Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
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RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Chickenboy, I'm not using Tokyo at all to offload my resources. I'm trying to use small ports for the most part.

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RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
In the beginning of this thread you posted a very nice and detailed breakdown on hulls and where you were going to send them to use for tranferring resources to Honshu.
I being the good little copy cat disciple that i am, I studiously copied all that down. In my new game (my honorable adversary and I decided to start over after this last patch came out) I pretty much sent the same amount of hulls to the same places to use for the resource convoy.
It is now the Dec 9th turn, untill this resource thing is strightened out, should I go ahead and start ferrying the resources to Honshu in the same quanities from the same places or not? [&:]
I being the good little copy cat disciple that i am, I studiously copied all that down. In my new game (my honorable adversary and I decided to start over after this last patch came out) I pretty much sent the same amount of hulls to the same places to use for the resource convoy.
It is now the Dec 9th turn, untill this resource thing is strightened out, should I go ahead and start ferrying the resources to Honshu in the same quanities from the same places or not? [&:]
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
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Another oversight. I forgot to mention that I took Miri. Total damage to the industry there (in addition to the 150 oil and refinery that starts damaged) was 1 oil and 1 refinery. I'm going to repair 1 refinery (I like round numbers [:D]) and 151 oil.
Waste of 1000 supplies on the refinery, but it's your funeral[:D]
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In the beginning of this thread you posted a very nice and detailed breakdown on hulls and where you were going to send them to use for tranferring resources to Honshu.
I being the good little copy cat disciple that i am, I studiously copied all that down. In my new game (my honorable adversary and I decided to start over after this last patch came out) I pretty much sent the same amount of hulls to the same places to use for the resource convoy.
It is now the Dec 9th turn, untill this resource thing is strightened out, should I go ahead and start ferrying the resources to Honshu in the same quanities from the same places or not? [&:]
Until the hotfix is released I'd recommend loading resources from their origin but not sending the ships to Honshu. That's what I'm doing. In addition to that, if you see any Honshu ports approaching 999,999, use all available xAKs in the area to load resources to try and keep it down. Once you install the hotfix, start unloading those cargos in Honshu and start those other TFs moving to Honshu. At least that's what I'm trying and Tokyo still is pegged out at 999,999. [8|] I may just wait for the hotfix before continuing.
Edit: I recommend sending a lot more Adens to Pt. Arthur. Resources are accumulating there fast. I'm up to about 20 right now.

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Another oversight. I forgot to mention that I took Miri. Total damage to the industry there (in addition to the 150 oil and refinery that starts damaged) was 1 oil and 1 refinery. I'm going to repair 1 refinery (I like round numbers [:D]) and 151 oil.
Waste of 1000 supplies on the refinery, but it's your funeral[:D]
Just me being anal. The thought of producing 149*9=1341 fuel a day would drive me nuts.


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Oh yeah Q-Ball, my supply is currently increasing. Maybe I'm forgetting to do something. [:D]

