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I know its going to be fantastic but I honestly hand on heart can't afford that sort of money...if I could I'd buy it...I'm not even refusing to buy as some kind of protest to the price...

I can't see how its good business sense even... surely you will sell far more copies if the game was £49.99??? I imagine the extra money you've added to the price your losing even more due to people not being able to buy it.

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It sure is a stiff price, considering that most large titles these days go for 50€ or around, but I guess PG are a small outfit and have been working on this for a long time, so they need to calculate that in.

Long time fans of the series (like myself) will buy anyway, but what is worrying is that the price is sure to put some potential new players completely off, at least until it's on sale. I would have posted about it on some other forums I frequent where there's plenty of old-school wargamers, but now I don't know, they will just b*tch about the price... [;)]
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hehe so all that time and effort put into making youtube videos and battlefield tours just went out the window. anyone that was maybe interested by your marketing has just clicked that x in the top right hand corner, never to return.
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Thank God I could afford to buy it - BUT the price is way to steep for a game as I already mentioned. Yea it maybe the best game ever but it's too much to fork over for a game IMO. I don't see the logic here as other's have put it already you would think Matrix would do market research and see if people would be willing to get it or not at that price point. What good is it if you have 100 people that buy it at $80.00 or you potentially have 500 people that buy it at $50.00 Let me do the quick math here:

100 x $80.00 = $8,000.00
500 x $50.00 = $25,000.00

See the difference, IMO it is just bad judgement call on Matrix and Panther games. They will realize it when they see the sales numbers come in and will have no choice but to lower the price to make up the development cost or just take a loss and hopefully use it as lessons learned. I wish them the best I like Matrix and have bought most of their games before. However this one is a hard pill to swallow. Maybe some time in the future but not now.
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This has gone from my "day one purchase" list to my "wait until next Christmas discount campaign" list.
And i'm a Panther games fan since RDOA [:(]
I really think you are doing a very bad service to yourself putting a price like this. [8|]
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I was interested in this title as well. Looks very slick. However, WITP AE is the only title I have every spent that much of a game. Frankly I have been visiting GOG.com and picking up oldies but goodies for 5 bucks. Currently playing Arcanum in fact. I will spring for this title if something is done regarding the pricing, as it stands however it is too rich for my blood.
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I never properly delved into CotA.  I figured I'd wait for this instead because of the improvements.  I just re-installed CotA, since it's already paid for, and will spend the $50 I had put aside for this week into Elemental when the beta opens up again.
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spend the $50 I had put aside for this week into Elemental when the beta opens up again.
 
Yeah I had forgotten all about Elmental guess I will become a me too on that one as well for $50 bucks.
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Sadly the price is high even in euros, although the currency conversion gives us some advantage in respect to US people. I have to consider seriously if and when to buy the game. I honestly was looking forward to it so much, since I consider the best operational wargame around, but I'm also a big fan of Combat Mission and some releases from this series are coming out in the near future. Given the reduced budget for games I can allocate this year, I will have to think a lot before making a choice.
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Erik:

A suggestion. Would it be feasible to produce a "stripped down" model for a price close to the norm? Perhaps eliminate the editor, which I and many (most?) others have no interest in, the video tutorials, which most don't watch more than once anyway, and dare I say it, even paring out  a couple of scenarios? Then you could call the version released today a "collector's edition", and justify the higher price.
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Actually, I think Matrix should bite the bullet, swallow the pride and *quickly* announce some nice posting "Due to the overwhelming feedback of our loyal customers we are adjusting our pricing on Command Ops: Battles from the Bulge"...You have spoken and we have listened.  Please support Matrix and Panther games by purchasing this and other titles....blah...blah...blah".   Think it is obvious this is turning into a negative fiasco and sales are obviously going to be lower than expected.  If it is done quickly...this will just all be a minor blip.
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ORIGINAL: gabeeg

Actually, I think Matrix should bite the bullet, swallow the pride and *quickly* announce some nice posting "Due to the overwhelming feedback of our loyal customers we are adjusting our pricing on Command Ops: Battles from the Bulge"...You have spoken and we have listened.  Please support Matrix and Panther games by purchasing this and other titles....blah...blah...blah.   Think it is obvious this is turning into a negative fiasco and sales are obviously going to be lower than expected.  If it is done quickly...this will just all be a minor blip.

I agree with gabeeg. Let there be a price reduction to $49.95 [:D] My pocketbook is waiting patiently.
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Was thinking about buying, then I saw the price [X(]

And there is no printed manual, with WITP:AE I got 300+ pages of glossy colour. Admitidly this means there is no real point in buying the physical version but I object to paying £65+ (when VAT is added in) for a download no matter how good the game might be.



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ORIGINAL: Chad Harrison

I just wanted to weigh in on the price.

Erik's comparison to WitP is a sound one. Games like this are well worth the price. Especially in the light of the garbage that mainstream developers release for $60. Paying an extra $20 for a good, solid game is well worth the cost in my opinoin.
Really? 79.99 for the whole war in the Pacific, vrs $80 for one battle? I know it has scn, but come on!!!. Uhm.....no thanks.
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I just spent more than half the price on dinner for the family.  Sorry to hear it will be too much for some but it's worth it for the many hours of enjoyment the game will provide.
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[sung to the tune of I'm a Believer by the Monkees]
 
Then I saw the price
and I couldn't believe it
such a price
left doubts in my mind
I'm in awe ewwww I couldn't believe it had to leave it
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ORIGINAL: elmo3

I just spent more than half the price on dinner for the family.  Sorry to hear it will be too much for some but it's worth it for the many hours of enjoyment the game will provide.
Hmm, lets see. GGWITE is due out soon, SOTP is due out soon, CWWI, down the road...I would bet people that people who buy this game, and I'm sure it's a good game, won't buy the above mentioned games, you might want to change your banner.
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We are into a recession, tuff times for most.
 
The big question now is will War in the East be $ 100....??? We can only wait and see.
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Was expecting $70, like WitP cost me, so now I will have to do without the celebratory 6-pack for my first night of BftB.
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ORIGINAL: sabre100

Thank God I could afford to buy it - BUT the price is way to steep for a game as I already mentioned. Yea it maybe the best game ever but it's too much to fork over for a game IMO. I don't see the logic here as other's have put it already you would think Matrix would do market research and see if people would be willing to get it or not at that price point. What good is it if you have 100 people that buy it at $80.00 or you potentially have 500 people that buy it at $50.00 Let me do the quick math here:

100 x $80.00 = $8,000.00
500 x $50.00 = $25,000.00

See the difference, IMO it is just bad judgement call on Matrix and Panther games. They will realize it when they see the sales numbers come in and will have no choice but to lower the price to make up the development cost or just take a loss and hopefully use it as lessons learned. I wish them the best I like Matrix and have bought most of their games before. However this one is a hard pill to swallow. Maybe some time in the future but not now.

Excellent analogy, and by the looks of posts might not be too far off... Personally I'm more interested in War in the East, but if that is also the same high price, I will have no interest...

I think you have the people who have money to burn and love the games.. and can afford to buy, and go for it.. that's great..

then you have the people who are careful how they spend their money, love the games, but are selective (wait for sales, buy less games).. but could be tempted and break down.. but at this price, don't think that would happen..

Then you have impulse buyers as well.. at this high price you will get none of those.
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