MWiF Global War Hot-Seat (AAR)
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RE: MWiF Global War Hot-Seat (AAR)
I've had another setback -- the compuer I bought yetsterday was unacceptable, so I had to trade it in for another one today. That means I have to re-download a ton of files again. This is becoming very exhausting -- not to mention expensive. I did promise to give you a rundown on what units would be available, but at best that will be several hours from now, as I have to reset all parameters . . . plus, I have to re-download:
All MWiF related files that weren't lost
Filezilla
Hypersnap
Paint.NET
World of Tanks (for stress relief)
MTL Spreadsheets
Unit Master Files
The entire directory of screenshots (250+) for the Players Manual
and I'm going to have to go through several days worth of bug reports to try to catch up and reconstruct much of the two new PDF documents I was in the middle of creating.
And I also have to get used to this new computer and Win 7 (I have been using XP for close to a decade).
Here are my new computer specs:
Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601)
Intel(R) Core (TM) : 7-2630QM CPU @ 2GHz (8 CPUs)~2.0GHz
8192 MB RAM
DirextX 11
750 GB Hard Drive
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M 4063MB
Display 1920 x 1080 (32-bit) (60Hz)
Not to mention that because this has a separate numeric pad, all of the keys are in different places than I have beome accustomed.
Long story short, one of my top priorities is to get MWiF downloaded so I can star this thread up for real, but it's going to take time.
All MWiF related files that weren't lost
Filezilla
Hypersnap
Paint.NET
World of Tanks (for stress relief)
MTL Spreadsheets
Unit Master Files
The entire directory of screenshots (250+) for the Players Manual
and I'm going to have to go through several days worth of bug reports to try to catch up and reconstruct much of the two new PDF documents I was in the middle of creating.
And I also have to get used to this new computer and Win 7 (I have been using XP for close to a decade).
Here are my new computer specs:
Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601)
Intel(R) Core (TM) : 7-2630QM CPU @ 2GHz (8 CPUs)~2.0GHz
8192 MB RAM
DirextX 11
750 GB Hard Drive
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M 4063MB
Display 1920 x 1080 (32-bit) (60Hz)
Not to mention that because this has a separate numeric pad, all of the keys are in different places than I have beome accustomed.
Long story short, one of my top priorities is to get MWiF downloaded so I can star this thread up for real, but it's going to take time.
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Aaron,
Sorry to hear the gods of hardware have been wearing so hard on you.[:(]
On the plus side, your new system looks capable of keeping you warm on those cold Maine winter evenings.
Sorry to hear the gods of hardware have been wearing so hard on you.[:(]
On the plus side, your new system looks capable of keeping you warm on those cold Maine winter evenings.
Steve
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RE: MWiF Global War Hot-Seat (AAR)
Yeah, but my new system, being designed for ultra-intensive gaming, is keeping itself very cool indeed. It is a killer system, though. If I could just figure out everything I need to try to recover. [:(]ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
Aaron,
Sorry to hear the gods of hardware have been wearing so hard on you.[:(]
On the plus side, your new system looks capable of keeping you warm on those cold Maine winter evenings.
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RE: MWiF Global War Hot-Seat (AAR)
Now, there is also something else to take into account. Don't forget you can set up naval units at sea at start.
Only as Japan. Nobody else is at war yet.
I can't remember who mentioned it, but I'm aware that my plans are far-fetched. The thing is, I spent 2 1/2 months working on that game to get to the point where I was, working on average 1-2 hours a day. It was creating some interesting questions that I never had a chance to answer:
Could Germany crack Gibraltar and still get back in time for a late '41 Barb?
Could Germany "sneak" the troops over into the USSR by the southern route?
Could Japan actually break China and still be ready to fight the USA?
With such an early War Appropriations Bill, how dangerous would the USA actually end up being?
And, the key, how easily could the Med be closed?