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12 Dec 41
Well, More good things happened today (but that's to be expected at this point in the war, right).
Japan
It looks like the hotfix will solve the resource issue for Honshu. For those of you who haven't seen the fix, the max has gone from 999,999 to 99,999,999. I think that should do it. [:D] My movement of resources to Honshu is currently on hold with the TFs loading but staying in port.
China
Ted has sent a small horde of Chinese to Ichang. We'll see what he does next turn.
I bombarded in Hong Kong for minor losses on both sides.
Sinyang - I drove the Chinese Corps out this turn taking 43 casuaties to 2485 Chinese casualties. Another combat ineffective Chinese corps for awhile. [:D]
NW of Kaifeng, I attacked a Chinese Corps at 1:2 odds and 166 losses to 291 Chinese losses.
Two hexes north of ANking I attacked another Chinese corps. This one didn't turn out as well, with me taking 672 losses to 99 Chinese. What were these guys thinking?
Philippines
The air was was one sided with no Japanese losses to the following Allied losses (all shot down):
8x P-40E
2x P-26A
2x B-17D Banzai!
The Navy wasn't to be outdone. They did the following:
8 Brit MTBs attacked my SAG at Iba (2 CA, 1 CL, 2 DD) and were vaporized. Pretty much, if an 8" shell hits one, it's obliterated. [:D]
The DD Pope found my SAG (1 CL, 7 DD) at Legaspi and promptly went down.
The IJNAF had to do their bit too:
Six Bettys put 3 torps into an Allied xAK and watched her go down.
The IJA didn't want to be left out:
They captured Lingayan (50:1) causing 1438 casualties to 128 Japanese casualties. I sent some forces to the hex to the SE. By capturing that hex, they'll cut Luzon in two. More troops are going to move SW to Clark field shortly. The only downside to all this is that an xAK took damage from CD guns and went down and a PB that took damage yesterday also went down.
Malaya
We landed forces at Kuantan.
The air war was costly to both sides today. We lost 2 Zeros to 6 Buffalos, all shot down. When is he going to run out of Buffalos?
Ryujo Saga
The Ryujo damage is now 52-26(5)-21(4)-0, with flooding down a point. The Hatsukaze dropped to 49-22(11)-11-0 (flot down 2 points). Their TF is only 1 hex from Babeldaob. They'll make it to port, but we'll see what happens next.
SE Fleet
We took Hollandia. We're still working toward the Rabaul invasion, which is about a week away.
4th Fleet
The Wake invasion is imminent. Nothing else exciting going on there at the moment.
Other Stuff
The I-123 remained the same at 27-82(71)-17(9)-0. Recall that her flot damage was 98 when she hit the mine. Also note that she's 2 weeks sail from ports. I'm keeping my fingers crossed on this one and hoping for the best.
Well, More good things happened today (but that's to be expected at this point in the war, right).
Japan
It looks like the hotfix will solve the resource issue for Honshu. For those of you who haven't seen the fix, the max has gone from 999,999 to 99,999,999. I think that should do it. [:D] My movement of resources to Honshu is currently on hold with the TFs loading but staying in port.
China
Ted has sent a small horde of Chinese to Ichang. We'll see what he does next turn.
I bombarded in Hong Kong for minor losses on both sides.
Sinyang - I drove the Chinese Corps out this turn taking 43 casuaties to 2485 Chinese casualties. Another combat ineffective Chinese corps for awhile. [:D]
NW of Kaifeng, I attacked a Chinese Corps at 1:2 odds and 166 losses to 291 Chinese losses.
Two hexes north of ANking I attacked another Chinese corps. This one didn't turn out as well, with me taking 672 losses to 99 Chinese. What were these guys thinking?
Philippines
The air was was one sided with no Japanese losses to the following Allied losses (all shot down):
8x P-40E
2x P-26A
2x B-17D Banzai!
The Navy wasn't to be outdone. They did the following:
8 Brit MTBs attacked my SAG at Iba (2 CA, 1 CL, 2 DD) and were vaporized. Pretty much, if an 8" shell hits one, it's obliterated. [:D]
The DD Pope found my SAG (1 CL, 7 DD) at Legaspi and promptly went down.
The IJNAF had to do their bit too:
Six Bettys put 3 torps into an Allied xAK and watched her go down.
The IJA didn't want to be left out:
They captured Lingayan (50:1) causing 1438 casualties to 128 Japanese casualties. I sent some forces to the hex to the SE. By capturing that hex, they'll cut Luzon in two. More troops are going to move SW to Clark field shortly. The only downside to all this is that an xAK took damage from CD guns and went down and a PB that took damage yesterday also went down.
Malaya
We landed forces at Kuantan.
The air war was costly to both sides today. We lost 2 Zeros to 6 Buffalos, all shot down. When is he going to run out of Buffalos?
Ryujo Saga
The Ryujo damage is now 52-26(5)-21(4)-0, with flooding down a point. The Hatsukaze dropped to 49-22(11)-11-0 (flot down 2 points). Their TF is only 1 hex from Babeldaob. They'll make it to port, but we'll see what happens next.
SE Fleet
We took Hollandia. We're still working toward the Rabaul invasion, which is about a week away.
4th Fleet
The Wake invasion is imminent. Nothing else exciting going on there at the moment.
Other Stuff
The I-123 remained the same at 27-82(71)-17(9)-0. Recall that her flot damage was 98 when she hit the mine. Also note that she's 2 weeks sail from ports. I'm keeping my fingers crossed on this one and hoping for the best.

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RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Congrats on the b-17 kills....always good to see.......any news on Boise.......?
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RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Nothing on Boise, faber. The battle was really long, so I suspect she's low on ammo. Ted said that she was lying in ambush and reacted to the Ryujo. He didn't expect that.

