

Not just Noshiro but also Agano were dispatched from KB to hunt down some single ship TFs during the night and day. While Noshiro was completely useless during the night, Agano performed better during the day...

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Day Time Surface Combat at 3,81

Japanese Ships
CL Agano

Allied Ships
AK Sammex, Shell hits 4, and is sunk


Allied ground losses:
2398 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 148

Sammex already was dead in the water and sank right after the cruiser showed up. Nice to see that we obviously sunk a big part of an armored unit. [:D]

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Day Time Surface Combat at 3,81

Japanese Ships
CL Agano, Shell hits 2

Allied Ships
AK Empire Dirk, Shell hits 9, on fire
AK Samouse , Shell hits 16, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
443 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Empire Dirk will surely live on but Samouse is in trouble after taking a dozen 6 inch hits... both AKs were firing back but both shells bounced off the CL´s armor... nice shooting nevertheless, must be quite hard to hit a light cruiser with a 5 inch gun on an AK from 18.000 yards... [:D]

And that´s it for the day. We will pursue the fleeing ships for one more day, we´re only a good dozen hexes North West of Australia´s coast and I don´t want to get "too near" to Perth. My fuel is becoming low anyway and all those single ship TFs lead to a completely exhausted carrier TF with only 20% sorties left.

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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 49237 troops, 528 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1021

Defending force 52573 troops, 29 guns, 148 vehicles, Assault Value = 1076



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Ground combat at 43,33

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 109714 troops, 1363 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 2334

Defending force 83294 troops, 67 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1742



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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8390 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1076

Defending force 52637 troops, 528 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1021



Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

as you can see, no more bombardments at Kweiyang, this is due to my orders to move all units out for R&R as my units just took too many losses against the Chinese that are just doing fine without supplies...
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I once had a guy use 50 single "ship" PT boat TFs against me, I had about 12 ships including 2xOBB. I sank most of the PT boats, but took 2 torpedo hits on one of the OBB which was then sunk by airplanes since it could not get out of range of LBA. So this is why one of our house rules in our 2x2 AE game prohibits such tactics.

On plus in AE though is that the air routines can combine targets from multiple TFs (as you've noticed), so at least on the air side there is some improvement.

Even in real life though, performing a defensive split can be a valid tactic, but it is too powerful in the UV/WITP/WPO/AE series.

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RE: it goes on...

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ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

I once had a guy use 50 single "ship" PT boat TFs against me, I had about 12 ships including 2xOBB. I sank most of the PT boats, but took 2 torpedo hits on one of the OBB which was then sunk by airplanes since it could not get out of range of LBA. So this is why one of our house rules in our 2x2 AE game prohibits such tactics.

On plus in AE though is that the air routines can combine targets from multiple TFs (as you've noticed), so at least on the air side there is some improvement.

Even in real life though, performing a defensive split can be a valid tactic, but it is too powerful in the UV/WITP/WPO/AE series.



In this case I don´t even want to blame the game as it works quite good if there are not more than half a dozen TFs (of the same type and consisting of the same ships) in a hex. It´s a problem with the players (or at least many of them) that don´t want to lose - even if they make big mistakes - and then try to compensate that with exploiting the game engine. In this particular case it´s even more annoying as mentioned before, he (my opponents) insists in a hr when he looks for an opponent that denies such a tactic.

It´s just a joke. You don´t have to game the engine if you don´t want to...[8|]
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I´m only receiving a turn a day so the game is awfully slow at the moment and this doesn´t make it more enjoyable at all... at least there´s still some action...


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/09/44

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TF 1056 encounters mine field at Perth (7,100)

Allied Ships
AK Empire Niger, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

sub laid Type 88 mine heavily damages an AK at Perth... Emilies spot two TFs probably unloading at Perth...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 191
J2M3 Jack x 74
J1N1-S Irving x 27
D4Y Judy x 57
A6M3a Zero x 54
B6N Jill x 34
G4M1 Betty x 54
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 35
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 70

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 134
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Blagoveshchensk , at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 55
A6M5 Zeke x 27
N1K1-J George x 41
J2M3 Jack x 184
J1N1-S Irving x 97
D4Y Judy x 27
A6M5c Zeke x 44
B5N Kate x 9
P1Y Frances x 135
Ki-61 Ic x 149

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 190

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-61 Ic bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 39th Division, at 43,33


Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 108th Region Fortress, at 65,32

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 115
D4Y Judy x 23
A6M3a Zero x 46
B6N Jill x 182

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x J2M3 Jack bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,83

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
D4Y Judy x 22
B6N Jill x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Duchess, Bomb hits 13, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
246 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

still hordes of single ship TFs spotted...

