RE: This program won't run on my system complaints

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Aragorn
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Post by Aragorn »

Hi Jeff and Blackhorse!

I've changed my virtual memory to maximum 384MB but i'm afraid it doesn't help me out there (except that the system runs a little faster!).
Any other suggestions?
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Post by KG Erwin »

For you NT and Win 2000 users, all I can do is refer you to the "Tech Support By Gamers" section. All I did was spell out what Rick Bancroft suggested. Unfortunately, it only applies to Win 98 users. Wish I could help, but this would be a case of the blind leading the blind. GH.
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Post by jshudson »

Originally posted by RobBrennan:
Hi all . just downloaded this classic and i am having a major problem. After i double click the setup download the system flickers to 'installing game' then flicks back to win98 with nothing really happening. I know this sounds like a duff download but i downloaded it 3 times , last time with get right to make sure i had the entire file. any suggestions as to what may be happening?
Rob, Im having the same problems. Specificaly: I'm running a Gateway Pent II 450 with windows 98. I have the antivirus disabled and all background applications closed or disabled. Each time I try to load your programs (SPWaW updates - download and CD versions), (WiR), and (PW Matrix project) I get the first window...INITIALIZING SETUP, then a quick flash of the blue background and nothing. No error signals or indications of problems, just a quick flash and nothing.

Have you found an answer to this frustrating situation?
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Post by garry »

[QUOTE]Originally posted by RickyB:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by KG Erwin:
Thanks, Rick. I used the second solution you recommended. Now the game works. The problem was, I had never needed to change any settings in config.sys before now. For those using Windows 98, here is the exact procedure:start>programs>accessories>system tools>system information>tools>system configuration utility. Click on config.sys, hit the "new" button, and type in dos=high,umb. Make sure that this is moved to the second command line. Click "OK" and restart your PC. Start the game, and voila, it works! Note:this procedure was used on a 400mhz Pentium II system with 64MB RAM.


I didnt need to add any new command lines to config.sys as already had that command listed. All I did was uncheck the command which had all the REM commands. Now when I run the Pacwar program I dont have any trouble with memory and able to access carrier aircraft with no problems. Follow the exact procedure as quoted and uncheck the REM commands. Restart PC and program should run correctly. I have 100 mhz Pentium windows 98 with 32MB RAM.
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Post by Aragorn »

Hi all!

I got a win2000 system. WiR works but not pacwar. I get an out of memory problem after the credits.
I've tried to rightclick the pif file and assign a copy of the config and autoexec which can be modified with notepad.
So far so good.
The problem is that the autoexec isn't doing the job of freeing memory and i'm not sure how to change it.

anyone got pacwar working on win2000 and have a possibility to mail me a copy of your config and autoexec?
Would be really grateful for help! (daniel.arnberg@spray.se)
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Post by [K126]Mephisto »

Hi all!
I try to remember my old DOS-days and give you some help.

1.) First step for all of you is: Make a backup copy of

autoexec.bat
config.sys

to another directory. If anything will not work after you modify these files you can just copy the files back to C:\
All modern systems (Win9X, ME, NT, 2000) will at least start without these files.

2.) The config.sys and the autoexec.bat are pure text-files, so “notepad” or “editor” are sufficient to modify them.

3.) Ok, now for the operating systems:

Win2k

If you are running Win2k, you don`t need any of these files. I personally have Win2K running without these files and everything is fine. WiR and PacWar are running.
There is only one bug: Even without these files (and max low RAM therefore) I can`t get an report for my carrier planes. That`s "out of memory" but you can still give them orders via Keyboard (just press "c" or "m").

All other WINs:
First, let me explain some basics.

In the old days (DOS), you could only get the first 640 KB of RAM working for you REGARDLESS OF ACTUAL RAM IN YOUR PC.
Lets make this clear: Even if you have 128 MB of RAM installed in your PC, you could only use the first 640 KB of it for your programs.
To get past this limitation there were 2 programs, Himem.sys and Emm386.exe. These 2 programs are very important for getting enough RAM to work for you. What we need to do is to push every other program that runs out of these 640 KBs so WiR/PacWar can use as much of this as possible.

Ok, here we go to get these porgrams work for us:

A typical config.sys should look like this:
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE RAM
DOS=HIGH,UMB
COUNTRY=049,850,C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\COUNTRY.SYS
BUFFERSHIGH=40
FILESHIGH=40
FCBSHIGH=4

In the first line, we load HIMEM.SYS (watch out that you enter YOUR right path to the himem.sys).

In the second line we load Emm386.exe and get it to provide "Upper memory", the place we want to push all other programs, INCLUDING Emm386, therefore the command "divceHIGH".

In the third line we get DOS to use the Upper Memory with "dos=high,umb". This line MUST be in the config.sys.

In the fourth line, we get our keyboard to the right country settings, here 049="germany". English users can, as far as I know, avoid this line as DOS is assuming english users by default.

The rest of the lines pushes some other OS-files into upper memory (note the -HIGH command behind these).

