Las Vegas as it grows.

[Orm]

Las Vegas really wants a professional team. its just convincing the Professional leagues it will work in Las Vegas.

Once you have shown that it works I suspect you will get teams in the other professional leagues fast.

You are in a unique position to draw huge amounts of away team fans to Las Vegas.

[Zap]

Best hopes now are Hockey, And maybe Soccer.

[warspite1]

I must admit I do not really understand the Franchise system. I mean you could support a team all your life and then one day it closes down and b***** off to Cleveland or wherever. Thanks....

Far better to have teams that are long established, steeped in their own history and from which you, as a supporter, can never renounce your allegiance. That way, you can end up like me. Because you love your dad you support the team that he did. A certain, once big important team that used to have chances of winning the sport's biggest prizes, but since I've been supporting them they have gone down and down and have been not only left behind by their contemporaries, but overtaken by richly backed lesser clubs. And so I sit in a spiral of bitter despair and despondency, wishing my dad had made a better choice of football club. Every Saturday or Sunday I have my weekend wrecked by my team's inability to kick a football around properly and score more goals than their opposition. I have become so bitter that I have told my little warspites that they must, in memory of and out of respect for, their dad and their grandad, also support this dross team - and so saddle them with the same bunch of losers as their dad....

This is a much better way yes?

[Orm]

wishing my dad had made a better choice of football club

No, you don't. You are happy that you support the greatest team ever. You know, in your heart, that the team is just recuperating and will be winning titles shortly. Maybe next year...

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Orm

wishing my dad had made a better choice of football club

No, you don't. You are happy that you support the greatest team ever. You know, in your heart, that the team is just recuperating and will be winning titles shortly. Maybe next year...

warspite1

Oh yes - there's always next year [:)]

[Jeffrey H.]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

I must admit I do not really understand the Franchise system.

I think you do get it. It's a rather empty thing IMHO. What I do not really understand is why do people pay so much attention to it all ?

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Jeffrey H.

ORIGINAL: warspite1

I must admit I do not really understand the Franchise system.

I think you do get it. It's a rather empty thing IMHO. What I do not really understand is why do people pay so much attention to it all ?

warspite1

Yes, I understand what a franchise is, I just do not understand how or why it works in sport.

[Zap]

Curtis Lemay mentioned Bugys Siegel. I was in my Lawyers office this afternoon. A women was filling out paper work I heard her named called out. iIt was Siegel. Jokingly, I asked her if she was related. She said, yes, she was a distant cousin. She joked i'm related but where is my part of the fortune. Small world.

[Missouri_Rebel]

TBH, I don't see myself ever going to Vegas. Not much of a gambler and when we vacation it is places like the hills of North Carolina, the swamps of Louisiana, the rivers of Missouri/Arkansas and any place where people are not. I lived in St.Louis for a time and the city is just not for this boy. I did however go to some casino in East St. Louis and won over $800 playing blackjack for the first and only time. I never went back. As a teenager I envisioned myself taking a trip to New York. Can't say Id ever do it now although I would like to visit New England some day just for the history. I would however like to go back to Canada for another trip. That was beautiful.

Different strokes for different folks.

[Zap]

That's a valid point.

Not sure you would like our desert landscape nature. Las Vegas is surrounded by desert.

Some things you can do:

Only a 30-minute drive west of the Strip lies Red Rock Canyon, a Technicolor natural conservation area composed of sandstone bluffs, seasonal waterfall oases, and desert hiking trails that wind past prime wildlife watching areas. To see everything up close, climb on a bicycle to tour the park's memorable 13-mile scenic drive.

A multicoloured chasm measuring a mile deep, the Grand Canyon is probably the USA's signature natural attraction. What better way to appreciate its scope than from the air, more specifically from a helicopter's window seat? A helicopter is also the fastest way to get to the canyon from Las Vegas

Carving its way through the Grand Canyon, the Colorado River spills over the Hoover Dam, just a 40-minute drive from the Strip. Touring the dam, which lets you go deep underground to see the massive electricity generators up close, is a popular day trip for Vegas visitors. But most tourists never see the dam from the bottom up. kayak tours that launch below the gigantic dam,

For classic south-western desert scenery just like in Hollywood westerns, drive an hour north-east of the Strip to Valley of Fire state park. Bizarre rock formations with memorable names such as White Domes, Arch Rock, and the Mouse's Tank are scattered across the desert landscape. If you look closely, some rocks are inscribed with ancient Native American petroglyphs.

