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Some of this is available free - vol I and II of the Amphibians Came to Conquer from the Marines. Much more WWII stuff is out there. For example the entire US Army Green Book series seems to be on the Army site.

http://www.marines.mil/Portals/59/Publi ... 164058-683

http://www.marines.mil/Portals/59/Publi ... l%20II.pdf

Also things like the Artillery Mag - lots of WWII Pacific stuff - yea it's ground combat, but quite interesting.
http://sill-www.army.mil/firesbulletin/archives/#1940

Then there's Naval Anti-Aircraft Guns and Gunnery - Norman Friedman that I posted about a few days ago (I couldn't find this link)
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With a fat bonus, I recently acquired the complete "History of the Second World War" in almost pristine condition with their binders. Hog Heaven!!!!!!
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History of United States Naval Operations in World War II 15 Volume Set by RADM S. E. Morison

Some of these volumes were excellent. Others plodded a bit. Be honest-did you get much out of volumes 14 or 15? [;)]
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History of United States Naval Operations in World War II 15 Volume Set by RADM S. E. Morison

Some of these volumes were excellent. Others plodded a bit. Be honest-did you get much out of volumes 14 or 15? [;)]
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Warspite - I agree with you on The Fast Carriers. Even though it is kinda old, it is a really great read.
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Warspite - I agree with you on The Fast Carriers. Even though it is kinda old, it is a really great read.

Just ordered this.
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I have recently finished a book that I think deserves mention in the Setting the Stage category:
Warships After Washingtonby John Jordan, from the Naval Institute Press is a look at how the signatories of the Washington naval treaty attempted to meet the limits of the treaty while still producing viable warships. The main focus is on design, with doctrine only mentioned in so far as it influenced design. As a fascinating bonus, there are 2 appendices with the full texts of the Washington and London naval treaties.
This is actually the first book I have read that explains the odd-sounding decision of the French to have all the main batteries on some of their capital ships in the front. It was adopted from a British design intended to reduce the size of the "citadel" and thus weight of armor.
I recommend it.
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I have recently finished a book that I think deserves mention in the Setting the Stage category:
Warships After Washingtonby John Jordan, from the Naval Institute Press is a look at how the signatories of the Washington naval treaty attempted to meet the limits of the treaty while still producing viable warships. The main focus is on design, with doctrine only mentioned in so far as it influenced design. As a fascinating bonus, there are 2 appendices with the full texts of the Washington and London naval treaties.
This is actually the first book I have read that explains the odd-sounding decision of the French to have all the main batteries on some of their capital ships in the front. It was adopted from a British design intended to reduce the size of the "citadel" and thus weight of armor.
I recommend it.

Heartily concur. EXCELLENT book. The section describing the Hybrid Cruiser--Carriers spun my Mods in a whole new direction. Very informative book.
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John 3rd - You will really enjoy Fast Carriers.
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An interesting discussion has developed in the modding thread about Japan's options in 1941.

Does anyone know any good books on Japan's journey to war - and specifically the internal and external discussions, debates and communications on the options available re China, and what to do about Roosevelt's screw tightening on Japan's economic position?

I have read Rising Sun and The Road to War as well as countless books that touch on the subject high level. I am looking for something much more detailed that covers the thoughts of the army, the navy, the Emperor's role and those poor anti-war politicians who had to walk a fine line between trying to do what was best for Japan's long term future and the personal wish to keep their heads firmly attached to their body's.....

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It seems to me that the Japanese aren't much into writing histories, kind of like they weren't and maybe still aren't much into collecting intelligence. Notice below that only three out of eleven (not a scientific sample) is Japanese. Anyways a good place to start looking might be those two Wiki's.


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Well, maybe not.

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Here's Hata's list, might be some interesting stuff in there.

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Here's Hata's list, might be some interesting stuff in there.

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I may have mentioned this before, but I was greatly impressed with this book when I was a teen. It mostly involves military issues but it's no fun to read. Kind of the way "Private Ryan" was no fun (for me). Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee. I didn't realize it til today, or forgot, the Sand Creek Massacre occurred on my birthday. No, I'm not that old, it wasn't my birthday at the time (1864).

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

An interesting discussion has developed in the modding thread about Japan's options in 1941.

Does anyone know any good books on Japan's journey to war - and specifically the internal and external discussions, debates and communications on the options available re China, and what to do about Roosevelt's screw tightening on Japan's economic position?

I have read Rising Sun and The Road to War as well as countless books that touch on the subject high level. I am looking for something much more detailed that covers the thoughts of the army, the navy, the Emperor's role and those poor anti-war politicians who had to walk a fine line between trying to do what was best for Japan's long term future and the personal wish to keep their heads firmly attached to their body's.....

Thanks.

Last year I read a book on this topic called Japan 1941 by Eri Hota. It talks about the private face and public face views of the admirals, statesmen, and generals. I found it an interesting read.
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ORIGINAL: Mike Dubost

ORIGINAL: warspite1

An interesting discussion has developed in the modding thread about Japan's options in 1941.

Does anyone know any good books on Japan's journey to war - and specifically the internal and external discussions, debates and communications on the options available re China, and what to do about Roosevelt's screw tightening on Japan's economic position?

I have read Rising Sun and The Road to War as well as countless books that touch on the subject high level. I am looking for something much more detailed that covers the thoughts of the army, the navy, the Emperor's role and those poor anti-war politicians who had to walk a fine line between trying to do what was best for Japan's long term future and the personal wish to keep their heads firmly attached to their body's.....

Thanks.

Last year I read a book on this topic called Japan 1941 by Eri Hota. It talks about the private face and public face views of the admirals, statesmen, and generals. I found it an interesting read.
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Mike this has really mixed reviews on Amazon. Does this book go into any detail on the Japanese options in 1941? For example is there any mention of the April 1941 pact with the USSR, who instigated it etc?

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You may try "Japan 1941" by Eri Hotta. I found it a bit ponderous but it covers the dysfunctional mess that Japan was in in 1941.
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ORIGINAL: pontiouspilot

You may try "Japan 1941" by Eri Hotta. I found it a bit ponderous but it covers the dysfunctional mess that Japan was in in 1941.
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