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August 64 was a very busy month. The screenshot below shows the results of the 5 battles. I've indicated the winning side with an asterisk (two asterisks is a strategic victory that impacts the political score). In Virginia, Beauregard gained initiative, and with the help of some hastily repaired rail lines was able to react to Sherman's move to Winchester, soundly defeating him and gaining Beauregard's 10 major victory of the war (he is now has a 4 attack rating, one more MV and he'll have a 4 defense rating as well, and will join Lee at the top). The bad news in Virginia however was that Longstreet was wounded. This was a terrible blow and I have no one of Longstreet's caliber to replace him.

In Georgia, Lee held off Grant once again. With Grant not having initiative, he wasn't giving his combat bonus to his units. The fact that the army did as well as it did is a testament to the quality of the corps commanders there, the experience of the troops, and the huge Union artillery advantage (several battalions of heavy artillery were left in Atlanta as they are not allowed to move in the reaction phase).

In Tennessee, the Confederates fought a delaying action before retreating to Chattanooga where Thomas Jackson and several units from the Army of Mississippi arrived to stabilize the situation.

In Wilmington, a Union amphibious force caused a number of casualties to the defending Confederates before the Confederates withdrew to the Wilmington fortifications and the Union army decided they were not strong enough to take the town.

This brings us to Darlington and the mistake that may prove to have gotten Lincoln elected. Joe Johnston in Columbia did not have initiative in August. Although his army was close enough to move to Darlington (up the rail line from Columbia towards Wilmington), the lack of initiative meant that he would not be able to give his command bonus to more than the few units that started in Darlington. This represents that he did not react quickly enough to maximize his defense of Darlington. Knowing this, I could have declined a major engagement and instead remained in Columbia. Of course, losing Darlington would strain the Confederate ability to protect both Columbia and Wilmington. Going into the battle, I knew that I could get 50,000 troops to Darlington, but didn't know how large the enemy army was. I gambled that the Union army wasn't big enough to push aside a major Confederate army. This proved disastrous as the Union army was 75000 strong and without the Johnston's combat bonus, he couldn't beat Sheridan. The battle odds at the end were 1.15 to 1, and Sheridan one a strategic victory.

The new of all of these battles was a gain of about 20 political points for both sides, terrible attrition, and a bad strategic situation for the Confederacy. On the other hand, the Union movements gave my cavalry several chances for raiding. Wade Hampton followed Grant's army back to Augusta and harassed it mercilessly, destroying an capturing 41 supplies, trashing the rail system, and rendering the depot there impotent. Wheeler's cavalry slipped past Sheridan's army after the battle of Darlington and trashed the depots in Georgetown. Both Grant and Sheridan will be paying double supply costs to supply their army next turn. In Mississippi, Forrest went wild, causing 50,000 Union troops to have to pay double supply costs in September. The destruction to supplies, the added supply costs, and the supplies needed to repair the rail damage amounts to nearly 300 supply points. I'm pretty sure that some of the Union army will be short on supply next turn (perhaps as much as 100,000 troops), and the Union will have a hard time replacing the units lost, repairing the rail lines, and restocking it's supplies. Also, in September, Lyon in Tennessee, Sheridan in South Carolina, and Grant in Georgia will not be getting depot bonuses for initiative. On average, only 1 or 2 Union generals should get initiative next turn.

Of course the Union doesn't need much now, only about 20 more political points, in order to get Lincoln re-elected.



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This screen shows the poltical situation at the end of August 1864, and the locations and command ratings of the various Theatre and Army Commanders.

Political score is: Union 1005 Confederate 1122

My one remaining raider was successful last turn and cost the Union a political point. Two more months until the election.

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ORIGINAL: PyleDriver The fresh recruits play in well because they can garrison and train, while trained troops can go to the front. I'm getting close to a 3 to 1 advantage in infantry but 1/3 of my troops are in garrisons duties. So these fresh recruits do the same as trained troops behind the lines, and allow me rotate trained troops to front line action. My black solders make up 20% of the Union army now. I hoped to bust into rear to black rich recruitment areas, but Joel has kept from that...He can't handle this attrition much longer...But my time is running short...

Which areas provide the best black recruitment numbers?

I was also curious if the Union can recruit in those captured areas of the South where pro-Union sentiment was strong, like Knoxville, Tennesse and West Virginia. Conversely, can the South recruit in a Pro-Southern state like Maryland, if they capture it?
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ORIGINAL: Bo Rearguard

Which areas provide the best black recruitment numbers?

I was also curious if the Union can recruit in those captured areas of the South where pro-Union sentiment was strong, like Knoxville, Tennesse and West Virginia. Conversely, can the South recruit in a Pro-Southern state like Maryland, if they capture it?

