Allied supply @ Veve Historical Scen.

[FredSanford3]

It appears to me that the Allies run into severe supply issues with Mackay Force being initially supported by I Aus Corps supply base. The I Corps supply base drops everyone it's supporting on the first resupply cycle. Meanwhile, all Mackay Force assets not served by 19 or 1 Bde supply bases are out of supply.

In my first foray into scenario modding, I simply replaced the I Corps supply base with the 6 Aus. Div supply base (Mackay force's organic supply base according to the OOB). Simple drag-and-drop replacement, and the allied supply works out much better.

While delving around with the OOB's in the scenario editor, I was looking at the OOB for the I Aus Corps. It appears in the OOB to have only a single subordinate formation, Mackay Force, other than the base. Like so:

[FredSanford3]

...so anyway I was wondering about whether 2 NZ Div and 1 UK Armd Bde are I Aus Corp assets, as shown below. Same question for the Greek units, LAA and Arty units - do they belong to Allen force or I Aus Corps?

[FredSanford3]

FWIW, here's what Wikipedia says about the Aus I Corp:

In April 1941, I Corps HQ was transferred to Greece for the Greek campaign. The corps controlled the Australian 6th Division, the New Zealand 2nd Division, the Greek 12th Division and the British 1st Armoured Brigade. On April 12, it was officially renamed the Anzac Corps, a reference to the combined Australian-New Zealand formations of World War I. However, the Allied forces were quickly overcome by the German advance and I Corps HQ left Greece on April 23-24.

Aus I Corps

[Mehring]

Ahhh... my old mate First Clash at Veve.

Check this out, it might be of interest-

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I'm not sure whether or not the patch will fully resolve this issue. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[simovitch]

I'm not experiencing the same problem with I corps base that you describe. After 1800 hrs I see still a valid chain of supply to subordinate bases and independant units.[&:] It shouldn't matter that the I corps base is used instead of the division base (in fact it will provide more supply capacity) regardless of where it shows up on the force display.

You are very likely correct with the actual ORBAT for I Corps. However the NZ units are not featured in this particular scenario so the scenario designer 'lifted' them from the command structure of I Corps. This is done sometimes by designers to make sure unwanted units don't get included in reinforcement schedules.

Use one of the scenario templates (G41 for Greece, 1941) which will more likely have the actual command structures.

Hope this helps

[simovitch]

ORIGINAL: Mehring

Ahhh... my old mate First Clash at Veve.

Check this out, it might be of interest-

tm.asp?m=1404853

I'm not sure whether or not the patch will fully resolve this issue. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Oh yeah. I'm testing with the beta patch 3 which fixes this problem (it's really been that long?[:o]) so that might explain why it works for me.[:'(]

[FredSanford3]

I have occasional CTD's that I suspect are supply related (or something that seems to key to the top of the hour).

I run CotA on a Vista machine. Does that matter?

I'm on my way out the door for the evening, but later on I'll post a screenie of the I Corps supply base status at 1900 D1 - no units or subbases will show as drawing supply.

Edit: @ Mehring - It's not that - you were getting red lines part of the time due to the Allied supply only running on 1 delivery in the evening, with the day delivery interdicted by air superiority (a scenario setting).

In my situation, all of Mackay force's units will have blanks under their depot tab where the supply base should be shown - implying that there is no supply base for such units.

[FredSanford3]

Autorun the unpatched version to 1900 D1, and check out Mackay force & the I corps supply base. They're divorced.

[FredSanford3]

Ok, I didn't go out just yet...here's the status of the I Corps supply base @ start. Lots of units and 2 subbases being supplied:

[FredSanford3]

...and here it is @ 1900 (I watched the green lines drop off at 1801). Note that it supports no-one anymore:

[FredSanford3]

...and here's Macforce HQ:

[simovitch]

Here's the screenshot at D1 19:00 with patch 3: