Heavy Problems with Spies

[ElanaAhova_slith]

ORIGINAL: Hattori Hanzo

ORIGINAL: ElanaAhova_slith

This has happened to me several times. Hate it. What has worked for me is to play only species that have decent spys. Humans = spy +15% etc. While I'm not elated being restricted to a small subset of species - its better than fighting a spy war that I can't even see happening until bases blow up.

A work around would be to use the console to add a spy, and keep trying until you get a good one - and delete all the others you created using the console (game editor?).

what you exactly mean when you say: "use the console to add a spy".. ????? [&:]

Console = game editor. Sorry, Fallout and Elder Scroll games call it the console, my bad. In DW:U it's the " in game editor." It's one of the options in the drop down menu when you hit the escape key. Pause game first. Once in the editor, select add character (for your empire). Select spy, AND the location you want your spy at. Then click the edit character, and a dialog window listing all your characters appears. Select your new spy. How to do it is shown a few post before this one.

[Hattori Hanzo]

thanks for your reply [:)]
I know the Game Editor in DW:U, but I never used it to modify anything in my saved games.
I cannot play this way, it is like to cheat in my opinion.
I prefer to try to solve the issues with "legal" means.
in the above situation, paying the Pirates fee in the beginning of the game until you get stronger it's safe, more simple and 100% satisfaction guaranteed.. [:D]

[ElanaAhova_slith]

H Hanzo: Generally I agree with you. However, consider cases where the random generation algorithms produce an unworkable situation. I like challenges, but starting with a solar system almost devoid of resources, and being critically short of almost every resource is not my idea for a game. I usted to restart, and restart until i got a system with at least half the resources not orange-ed out in the expansion planner. Waste of time.

So, instead, I edit home system to have a reasonable start. I'm just helping the RND god do its thing. RNG = random number generator.

I feel the same if I start next to more than four pirate bases. Try paying off FOUR pirate gangs at start. Such fun!

AND,if I don't have one decent spy, why bother? Read the post that started this thread = hopelessly outmatched by enemy super spies right at the beginning. Again, not the game I want to play.

Now, if the spy vs. spy aspect of DW:U was a little more transparent - maybe. But its not. It's not balanced. So, as long as I moderately adjust my starting system - I don't see it as cheating - just helping a less than ideal generation process. Of course, each of us live in our own universe, and may play any way we wish. Carry on Commander.

[Retreat1970]

Elana, all of us have been where you are a long time ago. We know how to beat the game without the editor. Listen to us we'll help.

[ElanaAhova_slith]

Of course. Retreat, advise advise away!

[Retreat1970]

My advice then? play something else

[ElanaAhova_slith]

ORIGINAL: Retreat1970

My advice then? play something else

Always such kind people here. Well, almost always, 'hero.'

[Hattori Hanzo]

ORIGINAL: ElanaAhova_slith
Of course, each of us live in our own universe, and may play any way we wish. Carry on Commander.

absolutely yes Elana, this is out of the question !!!

I personally consider this kind of discussion a way to compare the different styles of play and - why not ? - an incentive for me to learn and/or experience something new.

I learned a lot from very expert older players like Retreat1970, and I will never cease to thank him for the massive amount of advice that has greatly shortened my learning process of Distant Worlds some years ago.. [:)] [&o]

having said that, no one claims to have the "Truth in his pocket" and, as you rightly say, each of us is obviously free to enjoy himself as he sees fit.

cheers Admiral

[Retreat1970]

"I used to know how to play Distant Worlds. I still do, but I used to too."

Anyone who knows the comedian that's based off of gets a dollar. Hint: He died in 2005.

[ElanaAhova_slith]

ORIGINAL: Hattori Hanzo

ORIGINAL: ElanaAhova_slith
Of course, each of us live in our own universe, and may play any way we wish. Carry on Commander.

absolutely yes Elana, this is out of the question !!!

I personally consider this kind of discussion a way to compare the different styles of play and - why not ? - an incentive for me to learn and/or experience something new.

I learned a lot from very expert older players like Retreat1970, and I will never cease to thank him for the massive amount of advice that has greatly shortened my learning process of Distant Worlds some years ago.. [:)] [&o]

having said that, no one claims to have the "Truth in his pocket" and, as you rightly say, each of us is obviously free to enjoy himself as he sees fit.

cheers Admiral

Hi H H. I played years ago. Started with Return of the S... All thru Universe. Beat the game several times. - without using the editor. Back then it was just "ElanaAhova." Couldn't get back on w that - so new handle in use. I learned alot from the old crew - who mostly don't seem to be around anymore. Alas. Enjoy exploring distant...

[USSAmerica]

ORIGINAL: Retreat1970

"I used to know how to play Distant Worlds. I still do, but I used to too."

Anyone who knows the comedian that's based off of gets a dollar. Hint: He died in 2005.

Mitch Hedberg! [:D]

[Shogouki]

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