Charleston, New Orleans, and some other big city areas are best, but there are many areas that have black population. As for the neutral states, yes, there are many rules regarding population in these areas going north and south, depending on the allegiance of the state at the time and who physically occupies the population areas.
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Well September brought good and bad news agian. Pope resigned for 3 months and left his command. Sheridan had initiative but with 20,000 men left with no leadership, Sheridan elected to turn east into Marlboro with his remaing corps commannders Logan, Meade, and Thomas. This 40,000 plus army should do well as Johnstons army cant react in time now that Darlington is in Union hands and Beauregard can't risk to move is army that far south of Richmond. Needing a big political victory, Lincoln ordered Sheridan to Little Rock. With him came 36,000 men and 80 guns. Depots were built, and 2 rich areas are in the grasp of the Union...Mitchell's Cav overran Livingston TN as Confederate forces witdrew across the Tennessee River. Amphibious invasions of the east coast of FL have begun also. Sherman, Grant and Leon withdrew to there supply centers as CSA Cav is ripping up supply lines. It's time for for the Union to get the unspotted bonus now...I'm have 995 pp's now, I should get 11 more this turn, after the turn I loose 12, add 1 more for the raider, I should only need 7 for Lincolns reelection. I'm poised to get those points if I get the initiative. Lincoln's not sleeping well these days...lol...I've had 44,000 new recruits the last 2 months without a draft, I need to keep pressing them, their bound to break soon. If Lincoln is reelected the CSA loose 100 pp's a month, thats 800 pp's. I need another 400 pp's in victories to win this one (I loose 12 a turn also)...This is as close as it gets guys. Not easy playing the guy that knows every equation of the game, but I got him on his toes...

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Early battle reports are out. Thomas, Logan and Meade hit Marlboro hard. With only 1700 losses, they caused 5500 losses for the CSA, which they can't afford. Portions of So. FL are in Union hands now. Lyon was spotted with his 2 corps and artillery support north of Jackson MS. I had hoped to spring on Jackson MS by suprise, but I'm sure Stonewall will be back to stop any move southward. Sherman and Grant have good supply lines now, and hope to attack or counterattack in force, as the reelection and winter is nearing. Sheridan has enough power to overrun AR now...Oh God I need initiative, hear my prayers....Reports are that Beauregard plans a counterattack in VA...Lincoln is not sleeping much now...lol...Me also...Hell, you know it's bad when you have dream's about a game, and have to check your mail every hour...It's that good guys...

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October looks grim for the Union. Beaureguard made a counterstroke into Fredricksburg with Early, Hill and Heth, and hit Pecks corps hard, and I suffered 6620 losses and 40 guns. CSA losses were light at 2000 and 10 guns. I took a gamble and moved Sherman's army to Charleston SC, and had no AC to react. I lost 12 pp's in the battle and need 18 now to reelect. Now the bad news, yes it gets worse, Sheridan and Grant are sitting on there army's. Mitchells cav overran the rest of the areas west of the TN river (2pp's). Lyon sent one corps up the AR river to Fayetteville AR (7pp's). McClellen sent 4000 men to land in Lafayette LA (2pp's). Sherman sent 8000 men to 4 areas to subdue the rest of FL (8pp's). Thats the number I need for Lincolns reelection, and could sit on that. I have Shermans army poised to attack Columbia SC. Knowing time is short and winter is near, Lincoln has given the order to attack Johnstons army in Columbia. This is the turn to see if we go into overtime...Lyon is missing agian, reports are Lincoln recalled him to Washington to rebuild the AotP. Grant moved his army closer to Atlanta and is well supplied believing Shermans claims to take Columbia. Sheridan is still in Little Rock...

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Note: The following report was written just prior to Jon's report regarding Union October operations but he managed to post just before me.


As Jon reported, the Union army advanced up the coast towards Wilmington. I didn't have the forces to fight more than a delaying action, and another division was lost in the process (John Walker's division). It looks like recent Union victories are going to put Lincoln over the top, although I've decided to try to influence the election by taking the offensive and trying to recapture Fredericksburg. Beauregard has moved out from Richmond and was joined by some troops returning from the recent action in the Shenandoah Valley. Sherman has disappeared, as has Grant, so one of them is either in Washington or both of them are in the South Carolina/Georgia area (at least those are the two most likely explanations of there whereabouts). If in Washington, I might suffer a setback in Fredericksburg, but I have to risk it. My lines are stretched very thin. Intelligence reports Lyon is in Clarksdale (north of Jackson and on the Mississippi River), and Sheridan is in Little Rock. Arkansas is vulnerable as is Jackson and the rail line to the east. With Union spies everywhere, I'm afraid I can't report on the specific actions I have taken to try to counter the Union moves. I can only say that I have to hope that the Union generals are unable to get initiative in October. If none of them get initiative, and I win in Fredericksburg, Lincoln will lose the election. I am bracing myself for Lincoln's re-election given average Union initiative in October.

The Political Score at the end of September 1864 was: Union 1006 Confederate 1117.

Union PPs will fall to 994 at the start of October, and if I take Fredericksburg, they will drop by either 12 or 22 points depending on whether I win a strategic victory or just a major victory. It's close, but several of the Union leaders are probably in a position to gain the required points to get Lincoln re-elected.
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Great AAR.  Just a quick question.  Is there defensive bonuses/offensive penalties depending which province you are attacking from and into?  Eg - Marsh into normal flat land.  And is there an easy way of checking this through tool tips or the like?
 
