Light Titan weight/Bmt oddity

[widowmaker]

Per request by Larkin.

Light Titans have an oddity regarding weight and Bmt: the Bmt listed on the chassis selection screen is only true if the Titan weighs 70.00 exactly. Even a fraction that rounds to 70.00 in the stat box in the lower right results in a Bmt 1 sec faster than it should be. The only reason I'm complaining is because I designed a Titan that weighed 70.00, but moved 1 sec slower than I expected. When I stripped 1 mm of armor off the Head, it moved as predicted. This seems silly. Can this be adjusted? Thanks.

widowmaker

[Marga]

Can this be adjusted? Thanks.

widowmaker

This happens probably due to rounding side effects, in which case I cannot promise to be able to fix it. Please attach the titan for import/export so that I can take a look at it. Did the armor points change when removing 1mm? If not, it is not important to have 1mm less armor.

[widowmaker]

I'm including two custom Titans: one weighs 70.00 tons and has a Bmt 1 sec less than its chassis' rating; the other weighs 69.97 tons and has room on the Head for 1 mm of Dullaroy. When that 1 mm is added, the weight increases to 70.00, and the Bmt increases 1 sec.

And yes, losing that 1 mm of armor dropped the AP. All armor locations on the Titan are like that.

widowmaker

[widowmaker]

Grrrrr...

Doesn't seem to matter what I do, the file won't attach.

Plan B.

This is the Titan that weighs 70.00 and moves 1 sec faster than it should:

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Titan Name: Barrager              Short Range Light Titan
Chassis: Morola  L3               Design: Widowmaker     
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Weight: 70.0t (70t maximum)       Height     : 9 [meter]
Bmt   : 20 (60 kph)               Reduce Heat: -2.40C/sec.
Jmt   : 12 (100 kph) for 85 secs  Cost       : 150645($)


Equipment:
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Component/Type/Location

Engine  :Morola M1 [Engine 1] [CT  ]
HeatReg.:Smac Corp.  [Heat 5]
LifeSup.:Livotto     [Life 1] [Head]
Scanner :Mark M-S   [Scan. 5] [CBT ]
Computer:Krios K5   [Comp. 5] [CT  ]
JumpPort:Morola MJ   [Jump 4]


Weapons:
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Location/Weapon/Ammunition/Slots

[LA  ]  S.R.M. 4 RACK        (022) [1]
[LA  ]  S.R.M. 4 RACK        (022) [1]
[RA  ]  S.R.M. 4 RACK        (022) [1]
[RA  ]  S.R.M. 4 RACK        (022) [1]
[LT  ]  S.R.M. 8 RACK        (011) [1]
[RT  ]  S.R.M. 8 RACK        (011) [1]


Armor:
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Loc/Internal/Armor/Status/Points/mm

[Head] (11) Dullaroy  HMAX 018 [026mm]
[RT  ] (17) Vicenium  (W)  025 [042mm]
[CT  ] (21) Dullaroy  (S)  027 [039mm]
[CBT ] (11) Dullaroy  (S)  020 [029mm]
[LT  ] (17) Vicenium  (W)  025 [042mm]
[RA  ] (19) Vicenium  (W)  025 [042mm]
[LA  ] (19) Vicenium  (W)  025 [042mm]
[LowT] (13) Vicenium  (W)  025 [042mm]
[RL  ] (17) Vicenium  (W)  025 [042mm]
[LL  ] (17) Vicenium  (W)  025 [042mm]

Armor Index:   5.74 [Total APts/T]
Internal:    162  [APts]
External:    240  [APts]   Max:[054mm]
Total Armor: 402  [APts]


JOCK requirements:
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Piloting: Light Titan incl. Jump           
Weapons : N.G.M.                           
Warfare : Scanner                          
Skills  : Medic  Ind.Fire                  

This is the Titan that weighs 69.97 and slows when 1 mm of armor is added to the Head:

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Titan Name: Genghis               Close Combat Light Titan
Chassis: Morola  L3               Design: Widowmaker     
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Weight: 70.0t (70t maximum)       Height     : 9 [meter]
Bmt   : 20 (60 kph)               Reduce Heat: -3.45C/sec.
Jmt   : 14 (85 kph) for 64 secs   Cost       : 142125($)


Equipment:
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Component/Type/Location

Engine  :Krios K4  [Engine 4] [CT  ]
HeatReg.:Delinit H6  [Heat 6]
LifeSup.:Livotto     [Life 1] [CBT ]
Scanner :Triton     [Scan. 4] [LT  ]
Computer:Triton TC  [Comp. 4] [RT  ]
JumpPort:Aerojol     [Jump 2]


Weapons:
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Location/Weapon/Ammunition/Slots

[LA  ]  POWER AXE           
[RA  ]  POWER AXE           
[Head]  MEDIUM LASER        
[Head]  MEDIUM LASER        


Armor:
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Loc/Internal/Armor/Status/Points/mm

[Head] (11) Dullaroy       017 [025mm]
[RT  ] (17) Millenia  (W)  025 [050mm]
[CT  ] (21) Millenia  (W)  025 [050mm]
[CBT ] (11) Vicenium  (W)  015 [026mm]
[LT  ] (17) Millenia  (W)  025 [050mm]
[RA  ] (19) Vicenium  (W)  025 [042mm]
[LA  ] (19) Vicenium  (W)  025 [042mm]
[LowT] (13) Vicenium  (W)  025 [042mm]
[RL  ] (17) Millenia  (W)  025 [050mm]
[LL  ] (17) Millenia  (W)  025 [050mm]

Armor Index:   5.63 [Total APts/T]
Internal:    162  [APts]
External:    232  [APts]   Max:[054mm]
Total Armor: 394  [APts]


JOCK requirements:
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Piloting: Light Titan incl. Jump           
Weapons : Energy  C.C.                     
Warfare : Scanner                          
Skills  : Medic                            

widowmaker

[Thorgrim]

Yep, this happens in every weight class. I had already spotted the medium Tracker, which weighs 100.0002t .

The BMT shown is the max BMT, that is when the titan has the exact max weight possible (or more ). Of course, it's nearly impossible to get to the exact max weight.

[widowmaker]

I haven't played around with the heavier Titans yet, so I wasn't sure if it affected them or not. I checked the Recon weight chasses, and all of them reached their listed Bmt several tons below 40, so when the Lights didn't, I thought it might be worth reporting.

Not an overly large issue, I'll admit, but I'm a little nitpicky. And if nitpicks are the biggest problems I can find with this game, I'm going to love it a long time.

widowmaker

[widowmaker]

Attachments are working again, so here's the two Titans I mentioned.

widowmaker

[Sleeping_Dragon]

Yep, this happens in every weight class. I had already spotted the medium Tracker, which weighs 100.0002t.

That's what.. 6 1/2 ounces? You can lose that much wieght by removing the lucky bobblehead doll and the cupholder from the cockpit