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Day Air attack on TF at 3,81

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
D4Y Judy x 23
B6N Jill x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Samur, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
110 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

after 6 more bombs the AK disappeared...


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Day Air attack on TF at 5,80

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
D4Y Judy x 22
B6N Jill x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Samcalia, Bomb hits 11, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
117 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 6

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

another one...

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Day Air attack on TF at 2,81

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
D4Y Judy x 27
B6N Jill x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Samteviot , Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
132 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

and another one with troops aboard...

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,87

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 73
B6N Jill x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Pathfinder

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

the usual "strange" strike...

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Day Air attack on TF at 6,81

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
B6N Jill x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Swale, Torpedo hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

another one of those strange strikes... guess the hit is FOW...

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Day Air attack on TF at 3,81

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
B6N Jill x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Dirk

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

as you can see, the single ship TF spam works just great... another one bomber attack, at least not with 80 Zeroes as escorts


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afternoon air phase

Day Air attack on TF at 4,78

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 66
B6N Jill x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Samois

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

my carrier sorties seem to have become as much depleted that this is the only strike we flew in the afternoon. Checking the TF, the sorties are down to 25% but it seems it´s low enough that we don´t fly anymore attacks on the rest of the single ship TFs. Well, I´ve ordered my carriers to move back ot it´s homeport. While my opponent tried everything to game the game the losses inflicted by KB were severe. The CVE that was sunk is nowhere as valueable as all the troops that drowned. Hopefully we were able to sink at least a couple of units completely, some of them will live on and will be rebuilt. I didn´t keep track of how many AKs are confirmed sunk but I guess we took out four dozen AKs, most of them loaded with troops. The CVE and the couple of DDs and MSWs aren´t worth a lot. In the end it was a nice raid, total losses on our side are a couple of Zeroes and a dozen bombers that will easily replaced with high exp pilots from my training daitais. It was especially nice to see that we took out armored units. A pity there wasn´t an inf division on this convoy but there were one or two bgds that are now absolutely trashed and they will probably need half a year+ to be rebuilt. And by then, we will have nearly reached 1945 [:D]

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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 49287 troops, 528 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1020

Defending force 52513 troops, 27 guns, 148 vehicles, Assault Value = 1078

hopefully the Russian troops at Blagoveshchensk will have starved down to only a couple of assault points. At the moment, they don´t seem to lose a lot each turn...

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Ground combat at 43,33

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 109800 troops, 1369 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 2335

Defending force 83357 troops, 66 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1747



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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8373 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1078

Defending force 52687 troops, 528 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1020



Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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RE: it goes on...

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we´ve done a couple of turns and reached the next point where my opponent doesn´t give a f*cking damn about the hrs we´ve agreed to. This kind of stupid behaviour is just too much for me and it really pisses me off. This turn saw this:

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/14/44

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Day Air attack on Nagoya , at 64,42


Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 81


Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Netsuda Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Azuchi Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Zinzan Maru, Bomb hits 1
AP Zuiho Maru, Bomb hits 1
AP Syoryu Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
MSW Wa 104, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Hukko Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Junpo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Clyde Maru, Bomb hits 1
AK Takegawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Kashimasan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Akita Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Sinko Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
MSW W.33, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Dainiti Maru, Bomb hits 1
AK Takao Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kokka Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Takunan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Wa 13, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kusuyama Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Takayo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Hokumyo Maru, Bomb hits 1
AK Ganges Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Taimei Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Teikin Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Port hits 3
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet



now where did those B-29 come from? Chungking! Chungking doesn´t have an airfield big enough to have B-29 launching strikes from. What a surprise he "forgot" about this hr too, just like the one about airfield stacking (which he still deliberetly ignores more or less all around the map where I can´t tell it 100% for sure). Not to talk about the four dozen single ship TFs he created after stumbling into KB. [8|]

I was well aware about the fact that Chungking is in range of all my important industrial areas and I was more than amazed that the Chinese never built it up, it has still the same size like at the beginning of the war. He could have moved Liberators in to bomb my industry in China but he never did, so I did nothing to raise his attention. I didn´t even mention this "threat" in my AAR as it was a fact that my opponent was reading my closed AAR while I played him before Miller took over. No matter if an AAR is "closed" or not, it´s always more than a high risk to mention something as opponents "magically" then get to know of. Experienced too many surprises in the distant past that were too surprising to happen that often... not in this game as I try to keep the game at least a week ahead of the AAR and I don´t post too many important things about my future planning.

I´ve sent this turn back with the hrs on page 1 of this AAR and told him he should redo the turn and once again told him either he sticks to the hrs or I will bail out of this game. Honestly, when Paul quit, this game should have been stopped.
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The last turn when the B-29s came from a too small airfield was redone and we got a couple of turns done. And it seems to start getting a little bit more interesting again...