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Yes there is a ground combat modifier of -1 for mountain, marsh and forest areas, they are all considered rough terrain for the attacker.
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There is a chart in the manual that lists combat modifiers. More important than the terrain combat impact (which is for both attacker and defender), is the impact on the number of troops that can be committed. In bad terrain areas, less units will tend to be committed to the battle, preventing the larger army from taking full advantage of it's numbers (and thus helping the Confederate player even up what might be a bad situation for their usually outnumbered forces).
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Another point I'll add. After militia is trained to Infantry, they can gain additional attack and defense bonus after battles. They gain stars, each star represents die roll modifiers. 1 star are experienced troops and have a plus 1 modifier, 2 stars are veteran with a plus 2, 3 stars are elite and get a plus 3...So in our AAR even though I outnumber Joel 3 to 1, alot of his troops are veteran and elite. That with his great leadership, Lee, Jackson, Beauregard and Johnston, will make this a tough fight...I need Sherman to win in Columbia to see how this plays out...

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Jon has things figured out pretty well and Lincoln is likely to be re-elected. He was missing one thing though, and that is that I can oppose his landing in Louisiana. If he had not attacked Columbia, I would oppose the landing in Louisiana and I'm pretty sure I could beat it off. That would leave the Union at 999 PP's, and Lincoln would lose the election. Long term it might cost me however, so I'm still debating what to do there. Since he attacked Columbia, the 2 political points in Louisiana are not important. Columbia is the ballgame. The news there is not good for the Confederacy. Joe Johnston once again failed to get initiative. Polk, Johnston's Theatre Commander, failed to get initiative, leaving Johnston with a 50% chance for initiative. Had Polk gotten initiative, a 50% chance, Johnston's odds would have gone up to 79%. This failure in leadership means that I can only defend Columbia with about 35,000 troops, instead of 50,000, and many of those 35,000 will not get Johnston's combat bonuses. There are another 6,000 troops nearby that also are unable to reach due to their commander's lack of initiative. I don't know how many troops Sherman is bringing to Columbia (if it weren't for Jon's posts, I wouldn't even know it was Sherman). Had all 56,000 troops showed up, things might be different. As it is, I don't expect to win this battle, but seeing as it's for the election, I have to put up a fight in case it's a smaller thrust than I expect. So here we are, it's late October 1864 and the Union army is moving to capture Columbia, South Carolina. The entire North waits to hear if the Union armies will be denied once again, or whether the South has finally been weakened sufficiently to surrender another of it's major cities.
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Union attacks on Fayetteville and Florida were successful. The attack on the Louisiana coast by 4000 Union soldiers was repulsed. The Union political score is 999 VPs. It can't get any closer than this. At this point, the Battle of Columbia begins. The screenshot below shows the opening moments of the battle.

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As the battle rages, additional Union forces enter the battle. Sherman commits 40,000 troops, Johnston 30,000...
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Sherman brings up another corps and reaches 60,000 troops committed. Johnston brings his total to 32,400. Losses are fairly even, heading past 6000 soldiers for each side...
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Lacking Gordon's corps that was unable to reach the battlefield, Johnston finally withdraws. Lincoln will remain President.

Jefferson Davis declares the Confederacy will fight on.

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Well Joel, you know as the Union you have to be the agressor no matter the losses. So I got a break, wow about time. I'll need about 10 more to win this game...lol...400 pp's are going to be hard to get over the next 8 months, unless Richmond falls (the CSA losses an additional 100 pp's per month). Atlanta will be a good starting point, Grant has all his bad boys there now, I added Thomas to his army. Lets see how Lee fairs in this upcoming battle...If I get initiative this winter I may just break this wide open in the spring...If, If, If, my dad told me thats the biggest word in the world...lol...But its true...

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Well its time for me to rethink what the Union will do. Unless the CSA has a total collaspe (which I will try to do), I need to take Richmond. The fall of Columbia has taken SC out of the war. Her population and production (he built an extra factory there) will be missed I'm sure. Black recruits in Columbia are in line now, 6000 will be in arms by spring. Sherman in the center of the South with Grant has got to be a troublesome. Sheridan will take AR this winter, I hope, and will be back to counter balance this war. Joel's still not sure where Lyon is, he may have got false information. I do plan to hit the CSA hard any chance I get. Equal losses are huge losses at this stage of the war for him. I'm looking to have a Lee/Grant heads up battle, I have the best 4 Union corps commanders with him, I need to cut the east-west railroad...I may still pull this game out...

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With Columbia lost, Confederate forces regroup in North Carolina. Beauregard, fighting with renewed confidence after his victory in Fredericksburg, moves southeast to attack the Union forces adjacent to Richmond in New Kent. Lee braces for what seems to be an inevitable showdown with Grant in Georgia. With the whereabouts of Lyon unknown, Jackson also disappears behind the lines with a few of his favorite commanders (and troops) in order to keep the Union guessing. Bad weather has arrived and movements of the armies will slow, as will hopefully the actions of the Union Army commanders.

The Poltical score at the end of October 1864: Union 1026 Confederate 1093

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