Computer Third Reich by Avalon Hill

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RE: Computer Third Reich by Avalon Hill

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There's a Third Reich inspired scenario available to The Operational Art of War III. If you have that game, have a look HERE [:)]
The download link is not valid anymore, I am sure Steve (author of the 3R-Axis scenario) has a new site somewhere...

And there's my Advanced Third Reich mod available now as part of the free Strategic Command Community Pack here.

Both the 1939 Campaign and 1941 scenario are included, with challenging AI scripted for both sides. Unless/until another computer version of 3R/A3R is ever made, please consider this mod as an alternative. Enjoy!
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How do you guys have any time left to play anything else but Field of Glory 2? [:D]
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RE: Computer Third Reich by Avalon Hill

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ORIGINAL: pzgndr

ORIGINAL: Crossroads
There's a Third Reich inspired scenario available to The Operational Art of War III. If you have that game, have a look HERE [:)]
The download link is not valid anymore, I am sure Steve (author of the 3R-Axis scenario) has a new site somewhere...

And there's my Advanced Third Reich mod available now as part of the free Strategic Command Community Pack here.

Both the 1939 Campaign and 1941 scenario are included, with challenging AI scripted for both sides. Unless/until another computer version of 3R/A3R is ever made, please consider this mod as an alternative. Enjoy!

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RE: Computer Third Reich by Avalon Hill

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Will consider all propositions, thanks!

Though I have to admit on the strategic level I prefer the game system of the 3R boardgame to all computer games. I like the high level of abstraction of the John Prados original, because it keeps the game so playable and the focus on the important (Air/Armour/Economy).
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Though I have to admit on the strategic level I prefer the game system of the 3R boardgame to all computer games. I like the high level of abstraction of the John Prados original, because it keeps the game so playable and the focus on the important (Air/Armour/Economy).

I agree! I still occasionally play the old Third Reich PC game on DOSBox, warts and all; it's a great game system and deserves a remake.

I tried to be faithful to the original with my A3R mod. Strategic Command does not allow unit stacking or provide for 3-month seasonal turns. So I pretty much doubled the map scale and went with monthly (28-day) turns. If anything, this provides some additional operational level richness without compromising the grand strategy flavor. I've grown to like it. Other than that and some other differences with the Strategic Command game mechanics, the force pools and BRP economics are still faithful to the original. I did have to split the air fleets into separate fighters and tactical bombers, but again the numbers are still the same; e.g. Germany has 6 fighters and 6 tac bombers, and these can be devastating when concentrated but it's still a big map!

Anyways, I wish there would be a remake. Perchance to dream...
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I don't know how much good it would do but anyone interested in getting a working copy of Avalon Hill's Third Reich might want to vote for it on GOG's Community Wishlist.
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ORIGINAL: Greybriar

I don't know how much good it would do but anyone interested in getting a working copy of Avalon Hill's Third Reich might want to vote for it on GOG's Community Wishlist.

good idea, i will second that - i had heard about the old AH Third Reich game - saw it available for download on the old-games site (but its no longer there now) but it sounded like it was not a successful conversion of the board game

might i also suggest the games from Schwerpunkt games: Anglo-German War and Russo-German war, or the larger all encompassing WW2 Europe
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RE: Computer Third Reich by Avalon Hill

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Wow a 2004 necro thread :)

My own experience with the PC Third Reich was simply I couldn't stop wanting it to be A3R.
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RE: Computer Third Reich by Avalon Hill

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ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

Wow a 2004 necro thread :)

3R Original is eternal. [:'(]
ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer
My own experience with the PC Third Reich was simply I couldn't stop wanting it to be A3R.

Yes and no. A3R would be even harder to convert. They didn´t even succeed in a completely true 3R conversion. And, sadly, the AI was horrible.
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RE: Computer Third Reich by Avalon Hill

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3R Original is eternal. [:'(]

Well, 3R 4th Ed. is!

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RE: Computer Third Reich by Avalon Hill

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ORIGINAL: Tesuji
3R Original is eternal. [:'(]

Well, 3R 4th Ed. is!


"All 3R originals are eternal, but 4th Ed are more eternal than others." [:'(]
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RE: Computer Third Reich by Avalon Hill

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I've got a copy and am currently playing it again. PM me
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