Flying into Las Vegas, you'll glimpse miles of huge sand dunes encircling the city. To really get out there and experience the desert, the wind whipping your hair around as you bounce over terrain that no normal car could handle, you've got to rent a dune buggy. Based near the Las Vegas Motor Speedway, Sun Buggy lets you bring along a group of friends for the Mini Baja Chase, a 30-minute race during which you'll feel like you're flying on downhill descents and roaring up over sandy hills.

[Missouri_Rebel]

Now those things sound more to my liking. I'd definitely like to see the desert sky at night. Visited the dam on the way back home from N.C. 2 years ago and enjoyed those vistas. Didnt do any tour and it pales in comparison to Hoover no doubt. I think it was Fontain? Took the winding southern route back around the Smokys.

I hope you don't mind if I hijack your thread to post a video I made of my neck of the woods. Some of the pics are borrowed from the net. A couple shots are paintings. Check out those wild horses. Once hunted now protected.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxX79bt ... e=youtu.be

[warspite1]

Nice!!! As I said in the Great Lakes thread - isn't the world a beautiful place? I love the golden, yellow, orange, brown colours of the trees - autumn (sorry fall) presumably?

[Missouri_Rebel]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Nice!!! As I said in the Great Lakes thread - isn't the world a beautiful place? I love the golden, yellow, orange, brown colours of the trees - autumn (sorry fall) presumably?

Yes it is. There are so many places that I'd like to see if only I had the time and money.

Yeah, most are from Summer and Autumn. I loathe Winter. As you can tell I like water.

Sorry Zap.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Missouri_Rebel

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Nice!!! As I said in the Great Lakes thread - isn't the world a beautiful place? I love the golden, yellow, orange, brown colours of the trees - autumn (sorry fall) presumably?

Yes it is. There are so many places that I'd like to see if only I had the time and money.

Yeah, most are from Summer and Autumn. I loathe Winter. As you can tell I like water.

Sorry Zap.

warspite1

Me too!!!

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: Missouri_Rebel

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Nice!!! As I said in the Great Lakes thread - isn't the world a beautiful place? I love the golden, yellow, orange, brown colours of the trees - autumn (sorry fall) presumably?

Yes it is. There are so many places that I'd like to see if only I had the time and money.

Yeah, most are from Summer and Autumn. I loathe Winter. As you can tell I like water.

Sorry Zap.

May I suggest that you consider a visit to Norway, during summer, when you have the time and money.

I just love how to mountains and sea work together and create a amazing landscape.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: Missouri_Rebel

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Nice!!! As I said in the Great Lakes thread - isn't the world a beautiful place? I love the golden, yellow, orange, brown colours of the trees - autumn (sorry fall) presumably?

Yes it is. There are so many places that I'd like to see if only I had the time and money.

Yeah, most are from Summer and Autumn. I loathe Winter. As you can tell I like water.

Sorry Zap.

May I suggest that you consider a visit to Norway, during summer, when you have the time and money.

I just love how to mountains and sea work together and create a amazing landscape.

warspite1

Slartibartfast was a true genius - just beautiful [&o]

[Missouri_Rebel]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: Missouri_Rebel

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Nice!!! As I said in the Great Lakes thread - isn't the world a beautiful place? I love the golden, yellow, orange, brown colours of the trees - autumn (sorry fall) presumably?

Yes it is. There are so many places that I'd like to see if only I had the time and money.

Yeah, most are from Summer and Autumn. I loathe Winter. As you can tell I like water.

Sorry Zap.

May I suggest that you consider a visit to Norway, during summer, when you have the time and money.

I just love how to mountains and sea work together and create a amazing landscape.

Actually, Norway is probably my top wishlist destination. I've long admired pictures of their fjords and mountains. Sweden too with all their islands. All of Scandinavia.

[Zap]

Water! And a view of Las Vegas and surrounding area. Las Vegas does not have lakes. So they have built several

[Orm]

Sweden too with all their islands.

Stockholm archipelago with more than 20,000 islands and islets. [:)]

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Orm

Sweden too with all their islands.

Stockholm archipelago with more than 20,000 islands and islets. [:)]

warspite1

Just stunning. I was trying to find a picture of the Swedish landscape from the air but nothing appeared. Do you have anything?

That image will stay with me a long time, it was just a mass of Green and Blue with pretty buildings on the Green - not a hideous skyscraper in sight.