Far-fetched, perhaps, but it did work once, and this is beta-testing, after all. That means attempting the ridiculous. In one game, I had Italy in control of the Carribean and prepared to invade the USA. This is what we do. [:)] I'm just frustrated because all the notes I had explaining how to do all of this are gone, and I have to think them all up again.
-Aaron
So, I'm going to start by giving you a view of the MWiF world of S/O '39:

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RE: MWiF Global War Hot-Seat (AAR)
I like AARs. [:)]
Michel Desjardins,
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Well, I'm working on setting it up right now, and I'm taking screenshots of the scrap lists -- so you can see what I chose to do. Having discovered how to use 2 screens, I may manage to take some more pics of the actual setups (which you can scrutinize -- and through the magic of some special tools I have, I can adjust). My setups are bound to be a little haphazard, since I'm still struggling emotionally with the loss of so much data, but I'll do my best to make this AAR as fun for you as it is for me.
-Aaron
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RE: MWiF Global War Hot-Seat (AAR)
Something I forgot to mention, is that I'll be using as many of Peter's AIO setups as possible for minors getting attacked, based on how I see the situation (just so you don't think I'm stacking the cards).
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While I didn't show you my USA, USSR, or Italian setups (because they span a lot more of the globe), this here is my Chinese setup. Patrice would hate it because it is so far forward, but I couldn't locate one from Peter, and so I used a combination of Steve's original and my own tastes (which are not always wise):
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Edit: Oh, forgot -- there as an Oil behind the FTR (yeah, I know), and an AT behind the 4-2 MIL.

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Edit: Oh, forgot -- there as an Oil behind the FTR (yeah, I know), and an AT behind the 4-2 MIL.

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RE: MWiF Global War Hot-Seat (AAR)
I suppose this should be called either a DAR or a PAR . . . (during action report . . . pre-action report).ORIGINAL: Centuur
Who doesn't... [:D]ORIGINAL: micheljq
I like AARs. [:)]
Personally, I prefer PAR (for the course) [:D]
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Just want to add that I'm working on setting up the CW convoy routes at the moment, which is a pain in the neck (ask any beta-tester), and it's slow going . . . . on top of all of my other issues, I seem to have caught pneumonia for the second time in my life, and it's very hard to remain awake long enough to maintain focus. I'll do the best that I can.
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Less beta testing, more sleeping off pneumonia. [:-]
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I appreciate the sentiment, and I've been sleeping a lot, but I need to keep active or I'll go nuts. So, this is just going to slow things down. On the plus side, I'm on to French setup now. [:)]ORIGINAL: composer99
Less beta testing, more sleeping off pneumonia. [:-]
Had chest xrays this morning and an appt with my doc this afternoon, so I'll know more later. I was planning to show a picture of the scrapped units, but I forgot to add the CW units, so I have to see if I can get that back to add to the picture. If I can, expect it up soon.
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RE: MWiF Global War Hot-Seat (AAR)
You could just show a single screenshot of all the scrapped units after Germany sets up.ORIGINAL: Red Prince
I appreciate the sentiment, and I've been sleeping a lot, but I need to keep active or I'll go nuts. So, this is just going to slow things down. On the plus side, I'm on to French setup now. [:)]ORIGINAL: composer99
Less beta testing, more sleeping off pneumonia. [:-]
Had chest xrays this morning and an appt with my doc this afternoon, so I'll know more later. I was planning to show a picture of the scrapped units, but I forgot to add the CW units, so I have to see if I can get that back to add to the picture. If I can, expect it up soon.
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RE: MWiF Global War Hot-Seat (AAR)
I don't like the Chinese setup. Personally I would defend by making a choice. China can't defend everything with the new map, so I would only defend the Chinese heartland and forget about a forward defence in Fukien. I wouldn't defend Chengchow either. Also, I would prefer using a couple of 2 unit stacks with a gap, than using one unit a hex, since it is far easier or the Japanese (if he commits himself to eliminating China) to kill one unit a hex than two (even in Mountains...) at high odds without getting disorganised.ORIGINAL: Red Prince
While I didn't show you my USA, USSR, or Italian setups (because they span a lot more of the globe), this here is my Chinese setup. Patrice would hate it because it is so far forward, but I couldn't locate one from Peter, and so I used a combination of Steve's original and my own tastes (which are not always wise):
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Edit: Oh, forgot -- there as an Oil behind the FTR (yeah, I know), and an AT behind the 4-2 MIL.