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Nothing on Boise, faber. The battle was really long, so I suspect she's low on ammo. Ted said that she was lying in ambush and reacted to the Ryujo. He didn't expect that.

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RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Mike, is the hotfix for increasing resource stocks available yet, or something we are waiting on?
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Mike, is the hotfix for increasing resource stocks available yet, or something we are waiting on?
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Nope, it's not out yet, but Joe Wilkerson(?) said he hopes it'll be out this week.

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13 Dec 41
4th Fleet
The long awaited invasion of Wake occurred today. KB launched 134 Kates escorted by 14 Zeros. They found 10 Wildcats waiting for them and shot down 4 Wildcats for no loss. I really like the ability to set an air unit to naval attack with a secondary mission of ground attack. We were never able to do that in WitP. Anyway, the invasion fleet went in and landed it's troops. Accurate Marine CD gunfire hit the Katori, an xAKL and 6 PBs with 20x 5" shells. All of the ships are expected to survive. The troops went in and shock attacked the stunned Marines, taking the island and 1983 prisoners for 103 casualties. The garrison is a NG unit and a SNLF. I'll scrounge up some engineers to build up the forts. I'm not sure if I'll keep the SNLF there.
KB is headed to Kwajalein where the Akagi, Kaga, 2 BBs and escorts will set up their home for awhile in case of an Allied incursion. The rest of KB will head to Truk then south to Rabaul and Pt. Moresby, which brings us to.....
SE Fleet
The Admiralty Islands invasion force just moved on to Wewak and landed there today. The Rabaul invasion force continues to plod south.
Mindinao
The Hosho & Zuiho TF found some targets east of Mindinao. The Hosho's Kates put down an xAK (which had been torpedoed by the RO-33 earlier in the day). The Zuiho's Kates sank an xAKL and damaged an xAK.
The Ryujo didn't enter the port of Babeldaob (because of the reef hexsides). Now she's really only one hex from port. Her damage improved slightly to 52-25(5)-21(4)-0 and the Hatsukaze is about the same as yesterday.
The I-123 is still limping to port (28 hexes out) and had her flot damage improve by 1 - 28-81(71)-16(9)-0.
Philippines
There was very little Allied air power today. I sweep over all the occupied Allied airfields and ran into only 2 P-49Es, shooting down one.
I've effectively cut the Philippines into 3 sections. The breakout from Lingayan has isolated 2 Philippine divisions from Manila and I finally landed at Atimonan isolating Naga from Manila. Not sure if there are any troops down there though.
A US sub sank an SC at Vigan, but in return ate a DC. Hopefully, this was enough to send her packing.
Malaya
The RAF is still contesting Malaya, but Buffalo numbers are lower than a week ago. For the loss of 1 Zero we shot down 6 Buffalos, 1 Blenheim IV, 1 Hudson and a Swordfish. That makes 33 Buffalos shot down over Singapore since the war began. I wonder how many they have left?
The RAF (and Dutch and whoever else they're scraping up) still have teeth. A Do-24K-1(!) put a 300kg bomb into the Kongo. I don't think this did much damage, but later a Swordfish put a torpedo into her. She'll survive but a couple of DDs are escorting her to Cam Ranh Bay (she can't go to Saigon) for repairs. Her damage stands at 6-34(28)-2-0. An xAK was also hit at Kuantan and later in the day sank. On the positive side, we liberated Kuantan, causing almost 1000 casualties to 64 losses. Kuantan is really a poor invasion site, due to the poor roads.
China
Various firefights are occurring, with the Chinese almost always taking the brunt of the losses. The only place I'm concerned is at Ichang. They have 6 or 7 corps there against my division (and a very poor garrison division). I should have evacuated the place. I bombarded and caused 111 casualties. We'll see what happens. I attacked some Chinese 3 hexes W of Chingting and routed them, causing 2500 casualties to 231 Japanese casualties. I also bombarded Hong Kong, causing 138 Brit casualties.
Burma
Not much to talk about here. Mostly, the 15 Army is plodding northward. A tank regiment moved into Victoria Point and will attack tomorrow. This is significant because Victoria Point will be the jump off for the air invasion of Pt. Blair. There are air support and engineer units just about there with the 1st Raiding Unit leapfrogging it's way there too. I will probably detach an infantry regiment from the 25 Army to use as a temporary garrison until I figure out the permanant garrison. The 22 Air Flotilla is allocated to Pt. Blair. The Zeros from that Flotilla are the ones eating Buffalo every day. I hope the RAF in Malaya is subdued by the time Pt. Blair is ready to receive the 22 Air Flotilla.
Japan
Well, >90% of the resource hauling cargos are in place and most are fully loaded with resources. Here are some stats to show how significant the Tokyo resource black hole has been, in just a week of game time:
