Pelton(GHC) vs smokindave34 Turn 211 Game Complete DRAW

[M60A3TTS]

ORIGINAL: Pelton

Turn 185 AGN holds the lines for another turn beating back several attacks. The lines are now 50 to 60 miles thick and no enemy breakthroughs. Still 28 hexes to Berlin with 26 turns left. Spring is still 13 or 14 turns away. With the 8 turns of mud that’s a hex ratio of +10. Manpower is down to 66,000 and OOB at 3.8 million.

This is where I would counter the argument that the Axis player be allowed to build on-map units. You would end up with units 100 miles deep and 200 miles wide and that would be ridiculous.

[SuluSea]

Read this front to back last night great game by both players.

While reading this I was blown away by how much territory Pelton was able to seize.
I don't think I'm off base too much but even with house rules favoring the GHC the Soviets are starting to
knock on the door shows weakness in the program. I'd hope WITE 2 at the very least allows morale gains /morale losses according to how the war effort is going at it's mid points instead of total reliance on the historical record.

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: SuluSea

Read this front to back last night great game by both players.

While reading this I was blown away by how much territory Pelton was able to seize.
I don't think I'm off base too much but even with house rules favoring the GHC the Soviets are starting to
knock on the door shows weakness in the program. I'd hope WITE 2 at the very least allows morale gains /morale losses according to how the war effort is going at it's mid points instead of total reliance on the historical record.

There as been changes.

Morale will be based on won lost only, unlike current game that codes in a drop off.

In 43 Russia basicly gets a +20% CV from morale boosts and Germany -20% CV

No skill required.

But that's a long ways off. Not sure where it starts and how it scales up ect ect.

[Peltonx]

Turn 186 Stavka manages to push 10 miles west and now stands 270 miles from to Berlin with 25 turns left. GHC stands and fights for every mile.

[Peltonx]

Turn 187 Stavka now stands 270 miles from to Berlin with 24 turns left. GHC stands and fights for every mile.

[Peltonx]

I have to drop back a few hexes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c3d7QgZr7g

[Peltonx]

After retreating 20 miles the lines are held, again taking a chance.

[Peltonx]

Turn 190 24 hexes to Berlin with 20 turns left with 7 turns of mud.

[Peltonx]

Nothing major happens so I am going to hold the lines as best as possible.

[Peltonx]

The plan is to stop at the first back stop when mud hits. I am giving away a few divisions along the front to by some time.

Once the back stop is hit I should have a constant layer after layer of forts come clear turns, in good terrain with rivers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcCNcgoyG_0

[Peltonx]

Stavka grinds forward and pockets 2 more divisions.

Front line CV is dropping some.

[Peltonx]

The south.

[STEF78]

Pelton does as usual a very good job as german player.

Why is smokindave not attacking all along the front?

Doing only a single frontal attack to Berlin favors the defender

[Peltonx]

Holding the line and no pockets this turn.

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: STEF78

Pelton does as usual a very good job as german player.

Why is smokindave not attacking all along the front?

Doing only a single frontal attack to Berlin favors the defender

A few reasons I believe, but dave would no better.

1. Its winter so low MP's to start with.
2. Layer after layer of forts.
3. I have a single Corp defending 1 hex of frontage and 3 or 4 Corp per Army. So 50 to 100 CV per hex, 2 divisions per Corp in RM + another 4 to 6 divisions in other Corps in same Army.
So allot of RM units add to defence-which means dave needs massive CV to attack a single hex and to take the hex many times several attacks.

Also once he wins a battle the 3 units retreat into forts with divisions on them so he again is facing 50+ CV stacks supported by 6 to 8 possible reserve reaction divisions - so he simply does not have MP or CV to attack the 2nd row of defenders.

[Peltonx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFhM1XZsh6o

[Peltonx]

198

Stavka is only able to grind forward 20-25 hexes per turn.

Germany has a blanket of forts 100 miles thick now with a dozen turns left.

[Peltonx]

Looks like Stavka has only been able to grind forward about 10 hexes in 15 turns.

183 to present

[M60A3TTS]

Can we see an OOB?

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

Can we see an OOB?

Next turn I get I will post it, last one I recorded was


Turn 180
Pelton vs smokendave Russian OOB: 10,104,000 German OOB 3,750,000
Pelton vs smokendave Russian Loses: 9,876,000 German Loses: 3,854,000

Was going to do detail turn 200