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Also I don't like the large gap in the frontline near Canton. As a Japanese, I would set up two fastmovers there and try to make a run for the city of Kweilin.
China is going to lose units anyway, so it better make sure that while he's losing units, the attacker gets at least disorganised. Time is on the Chinese side, so every Japanese unit not capable of moving is important IMHO...
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Yes. I am holding off on editing the list of optional rules, but will do so before the game is released.ORIGINAL: brian brian
If the Intelligence rules won't be part of MWiF At-Start, for the perfectly good reason that it would be an extra programming mega-challenge to include an ability to spend Intell points in just about every single phase of the game, perhaps the word Intelligence could be removed from the list of options on-screen...
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RE: MWiF Global War Hot-Seat (AAR)
Okay, here are the scrapped unit lists I decided on:


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RE: MWiF Global War Hot-Seat (AAR)
wasn't there a set of CW convoy set-ups made for the AI one could use as a time-saver?
I agree, the Chinese need to double-stack for safety. Chengchow is worth defending though, with two units it might take the Japanese several impulses to take, perhaps only in 1940 if they focus on the North Monsoon zone for the first winter of the game. All that time is additional defense for Si-An. Also China needs to be very careful with the MIL units that can't be replaced as their home city is controlled by Japan; using them on low-threat hexes and as emergency reserves. I would save their only fighter for defense against strategic bombing in Chungking.
I agree, the Chinese need to double-stack for safety. Chengchow is worth defending though, with two units it might take the Japanese several impulses to take, perhaps only in 1940 if they focus on the North Monsoon zone for the first winter of the game. All that time is additional defense for Si-An. Also China needs to be very careful with the MIL units that can't be replaced as their home city is controlled by Japan; using them on low-threat hexes and as emergency reserves. I would save their only fighter for defense against strategic bombing in Chungking.
RE: MWiF Global War Hot-Seat (AAR)
With USSR i never scrap any land unit until late game, even the crappy 2-1 garrison or motorized 4-5 is of use in this gigantic country. For what my opinion is worth.
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RE: MWiF Global War Hot-Seat (AAR)
Frankly, I don't like the Chinese setup either, but the ones I make always get destroyed pretty quickly, so I thought I'd try something similary to Steve's original plan to see what happens.ORIGINAL: Centuur
I don't like the Chinese setup. Personally I would defend by making a choice. China can't defend everything with the new map, so I would only defend the Chinese heartland and forget about a forward defence in Fukien. I wouldn't defend Chengchow either. Also, I would prefer using a couple of 2 unit stacks with a gap, than using one unit a hex, since it is far easier or the Japanese (if he commits himself to eliminating China) to kill one unit a hex than two (even in Mountains...) at high odds without getting disorganised.ORIGINAL: Red Prince
While I didn't show you my USA, USSR, or Italian setups (because they span a lot more of the globe), this here is my Chinese setup. Patrice would hate it because it is so far forward, but I couldn't locate one from Peter, and so I used a combination of Steve's original and my own tastes (which are not always wise):
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Edit: Oh, forgot -- there as an Oil behind the FTR (yeah, I know), and an AT behind the 4-2 MIL.
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Also I don't like the large gap in the frontline near Canton. As a Japanese, I would set up two fastmovers there and try to make a run for the city of Kweilin.
China is going to lose units anyway, so it better make sure that while he's losing units, the attacker gets at least disorganised. Time is on the Chinese side, so every Japanese unit not capable of moving is important IMHO...
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