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Gary Grigsby’s War in the East: The German-Soviet War 1941-1945 is a turn-based World War II strategy game stretching across the entire Eastern Front. Gamers can engage in an epic campaign, including division-sized battles with realistic and historical terrain, weather, orders of battle, logistics and combat results.

The critically and fan-acclaimed Eastern Front mega-game Gary Grigsby’s War in the East just got bigger and better with Gary Grigsby’s War in the East: Don to the Danube! This expansion to the award-winning War in the East comes with a wide array of later war scenarios ranging from short but intense 6 turn bouts like the Battle for Kharkov (1942) to immense 37-turn engagements taking place across multiple nations like Drama on the Danube (Summer 1944 – Spring 1945).

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ORIGINAL: Marquo

I am finding that keeping Soviet units at a higher TOE and higher moral with less unreadiness is acheivable by merging the flood of reinforcement brigades directly into unready and dangerously depleted units during the blizzard offensive. Instead of divisions falling to 5 - 6,000 men, they can be sustained at 8 - 10,000 men and they are much more resilient. It is a sure way of funneling reinforcements directly to where they are needed rather than depending on refit mode. Hopefully this will buffer the March hit.


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I think this is a great use of brigades, especially when they have trained up all of their elements.
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ORIGINAL: Pelton

Forts have little effect if the attacker has engineers.

Rivers should be impassable during spring unless crossing at a bridge. The flooding would make even minor rivers uncrossable other then at bridges. Bridges could mean railroads or major citys, but again if the bridge is defended it would be next to impossible to cross.

The effects of spring flooding seem to be left out of the game totally. This would make the snow offensives by the German army much more defendable by the russian army.
German players would have to make sure that units would not be cut off from supplies during flood turns.

Just a thought to make things more interesting.

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Ah, yes. Bridges... those operationally insignificant little lumps of steel and concrete ;)
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What do Soviet players do to stop this?

IMHO the game is unplayable beyond Feb '42 (if you want some kind of historical feasibility to be involved) until this issue is fixed. But then I am prone to exaggeration...
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Turn 38

The Blizzard is over and TDV pocketed and destroyed 55 total axis divisions.
As can be seen TDV builds his army for the blizzard. I used the same tactics I used vs M60 and lost not a sinlge division, but vs TDV I lost 55.
Who says that there is no teeth to the blizzard? Me thinks most poeple have no idea what they are doing.There are many tools in the russian tool kits that aren't being used.
I have played through 9 blizzards now and TDV is the only one that truly knows what they are doing.
TDV only had 4,550,000 men at start of blizzard, M60 had 5,400,000 men. Some I have played had 6 million all atleast 5 millions. So with the smallest Red army under 1.05 rules TDV has done the best.
Yes sure the russians can't do anything during 1.05 blizzards. TDV understands a few basic short comings of the game replasement phase and how to use his units he has at his finger tips.
TDV is hands down the best Russian I have played out of the 18 I have faced.

TDV
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other 15 have allot to learn.
Not sure about this 8421 guy I am playing, Hes using his units allot like TDV. Not as good, but still alittle on the crazy russian side. Its 100% all about morale and IF the russian can pound down german morale during blizzard its game set match unless russian really screws up in 1942.

In closing all I can say is get some skills boys. If one person can do it then you all can. I also better sharpen up my skills to counter this, atleast I have seen it. Not that I want to remember it, heheh Nightmare the horror of it all.

Its 1941/1942 and not 1943 hehehe

TDV is the only person I have played 2 times, because he like me thinks out side the box. Its never a boring game.

Hes not a cookie cutter Russian player.

The data is the data.

Its still possible to have a great blizzard. Flaviusx is on the right track, but Flaviusx has to ask himself a few questions about TDV army size.

Morale is King of the battle field, nothing esle seems to have a real impact on the game.

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Yes, Pelton, your runaway defense can be beaten. It's not the only defense available to the Germans.

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Yes, Pelton, your runaway defense can be beaten. It's not the only defense available to the Germans.


yes that true, but this is 2nd game vs TDV and first one I did not use this tactic.

So TDV's playing the game works vs both a forward flexable defence and a retreating defence during blizzard.

In the North I had most tanks in citys with a double line of infantry in woods and swamps, in south a general retreat.

Both tactics failed, so TDV handle on blizzard tactics work vs any defence. It has both power and speed. He like me is flexable and not a cookie cutter player, so changing tactics on the fly works vs anything.

So unless you have some german tactic that has never been tried what TDV does works vs anything tried to dat in an AAR.

He is just playing the rule set as designed to the max in his favor, which is a smart thing.

As you said there will be no changes to the replasement rule set or cav's units so I expect russian players to slowly figure out how to use this design to their advantage in the coming months.

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55 Axis divisions destroyed in the blizzard?  That's an extreme brutalization.
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"I used the same tactics I used vs M60 and lost not a sinlge division, but vs TDV I lost 55. Who says that there is no teeth to the blizzard? Me thinks most poeple have no idea what they are doing."

There is an alternate explanation....



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But are you not talking about 'beating the game system' rather than 'gaming the war in Russia'?

I understand that beating the system takes brains and that there are many smarter players out there than I. However, were Hitler and Stalin that smart? The game should demand the same types of decisions as those demanded of the historical commanders, not reward a small minority of very clever whiz kids with lots of time on their hands. (No offence to the champion players is meant here. I seriously admire their brain power).
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