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/10/44

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TF 1026 encounters mine field at Perth (7,100)

Allied Ships
DD Foote
DD Eaton
DD Fullam
DD Dyson

more and more TFs are spotted at and around Perth... more than 300 ships are reported being in port, the level 8 airfield has been filled up too and lots of TFs are spotted by my subs in this area... my Emilies reported 50+ Allied subs at Perth when there were no other ships, with so many ships disbanded in port it´s impossible to say what there is, though mostly probably AKs and APs. bigbaba is definetely up to something in this area and the funny thing is that you can´t hide such a buildup... [:D] while being on alert already anyway, we will further prepare our troops to counter an Allied offensive around Australia...

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TF 1064 encounters mine field at Perth (7,100)

Allied Ships
MSW Vireo

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 192
J2M3 Jack x 73
J1N1-S Irving x 27
D4Y Judy x 75
A6M3a Zero x 54
B6N Jill x 34
G4M1 Betty x 52
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 35
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 70

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 226
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Blagoveshchensk , at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 53
A6M5 Zeke x 26
N1K1-J George x 42
J2M3 Jack x 176
J1N1-S Irving x 103
D4Y Judy x 26
A6M5c Zeke x 43
B5N Kate x 9
P1Y Frances x 128
Ki-61 Ic x 145

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 337

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-61 Ic bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Ulan-Ude , at 61,10


Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 36
Yak-9D x 96
Pe-2 x 231


Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 1 damaged
Pe-2: 3 destroyed, 21 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
107 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 104

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Pe-2 bombing at 16000 feet

bigbaba obviously has moved the British Liberators to Ulan Ude now. There is the aircraft stacking house rule of af size x 50 + max 10%. Well, there is no hr about what happens if there is only one base left and the player has no other chance to move his ac somewhere. In this case, the last Russian base in the North has something like 1500 - 2000 ac at this level 8 airfield (6.500 airbalance!!!!) which is about 4-5 times the max amount of aircraft that are allowed there. bigbaba can´t move his Russian ac elsewhere so no complain about that (if he´s only using 400 of them - which I doubt when I look at the number of incoming ac and the number of fighters on Cap [8|]) BUT besides this, he then moves additional British 4E bomber squadrons into this completely overstacked airfield. And to be honest, this is once again something that is well beyond my logic and understanding on what you should do.

Just like I´ve said, you should be a lawyer and set up 894 pages of a house rule contract before you start a PBEM, with all eventualities in the contract - and you will still miss something. The same with the hr about single ship TF spam. The hr says "don´t do that with INVASION TFs". [8|] Instead it should be "don´t do that with TFs". So it was just fine for him to do the single ship TF spam in the Indian ocean with his convoy as it wasn´t an "INVASION" TF...


It´s a pain, nothing else... there are only two or three hrs in this game that are really important and it´s just annoying if you have to discuss them every couple of turns again and again and again...


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Day Air attack on 35th Rifle Division, at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 24
P1Y Frances x 21

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 101st Mountain Division, at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 20

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x P1Y Frances bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 26th Rifle Division, at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 3
P1Y Frances x 12

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x P1Y Frances bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 12th Rifle Division, at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 8

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x P1Y Frances bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 108th Region Fortress, at 65,32

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 106
D3A Val x 27
A6M3a Zero x 72
B6N Jill x 165

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x J2M3 Jack bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 7,83

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 1
B6N Jill x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Swale

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

as you can see, KB isn´t able to launch strikes anymore, despite of having 20% sorties left... the one ship TF spam worked...

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Day Air attack on TF at 3,83

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 69
B6N Jill x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Samouse , Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

two single bomber attacks in the morning...[8|]

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,81

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 66
B6N Jill x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Samois

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet

and one in the afternoon... [8|][8|]

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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 49273 troops, 527 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1021

Defending force 52322 troops, 24 guns, 149 vehicles, Assault Value = 1070



Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 43,33

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 109928 troops, 1377 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 2338

Defending force 83348 troops, 65 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1752



Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8413 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1070

Defending force 52673 troops, 527 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1021


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/11/44

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 192
J2M3 Jack x 74
J1N1-S Irving x 27
D4Y Judy x 78
A6M3a Zero x 54
B6N Jill x 34
G4M1 Betty x 53
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 35
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 70

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 217
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing at 2000 feet

Clark field and Bataan airfield are still full of training daitais. Half of them has perfect experience and are veteran pilots that have fought many succesful battles already. They can be moved into the threatened area around Northern Australia within a couple of days as they´re just behind the front line... as soon as it heats up I will have the aircraft in place...

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Day Air attack on Blagoveshchensk , at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 58
A6M5 Zeke x 27
N1K1-J George x 45
J2M3 Jack x 190
J1N1-S Irving x 108
D4Y Judy x 27
A6M5c Zeke x 48
B5N Kate x 9
P1Y Frances x 132
Ki-61 Ic x 156

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 291

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-61 Ic bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Ulan-Ude , at 61,10


Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 27
Yak-9D x 94
Pe-2 x 247


Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 3 damaged
Pe-2: 1 destroyed, 22 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 74

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Pe-2 bombing at 16000 feet

440 ac max allowed, some 1.500 at the base and with the game stacking limits (not the hr) he get´s more than 550 into the air. Pretty much tells me that he´s not caring about the hr at this base at all as you have to set a hell a lot of squadrons to attack to get that many ac flying if four times overstacked...[8|]

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Day Air attack on 101st Mountain Division, at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 18

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
57 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x P1Y Frances bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 26th Rifle Division, at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 27
P1Y Frances x 37

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 108th Region Fortress, at 65,32

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 108
D3A Val x 27
A6M3a Zero x 76
B6N Jill x 163

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x J2M3 Jack bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 49246 troops, 527 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1019

Defending force 51922 troops, 24 guns, 147 vehicles, Assault Value = 1062



Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 43,33

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 109938 troops, 1377 guns, 23 vehicles, Assault Value = 2339

Defending force 83652 troops, 65 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1756



Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8424 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1062

Defending force 52646 troops, 527 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1019



Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/12/44

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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 Ic x 57
Ki-49 Helen x 111

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 20 damaged


Allied ground losses:
199 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 69

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet

only one base launched a strike today but in this case it was good as the Chinese obviously have flak now... and this unit has supply...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 61
J2M3 Jack x 31
J1N1-S Irving x 3
D4Y Judy x 33
A6M3a Zero x 30
B6N Jill x 4
G4M1 Betty x 54
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 6

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 64

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Blagoveshchensk , at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 60
A6M5 Zeke x 27
J2M3 Jack x 48
J1N1-S Irving x 71
D4Y Judy x 27
Ki-61 Ic x 36

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 8
Runway hits 100

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-61 Ic bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 49241 troops, 529 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1017

Defending force 51828 troops, 23 guns, 146 vehicles, Assault Value = 1062



Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported

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RE: it goes on...

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 04/13/44

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TF 1012 encounters mine field at Perth (7,100)

Allied Ships
PG Jasmine
PC Tiger
PG Swan

lots of TFs arrived at Perth during the night... intel from my spy-mines...

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TF 1021 encounters mine field at Perth (7,100)

Allied Ships
DD Cony
DD Converse
DD Conner

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TF 1037 encounters mine field at Perth (7,100)

Allied Ships
DD Murray
DD Mullany
DD Marshall

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TF 1058 encounters mine field at Perth (7,100)

Allied Ships
DD Barker
DD Monaghan
DD Reid
DD Morris
DD O'Brien
DD Russell

every single DD destroyed one or two Type 88 mines but not a single ship hit...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 47
J2M3 Jack x 27
D4Y Judy x 27
A6M3a Zero x 27
G4M1 Betty x 54

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 46

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x J2M3 Jack bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Blagoveshchensk , at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 64
A6M5 Zeke x 26
N1K1-J George x 47
J2M3 Jack x 191
J1N1-S Irving x 108
D4Y Judy x 27
A6M5c Zeke x 48
B5N Kate x 9
P1Y Frances x 133
Ki-61 Ic x 170

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
51 casualties reported

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 152

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-61 Ic bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Petropavlovsk , at 84,32


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 24
LB-30 Liberator x 48
PB4Y Liberator x 36
B-24J Liberator x 43


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 9 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 12 damaged
PB4Y Liberator: 10 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 17 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 24
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 160

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet

perhaps I´ll need more flak up in the North but with the Allied build up around Australia I´m 99% sure that there won´t happen much up North... and if so, it´s not a suitable place anyway and I have it fortified quite well...

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Day Air attack on Ulan-Ude , at 61,10


Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 33
Yak-9D x 95
Pe-2 x 258


Allied aircraft losses
Liberator VI: 3 damaged
Pe-2: 2 destroyed, 25 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
158 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 25
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 168

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Pe-2 bombing at 16000 feet

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Day Air attack on 35th Rifle Division, at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 15

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
87 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x P1Y Frances bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 26th Rifle Division, at 69,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 27
P1Y Frances x 40

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
109 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 108th Region Fortress, at 65,32

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 114
D3A Val x 27
A6M3a Zero x 81
B6N Jill x 165

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x J2M3 Jack bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at Blagoveshchensk

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 49238 troops, 527 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1019

Defending force 51457 troops, 24 guns, 148 vehicles, Assault Value = 1054



Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported

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