Supply Consumption...be warned

This new stand alone release based on the legendary War in the Pacific from 2 by 3 Games adds significant improvements and changes to enhance game play, improve realism, and increase historical accuracy. With dozens of new features, new art, and engine improvements, War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition brings you the most realistic and immersive WWII Pacific Theater wargame ever!

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After the patch, I had the same thing occur. some bunching up of supplies here and there. But all I have had to do is some tweaking of the supply buttons at certain bases and within a handful of turns I have supply going to where I want it to. I did have to pay attention to all bases between a major hub ( eg bankcock ) and an endpoint ( say Johore ) If I am trying to get maximum supplies to Johore, then you need to be careful that you are not bunching up supplies in intervening bases. It may take a bit of fine tuning, but I seem to be able to direct suppies in that manner. And in the HI then I had to use the button in every city that I wanted to keep at 10,000 or 20,000 supply , but again after just a few turns it all seems to be working.
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I'm still new at the game, so would thank someone profusely [&o]if they could map out an example of a supply line to illustrate this point.

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ORIGINAL: wdolson

There was a supply/fuel/oil/resources movement issue that was just discovered.  It has been fixed and will be released with the next patch/hotfix. 

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Is this the same bug that prevents movement of resources on the rail net in the U.S.?

I pointed this bug out before the release of Patch 2 and was told that the fix for it was going to be included in patch 2.
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Well I've been moving loads of supply & fuel into Perth (from DEI and also Cape Town) and... a lot just seem to sit there whilst others just vanishes.  Can't believe spoilage is this bad unless the locals are nicking it all from under my nose and selling it on the Black market...
I had thought the internal rail & road network would move it for me, preferably before it got stolen...
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Well after playing about 2 weeks of turns in a game against the AI, I've dropped around 800k of supply (3.7 million down to 2.9 million) in that 14 turn period of time. Before in the same amount of time I might have used 10%-20% that much. It's going somewhere and at this rate the Home islands will be starving in another game month or so.
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Hey Shark - check your bases (Japanese flag button on the top button bar) tab and then sort by supply.  My guess is you'll see that one or two sites in Japan with 999K supplies.  It's going to those places and then disappearing.  If you then use the buttons to push supply away then all you lose is the 'wastage' in supply movement as you fight your quartermaster corps incessant desire to fill up the Imperial Palace with extra rations every few days.  Sort of a game breaker though until fixed.
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Hey Shark - check your bases (Japanese flag button on the top button bar) tab and then sort by supply.  My guess is you'll see that one or two sites in Japan with 999K supplies.  It's going to those places and then disappearing.  If you then use the buttons to push supply away then all you lose is the 'wastage' in supply movement as you fight your quartermaster corps incessant desire to fill up the Imperial Palace with extra rations every few days.  Sort of a game breaker though until fixed.

Hardly a game breaker imo. Just use the buttons as you mentioned.
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Hey Shark - check your bases (Japanese flag button on the top button bar) tab and then sort by supply.  My guess is you'll see that one or two sites in Japan with 999K supplies.  It's going to those places and then disappearing.  If you then use the buttons to push supply away then all you lose is the 'wastage' in supply movement as you fight your quartermaster corps incessant desire to fill up the Imperial Palace with extra rations every few days.  Sort of a game breaker though until fixed.

Nope, I didn't patch until well after it was released and had already seen the supply problem threads, the very turn I applied the patch I adjusted all the bases to get increased supply, overall, each has around 80-120k, with none maxed out.
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Will fixing of the Japanese 20 and 28 division strength when combine be in this hotfix also?
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Im 4-5 turns post patch and supply is being affected across the map. In Australia all the supply was sucked out of Perth and now Sydney is over 990,000. Im using every AK available at Sydney load supply and prevent spoilage.

In Burma my supply at Myitkina had been consistently over 70,000 pre-patch and then immediately dived to 50,000.

In China, supply had been around 35,000 at Chungking all game. Most other main Chinese cities had been at 2000-5000 supply. Post patch Chungking is below 20,000 supply and most Chinese cities have less than 100 supply....ie no supply.
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Yep same here, in all 3 of My PBEM games (post patch 2) the supply is literally drying up in the Chinese Cities!
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Check the LCUs. Changes were made that units will pull in more supplies, so that would of course lead to less being stockpiled in the bases.
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Supplies do go to the LCUs.  That is where post patch a number of supplies went to - so if you noticed pre patch 2 that you had major supply stocks in cities and post patch 2 they were lower, they really got distributed to your units.  This part of the supply distribution was never working well prior to patch 2.  Now most of my units appear to draw supply.  Good.

At the same time, the supply movement algorithms appear to have been changed in such a way that as Bill (Spruance) and others are pointing out, supply is being wasted from excessive movement or some overflow of 999,999 in certain locations.  Same thing on the overflow for resource and oil.  Supply can roughly be worked around by using the request supply buttons at various bases, but, it still seems to suck supply from any base without the arrows set manually and having any excess and the same problem ultimately arises again.  Lots of wastage.  Resources and oil - that's another story - nothing can be done about that other than lots of wasted shipping trying to fight the inevitable quartermaster corps movements.
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Nope not that, from what I can gleam from WitpTracker the Supplies are being produced. But are for some reason being sucked out of the Cities, and disappearing somewhere in the complications network. Now I am not a complainer, and don't rundown this game down normally. But this is a show stopper, and I have, or are in the process of suspending all My games. The calculations that I have done show that in all my PBEM game; the supply in the Chinese Cities will disappear completely in between 3-6 turns!
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