Could we define "opponent vanished"

A Ladder is a means to track your success agaisnt a pool of opponents over time. You get points for each game you play, and the better you do, the more points you get! Can you climb the ladder to the TOP? How long can you stay there?

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BigSnig
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Could we define "opponent vanished"

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I have an opponent who used to reply daily. Then as I was getting an advantage his replies slowed to 3/week. Later I was clearly winning and I didnt' hear from him for 6 days. I wrote him an email and no response. After ten days I wrote a second email, saying I would have to report the game as a forfiet if he didn't reply (don't know if this was Hoyle). He responded the next day- no explanations. Since then its been another 10 days.

How much time is enough for a forfiet to be declared?

There could be a default established which players could override if they chose.
JanSorensen
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Post by JanSorensen »

I feel your pain - but its just painfully hard to make a rule to cover all situations.

I am definitely open to suggestions though. The only current rule regards someone that completely has vanished which is easy to handle in which case its 10 days after you post in the Completed Games thread.

If you want to PM me the name of your opponent I dont mind sending him a mail myself to ask if there is a problem.
BigSnig
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RE: Could we define "opponent vanished"

Post by BigSnig »

I have a suggestion. How about if a player makes a few reasonable attempts to get his opponent to reply. Allow that part to be up to the player involved and no rules are applied. Then, if there is no action he could notify some intermediate person, such as yourself, who would contact the opponent. The clock could start at this point. If no turn is forwarded in an additional two days (pick a number) then a forfiet could be declared.

Hopefully this situation will not come up too often, but it is very aggravating when it does.

Daykeras
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Why not have a forum, since this is where all ladder games are started and reported anyways, for inactive status. If a player is going inactive they must post and have it basicly decided by the players involved if it's a forfeit or just postponed. Also if the person you are playing against has not played in a while you post a thread or in a thread stating such. That way the date is logged and we can see how long it took them to get back and respond. After let's say 10-15 days it's auto forfeit without a response.

I feel we do need some kind of rule or organized system because of ranking.

On the note of ranking why not have seasons so if you have a bunch of forfeits this season you can make it up next when the ladder is cleared.
BigSnig
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RE: Could we define "opponent vanished"

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I like that idea fine. The names of players who forfiet games could be maintained on a list.
JanSorensen
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RE: Could we define "opponent vanished"

Post by JanSorensen »

It alreadys says:
If not all players post about the game result it will still be accepted after 10 days of waiting. In that case the remaining players are considered to have given consent in absentia. This can be used to post a win by default if an opponent vanished. Only games that have played through a minimum of 4 turns will be considered valid for this

I believe that covers it well enough - or am I missing something?
Daykeras
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RE: Could we define "opponent vanished"

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Oh, that's awesome :)

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mdh1204
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RE: Could we define "opponent vanished"

Post by mdh1204 »

Ten days? Is that really long enough? Maybe 3 months, or why not give it a year or two? I'm kidding. If people can't be bothered to keep up with a game within 5 days tops, to heck with them. Five days is rude enough, short of a car accident, death in the family, or a carnivorous cow stampede. In the latter case, you could always allow grace.
I have been kicked out of the Matrix Games forums because I can not control my mouth and at times act like a complete ass.
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