Ok, that’s the way a clean efficient config.sys should look like. If you don't want to use the above config.sys you can easily modify yours with notepad or editor. Just replace every "device" with "devicehigh", place the dos=high,umb” AFTER the himem.sys and emm386.exe line and make buffersHIGH and filesHIGH.

Now for the autoexec.bat:

It should look like this:
@ECHO OFF
PROMPT $p$g
PATH C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;
SET TEMP=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
LOADHIGH C:\WINDOWS\MOUSE.COM

The important thing about the autoexec.bat is, that you place an LOADHIGH or LH in front every line that loads something (here the mouse driver), usually "loading" lines begin after the "SET TEMP" line. This way the OS tries to put every program above the 640 KBs leaving it two WiR/PacWar.

You can check your memory status by typing “mem” in your dos-box, “mem /u” (I think) for a detailed report.

One final word for the Win9x/ME users: Win9x (and probably ME) always load first the config.sys and then the autoexec.bat in C:\. Every time you open a dos-box Win9x/ME, the commands of these 2 files are automatically in effect REGARDLESS OF ANY OTHER AUTOEXEC OR CONFIG YOU SPECIFY IN OUR PIF. So, if you loaded the mouse driver in the c:\autoexec.bat, it will be loaded in any dos-box no matter if you want it or not.
The point of this is, don’t modify your .pif-files but the config.sys and autoexec.bat in your c:\. That’s the only reliable way of getting any good results.

If you still have questions, post here and I will provide an Email for reaching me.
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Post by Charles22 »

I only had a mini-look at the game yesterday, and it seems to play fine off the shortcut on Windows 98 SE.
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Post by Fuerte »

It also runs in WinME but not in Win2000.
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Post by Aragorn »

Allright!
First of all i'd like to thank Mephisto for the excellent help with autoexec and config. Thanx mate!
I hadn't read your reply when i got it running so i'm still not sure HOW i've done it... but it seems to work!
What was your (mephistos) bug with those carrier planes by the way?
I can review carrier planes and change them and change missions as well and haven't had any mem problems since i got it working... but then again i never played old pacwar so i haven't gone through all functions yet...
Once again...thanx!

Aragorn
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Post by aglozier »

I think I found the problem with running Pacific War under Win 2000. If appears that the shortcut (PIF) files that get installed with the game are screwed up. You need to delete them. There's one called "PAC" in the Pacific War directory and another called "Pacific War DOS Start" in the Windows start menu. If you want a new shortcut in the start menu, just drag "PAC.EXE" to it to create new one.

What appeared to be happening with the old shortcuts is that some drivers were being loaded in low memory instead of high memory. This resulted in only 583K of memory instead of 633K of memory.

George
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Post by [K126]Mephisto »

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aragorn:
Allright!
First of all i'd like to thank Mephisto for the excellent help with autoexec and config. Thanx mate!

No problem, m8. Image

What was your (mephistos) bug with those carrier planes by the way?

When i look up the stats for an carrier squadron on a carrier (in a TF) I run out of memeory. There is no harm, just the message and no stats for the planes (and no buttons for my mouse) but i can access everything via keyboard, Maybe Agloziers tip can help, i have to try. Image
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Post by RobBrennan »

eh up ! .. please some help here ? .. download ok .. but i get nowhere in the installation flicks screen to 'installing' then back to win98 .. downloaded 5 times now .. so not a duff download .. please any help appreciated
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Post by babyseal7 »

***NOTE***

For what it's worth...The game locks up/runs slow/loads slow using the "Pacific War Matrix Project" shortcut that gets installed on the desktop. Runs fast and flawless using the "Pacific War Dos" shortcut in the Matrix folder...at least on my machine.
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Post by Il carabiniere »

Hello,

I can't play Pac, after the credits screen has passed there is this message (I translate it from italian) "Not valid operation.The application will be terminated.
The application has found a general protection exception (?) error position
00C0:FFFF (sometimes 0000:0297)" What is the meaning of this message and what can I do?
I have no problem whit WiR and Spwaw.
Un aiuto da qualche compatriota sarebbe oltremodo gradito.
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Post by Skuderian »

I have the same problems with the system address it also occurs when I start Steel Panthers 3 and Steel Panthers WW2. I have enough memory and this problem has occured after a new windows installation.

Who can help me?

Greetings Skuderian
gez.

Skuderian
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Post by Vonbrown »

Originally posted by Blackhorse:

Is there any help/hope for a Windows NT user?

My logfile says "setup completed normally", but noted that two truetype fonts (arial, tahoma) failed to register.

When I execute, the opening screens come up, but after the credits all I see is a black/blank screen, and the task manager indicates that the game is frozen.

I've found the autoexec.bat and config.sys files, but I can't open them ("this is not a valid NT application") let alone edit them.

Suggestions?
I am running Win2000 Pro with 256m of ram and all the updates and a Diamond Viper with 32 m of ram..........and all my games run great! even Gary Grigsby original!.......PS Intel PII 350 on a Intel BX chipset
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