Dynamic Campaigns?

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 3:08 am

Hey Junior, and you say *I* am rude?!

LonChaneyJr · Post by **LonChaneyJr** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 3:33 am

I never said you were rude just childish, unoriginal and amusing in a sad sort of way.

LarkinVB · Post by **LarkinVB** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 3:35 am

Originally posted by Lon Chaney Jr.:
Thank you Larkin thats a more than acceptable answer I understand this project is still in its early stages. Although I have to say I was starting to impression the question was being evaded and IMHO thats not good marketing.

Anyway I hope you will choose to keep us informed on the details as they are fleshed out.

We can't evade what hasn't been settled

LonChaneyJr · Post by **LonChaneyJr** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 3:49 am

Yes, but Mr. Peterson never came out and said what you did Larkin. If he would have that would have been the end of this discussion then and there.

PrinceCorrin · Post by **PrinceCorrin** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 5:43 am

I understood Eric perfectly.
What had you confused?

Bardinae · Post by **Bardinae** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 3:13 pm

Hi Larkin!

Naragon here - I blew my registration and sent my password to a nonexistent e-mail address

No one to blame but myself, so I registered as Bardinae.

Thanks for commenting on the scenario editor - please include it if at all possible.

I was eventually hoping to host a mecha RPG with my friends using ToS as the combat module. In a perfect world, I'd use the HQ's Pilot stats as characters my friends could build and role-play, then and challenges/missions could be built and played out using the scenario editor.

LonChaneyJr · Post by **LonChaneyJr** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 9:22 pm

Well PC what I don't understand is why it was difficult to get any kind of answer on what I thought was simple and direct question "What type of campaign linear, branching, dynamic".

This isn't freeware anymore so we have all now been placed in the role of consumers. And as a consumer I want all the information I can get before I make a decision on if I'm going to purchase this product or not.

LarkinVB · Post by **LarkinVB** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 9:30 pm

Originally posted by Lon Chaney Jr.:
This isn't freeware anymore so we have all now been placed in the role of consumers. And as a consumer I want all the information I can get before I make a decision on if I'm going to purchase this product or not.

Damned, I knew something would change to the worse if I'm leaving freeware. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

Lyhrrus · Post by **Lyhrrus** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 10:01 pm

Man oh man Larkin, it looks like you need one of those "We reserve the right to refuse service" signs. <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

LarkinVB · Post by **LarkinVB** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 11:08 pm

I thought v1.4 was argument enough to buy the game. Seems that some people need better arguments to waste their money on us. They will get them ( I hope so <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> )

rosary · Post by **rosary** » Sun Oct 14, 2001 11:50 pm

Originally posted by Lon Chaney Jr.:
Have you considering going into politics? You're putting up responses but they seem to aimed at avoiding an answer to the question while giving an illusion of a response. I get enough of this from my elected officials thank you very much.

So once again focusing on the actual campaign itself and ignoring the character building aspects. Would the campaign be considered as linear, branching or dynamic? Will mission A have to be completed before mission B?

If mission A is failed do you have to keep doing it until you succeed? Or would you still go onto mission B just minus the resources lost in mission A? Or would failing mission A then cause you to have to start a new "defeat" plot line but with a chance to reverse it and return to the main plot?

I see your point.

Campaigns will be open.

Maps will be linear and branching.
Beat map A and get to map B. Or Beat Map C a certain way and get to map D1 or map D2. this will determine rewards. if you like money you'll play D1 if you want experience you'll play D2 though it is harder.

LonChaneyJr · Post by **LonChaneyJr** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 1:49 am

Thank you Mr. Peterson <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> Sorry to be so rude.

I like the branching idea as linear tends to limit the replay value and dynamic tends to be very complex(and complexity breeds buggies).

rosary · Post by **rosary** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 2:13 am

Due to certain changes to the campaign editor the campaigns will be linear not Open. One map leads to the next. You must beat map A to play map B.

The maps are supporting lots of variables so they should be interesting. Now I can fulfill my lifelong dream of airdropping 2 Daemon Lords on players. I might not but I could if I wanted.

PrinceCorrin · Post by **PrinceCorrin** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 6:08 am

Originally posted by Eric Petersen:
Now I can fulfill my lifelong dream of airdropping 2 Daemon Lords on players.

You are evil.

rosary · Post by **rosary** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 8:02 am

STop! you'll make me choke to death on my own laughter.

tarendelcymir · Post by **tarendelcymir** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 6:09 pm

Evil doesn't even begin to cover the thought of two Daemon Lords dropping on some poor player's head...

rosary · Post by **rosary** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 12:02 am

Don't worry. I'll ensure you have a fully equipped Unicorn.

tarendelcymir · Post by **tarendelcymir** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 12:05 am

Now I'm the one dying of laughter.

LonChaneyJr · Post by **LonChaneyJr** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 10:34 pm

Hey Larkin ever heard the saying "Why buy the cow when the milk is free?"

So yes you are going to have to convince me and probably quite a few others who either don't post or even the read boards that a commercial version of TOS has enough to offer to warrant purchasing when 1.4 is publically available.

I thought "We have the right to refuse service" was pretty funny but we have another saying in the states "Money talks and bullsh*t walks". It doesn't matter what any of you think of my questions on this board as long my credit card number clears at the Matrix store and you all know it.

And here is another quote for you from the wise man Killian "Marketing is cancer. Get it and die".

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PrinceCorrin · Post by **PrinceCorrin** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 10:53 pm

Hey! Larkin's not going to live and die by your wallet. I very much doubt if he is at all worried about whether ToS:WS makes money. He's just happy to have the resources that Matrix offers. I doubt very much if he is too impressed with your rudeness.
There's another saying by a wise man: "The customer may always be right, but that doesn't mean they know what the hell they're talking about"

Now, I realise that's a little rude, and I probably shouldn't be rude, but you rather hurt my feelings. I love ToS. If Larkin says WS is better, you better be damn sure it's worth whatever is charged.
I would gladly have paid $50 for the original ToS. I won't hesitate to do so for the next incarnation.