My 1€ Ticket

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boudi
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RE: My 1€ Ticket

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ORIGINAL: calcwerc

Instead double chit aa-research. You will need AA lvl 2 by 1941-42 to counter Luftwaffe

Thank you force your advices.

I fixed my post, i forgot AA techs. From my point of vue AA techs appears not powerful enough. i had several level 2 AA units destroyed or hit at 50% at least by bombers... Even with level 2 in AA...
Marcinos1985
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RE: My 1€ Ticket

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@Earlydoors
yes russian winter event can occur in jan-mar 41

That's still present in the game? I thought it was mentioned in a seperate thread, but maybe devs didn't notice this or maybe they don't perceive this as a problem. Maybe it's not an easy thing to fix, '40 DOW on Russia is still possibility, so it shouldn't be turned off completely until 1941.
atm it doesn't seem to impact the germans much

It's because how this event is scripted - in fact it influences only north part of Russia. If I read a script right, Winter affects units in 25 hexes away form the city of Kirov. So everything south of Kursk is safe (it's a different weather zone too). Axis can transport out its aircraft too for 1-2 turns to avoid HP loss.
Some people know this and act accordingly, some don't and lose 1000 MPP.
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RE: My 1€ Ticket

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The defence line must be: corp/army in fortress, with highest possibly supply. Directly behind AA-units, also lvl 2. I also build AA in the fortresses. Thats a lot of AA. (Of course Axis can still break it with artillery :))

About Russian winter: Simple fix: make it happen 40 and 41.
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RE: My 1€ Ticket

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ORIGINAL: Marcinos1985

If I read a script right, Winter affects units in 25 hexes away form the city of Kirov. So everything south of Kursk is safe (it's a different weather zone too). Axis can transport out its aircraft too for 1-2 turns to avoid HP loss.
Some people know this and act accordingly, some don't and lose 1000 MPP.

Stalino, south of Kursk, is 25 hexes from Kirov, if my count is right. Not safe. ?
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RE: My 1€ Ticket

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ORIGINAL: calcwerc

The defence line must be: corp/army in fortress, with highest possibly supply. Directly behind AA-units, also lvl 2. I also build AA in the fortresses. Thats a lot of AA. (Of course Axis can still break it with artillery :))

About Russian winter: Simple fix: make it happen 40 and 41.

it could be one of my mistakes, not enough AA guns Units just behind front units. Like you i upgraded fortifications with AA. Not cities, because i think that if cities are upgraded and then taken by Germans, they keeps AA guns ?
Marcinos1985
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RE: My 1€ Ticket

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I think that is one the main questions. What was my strategy with USSR ?
At the 1st turn i started to research level 1 in infantry weapons. Then, turns after turns, I researched, by prioryties, AA techs, infantry warfare (the bonus is free on the map, you don't need to upgrade your units with MPPs). Same with armored warfare (in order to have the 2 hits per turn) and aerial warfare.
I researched too advanced tanks and advanced fighters. Next command & control, spying (1point) and industrial technologies (1points) this from 1939 to 1942.
of course when i had level 1 infantry weapons i started immediatly to search level 2.

Drop fighters (and aerial warfare), you will never achieve tech parity or number superiority to make this work. Don't go for S&I too, USSR doesn't have luxury to pick macro techs. You already have 250 MPP to spend elsewhere, not counting MPP's to repair fighters.

IW2 in the middle of 1942 is very late. I usually get it in Autumn 1941, Feb 1942 is my latest, with atrocious low rolls. Did you get IW1 at first turn?

As mentioned, 2nd engie is very helpful.

It's hard to tell what failed in Spring 1942, perhaps unit placement and tactical play were little bit off. Smolensk fell in 1942 or already in 1941? Where did GER finish 1941?

Regarding convoys, it's better to box him in beforehand in North Sea, than to deal with naval warfare in northern part of map. Still, it should be doable. You have plenty of destroyers and 5 carriers. With ASW upgrade, other ships can join the fight. You will take losses, but he will too. And as mentioned, his bombers can't be everywhere. How many did he have there (in NOR)? What is more, without HQ supply there is very bad (5 and less).

But probably the most important thing about Russia, which wasn't mentioned at all. USSR doesn't fight in isolation. There are other Allied powers, except China, which will die. Harass him elsewhere, especially with UK. Bomb his mines. Land, take empty cities, he can't cover everything. As USA joins, MPP and time works in your favour, just kick him in different places, force to react and divert MPP's. Survive 1942 as Ivan, then land in force in 1943.
And what about China ? When japanese bombers started to hit supply sources, Chungkind and Kunming, the south chinese army was no longer supplied, and became fragile as glass. AA guns (units and cities) and fighters were usless. Again strategy impossible to counter ?


China is doomed (Devs don't like Nationalists [;)]) and you can't save them, you may only delay. Sometimes you may delay long enough to deterr Japan from attacking India/Russia. That's already huge.
About Hawai, i have to say that if Japan need to garnison the island next, it is a very small price to cut the route of the Pacific to the whole US navy. In order to advance the US Navy needs harbor level 10. Hawai, west coast except, has the only ones. and 4... It's a desaster for USA.
Not a disaster, just a setback. You have an excuse to take your fleet to Atlantic. In this game USA is not strong enough to fight both JAP and GER at full potential. Focus on one of them, preferably GER.

It seems in this game you faced a well-executed plan and didn't know how to react. Next time you will know and it will be a completely different story for Axis.
Marcinos1985
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RE: My 1€ Ticket

Post by Marcinos1985 »

Stalino, south of Kursk, is 25 hexes from Kirov, if my count is right. Not safe. ?

Maybe I miscounted, I really don't remember a game where my opponent was around Rostov in 1941. [:)] Tough I will probably see one there quite soon.
calcwerc
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RE: My 1€ Ticket

Post by calcwerc »

boudi: yes they keep AA, but when you reconquer with Russia you are probably doing it without much air support, so it doesnt matter much really.

However, the problem is rather that you cant afford to do it everywhere. But in some key defensive positions you dont want to loose, it can really pay off.

I think the AA gun-units behind are the most important measure though. THey are cheap, and also defend reasonably against infantry and tanks when they break through.
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