I started the war with 7.3 million resources. Today, one week later, I have 5.6 million on the map and another 900k on ships, making 6.5 million resources available. That's an 800k shortage. I should only be down about 15-20k in a week's period. Scary, ain't it? The amount of resources in Tokyo is down to ~925k, so the black hole isn't today. [:D]
4th Fleet
The long awaited invasion of Wake occurred today. KB launched 134 Kates escorted by 14 Zeros. They found 10 Wildcats waiting for them and shot down 4 Wildcats for no loss. I really like the ability to set an air unit to naval attack with a secondary mission of ground attack. We were never able to do that in WitP. Anyway, the invasion fleet went in and landed it's troops. Accurate Marine CD gunfire hit the Katori, an xAKL and 6 PBs with 20x 5" shells. All of the ships are expected to survive. The troops went in and shock attacked the stunned Marines, taking the island and 1983 prisoners for 103 casualties. The garrison is a NG unit and a SNLF. I'll scrounge up some engineers to build up the forts. I'm not sure if I'll keep the SNLF there.
KB is headed to Kwajalein where the Akagi, Kaga, 2 BBs and escorts will set up their home for awhile in case of an Allied incursion. The rest of KB will head to Truk then south to Rabaul and Pt. Moresby, which brings us to.....
SE Fleet
The Admiralty Islands invasion force just moved on to Wewak and landed there today. The Rabaul invasion force continues to plod south.
Mindinao
The Hosho & Zuiho TF found some targets east of Mindinao. The Hosho's Kates put down an xAK (which had been torpedoed by the RO-33 earlier in the day). The Zuiho's Kates sank an xAKL and damaged an xAK.
The Ryujo didn't enter the port of Babeldaob (because of the reef hexsides). Now she's really only one hex from port. Her damage improved slightly to 52-25(5)-21(4)-0 and the Hatsukaze is about the same as yesterday.
The I-123 is still limping to port (28 hexes out) and had her flot damage improve by 1 - 28-81(71)-16(9)-0.
Philippines
There was very little Allied air power today. I sweep over all the occupied Allied airfields and ran into only 2 P-49Es, shooting down one.
I've effectively cut the Philippines into 3 sections. The breakout from Lingayan has isolated 2 Philippine divisions from Manila and I finally landed at Atimonan isolating Naga from Manila. Not sure if there are any troops down there though.
A US sub sank an SC at Vigan, but in return ate a DC. Hopefully, this was enough to send her packing.
Malaya
The RAF is still contesting Malaya, but Buffalo numbers are lower than a week ago. For the loss of 1 Zero we shot down 6 Buffalos, 1 Blenheim IV, 1 Hudson and a Swordfish. That makes 33 Buffalos shot down over Singapore since the war began. I wonder how many they have left?
The RAF (and Dutch and whoever else they're scraping up) still have teeth. A Do-24K-1(!) put a 300kg bomb into the Kongo. I don't think this did much damage, but later a Swordfish put a torpedo into her. She'll survive but a couple of DDs are escorting her to Cam Ranh Bay (she can't go to Saigon) for repairs. Her damage stands at 6-34(28)-2-0. An xAK was also hit at Kuantan and later in the day sank. On the positive side, we liberated Kuantan, causing almost 1000 casualties to 64 losses. Kuantan is really a poor invasion site, due to the poor roads.
China
Various firefights are occurring, with the Chinese almost always taking the brunt of the losses. The only place I'm concerned is at Ichang. They have 6 or 7 corps there against my division (and a very poor garrison division). I should have evacuated the place. I bombarded and caused 111 casualties. We'll see what happens. I attacked some Chinese 3 hexes W of Chingting and routed them, causing 2500 casualties to 231 Japanese casualties. I also bombarded Hong Kong, causing 138 Brit casualties.
Burma
Not much to talk about here. Mostly, the 15 Army is plodding northward. A tank regiment moved into Victoria Point and will attack tomorrow. This is significant because Victoria Point will be the jump off for the air invasion of Pt. Blair. There are air support and engineer units just about there with the 1st Raiding Unit leapfrogging it's way there too. I will probably detach an infantry regiment from the 25 Army to use as a temporary garrison until I figure out the permanant garrison. The 22 Air Flotilla is allocated to Pt. Blair. The Zeros from that Flotilla are the ones eating Buffalo every day. I hope the RAF in Malaya is subdued by the time Pt. Blair is ready to receive the 22 Air Flotilla.
Japan
Well, >90% of the resource hauling cargos are in place and most are fully loaded with resources. Here are some stats to show how significant the Tokyo resource black hole has been, in just a week of game time:
I started the war with 7.3 million resources. Today, one week later, I have 5.6 million on the map and another 900k on ships, making 6.5 million resources available. That's an 800k shortage. I should only be down about 15-20k in a week's period. Scary, ain't it? The amount of resources in Tokyo is down to ~925k, so the black hole isn't today. [:D]

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RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
When you're nearing 100 buffaloes downed, the Malayan airforce is close to being wiped out, you're about 1/3rd there.
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100 huh? Didn't realize it was that many. Good to know....

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Admiral Solli-San:
Imperial Headquarters requests details of your operational plan to land on Java, specifically, our maps indicate Singkawang or maybe Billiton might be good places to land to establish air control south of Singapore, so that our forces can then easily liberate Java in late January from the Dutch colonialist yoke.
Intelligence indicates that the Dutch colonialists are due to receive Hurricanes starting in 3/42, and that their forces grow stronger with time, making an early landing highly advisable.
What forces do you plan? What is your target date for landing, and what bases will you capture along the way?
What are your plans in the Southern DEI, so that the Australian colonialists cannot interfere with us taking what is rightfully ours?
Imperial Headquarters requests details of your operational plan to land on Java, specifically, our maps indicate Singkawang or maybe Billiton might be good places to land to establish air control south of Singapore, so that our forces can then easily liberate Java in late January from the Dutch colonialist yoke.
Intelligence indicates that the Dutch colonialists are due to receive Hurricanes starting in 3/42, and that their forces grow stronger with time, making an early landing highly advisable.
What forces do you plan? What is your target date for landing, and what bases will you capture along the way?
What are your plans in the Southern DEI, so that the Australian colonialists cannot interfere with us taking what is rightfully ours?
RE: Here we go again! tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J) - No tc464
Best way to deal with Ichang is to take Changsha, historically the Chinese used all the IChang forces to help Changsha and hence the Japanes attacked with 100K and the Chinese had 300K . If you move on Changsha now you should have 100K vs 100K.
The best part is Changsha is usefull to you in terms of garrison to gain and IChang isnt. Personally i feel its best now for China to just keep the railway open and defend resource centres the more other places they take the better to free up garrisons. With most house rules preventing strategic bombing Ichang looses a lot of its value.
The best part is Changsha is usefull to you in terms of garrison to gain and IChang isnt. Personally i feel its best now for China to just keep the railway open and defend resource centres the more other places they take the better to free up garrisons. With most house rules preventing strategic bombing Ichang looses a lot of its value.
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I'll be following. Be interesting to see how this one plays out.
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Edit: I recommend sending a lot more Adens to Pt. Arthur. Resources are accumulating there fast. I'm up to about 20 right now.
Told you Pt. Arthur would have a ton of resources quickly [:D] It's a real nice option if the Shikuka route gets heavy sub attention.
Mike, an unrelated suggestion, I'd also think about upgrading your CVL carrier planes quickly to Zero's and replace the Jean's, and the Claudes in Kwajalein. I think Kwajalein requires the 11th Command HQ there though, the bases there are not big enough to upgrade on their own, or ship them quickly using the Taiyo escort carrier to Takao. They can be a nasty surprise early and really helps the defensive capability of little KB. Don't neglect to protect your forward bases early from raids either, especially if no surface ships are at hand and your opponent is aggressive (I'm learning this the hard way in another game). In particular Babeldoab, Truk, and Kwajalein. Also, set all your air squardons on your CV's to "resize to fit ship" they are not all at full complement at start I believe. I had some resize from 18 to 21 for Zeros I think, and 18 to 27 for Bombers. Nothing like more offensive capability [;)] Just some things I've learned.
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Philippines
There was very little Allied air power today. I sweep over all the occupied Allied airfields and ran into only 2 P-49Es, shooting down one.
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