Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[thewood1]

I noticed that the F/A-18C had the APG-65 in 1992, and the APG-73 in 1994. I thought the 65 to 73 radar upgrade happened much later, into the late 2000's.

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: thewood1

I noticed that the F/A-18C had the APG-65 in 1992, and the APG-73 in 1994. I thought the 65 to 73 radar upgrade happened much later, into the late 2000's.

Source? [:)]

[alphaone]

Hello!

So far no Mig 23K in database. Any hope?
MiG-23K; It was a carrier-borne fighter variant based on the MiG-23ML.

[&o]

[thewood1]

ORIGINAL: mikmyk

ORIGINAL: thewood1

I noticed that the F/A-18C had the APG-65 in 1992, and the APG-73 in 1994. I thought the 65 to 73 radar upgrade happened much later, into the late 2000's.

Source? [:)]

I was actually looking for one...so stick a ? on the end...does anyone know.

edit...just went through some of my old reference books in the attic. Upgrades of the 65 started in 1994. My original ost was generated from looking at the budget allocation. it had a date of 2004. I think that was the completion date of the final batch. Brassey's states it started in 1994...so...nevermind

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: alphaone

Hello!

So far no Mig 23K in database. Any hope?
MiG-23K; It was a carrier-borne fighter variant based on the MiG-23ML.

[&o]

Got some source info on this? Are you sure you're not thinking the Mig-29?

Mike

[CCIP-subsim]

The MiG-23K would fall under the "hypothetical" category. It never left the drawing board (although the concept had been discussed and proposed, it was never funded for development beyond that stage).

[Pancor]

Hello

it looks like the F-15S has been reengine apparently in 2008 to F110-GE-129C
source
http://www.geaviation.com/press/militar ... 71003.html

and in 2012 it was upgrade again by BAE system it include AN/ALQ-239 Digital Electronic Warfare Systems (DEWS)/AN/AAR-57 Common Missile Warning Systems (CMWS)
source
http://www.airforce-technology.com/news ... -programme

+

The DEWS For the F-15SA is the AN/ALQ-239 while the CMWS for the same aircraft is the AN/AAR-57
source
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... DNXurtcVnA

Thanks

[gosnold]

Hello,

in DB300 build 444, the sensor #2917 - AREOS Recon Pod [IR] has a properties:

Max Range Notes
5 nm Infrared, Reconnaissance Frame Camera

It actually has two sensors: an IR line scanner for low-altitude, and a long-range visible+IR sensor.
The long-range sensor has a range over 50km.

See manufacturer pdf on the sensors:
https://www.thalesgroup.com/sites/defau ... _noref.pdf.

and French national assembly report on the range (in french):
http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/11/rap-info/i3219.asp


The previous generation of this reco system is also missing: it is the Presto recon pod. It has an optical sensor with a range of 35km. It was introduced on French air force Mirage F1 CRs in 2001, so units #1881 - Mirage F.1CR and #3725 - Mirage F.1CR should be able to carry it. Typical loadout would be:


Recon: Presto Pod [ESM], Barax NG DECM Pod, Phimat Chaff Pod
(Unarmed Recon) 1x Presto Pod [ESM]
1x Barax NG DECM Pod
1x Phimat Chaff Pod
2x 1200 liter Drop Tank
550 nm Recon radius, Hi-Hi-Hi profile. Cruise at 36k ft. No form-up time. Cruise at 36k ft. 10% reserves. 3 hrs Day/Night
All-Weather Winchester: Return to base when mission-specific weapons have been expended. Disengage immediately.

like in this photo:

In general, all the optical recon pods in the DB300 have 5nm range, that's a little short.

[gosnold]

Also, some satellites are missing:

ELISA, a NOSS-like constellation of 4 formation-flying satellites, launched by France in December 2011. The mission will continue until 2019
webpage of CNES, the French space agency, on them
wiki:
wikipedia page


If you want the orbits the TLEs are (from Mike McCant's classified TLE page):

Elisa W11
1 38007U 11076A 15252.90790616 0.00000300 00000-0 56573-4 0 02
2 38007 98.0992 325.5583 0002267 84.4245 275.5754 14.64595113 06
Elisa E24
1 38008U 11076B 15254.88917054 0.00000300 00000-0 56589-4 0 06
2 38008 98.1037 330.0742 0002002 20.8939 339.1060 14.64582353 06
Elisa W23
1 38009U 11076C 15253.86452649 0.00000350 00000-0 65997-4 0 06
2 38009 98.0955 326.4881 0002456 307.4667 52.5332 14.64597851 00
Elisa E12
1 38010U 11076D 15254.88932568 0.00000300 00000-0 56588-4 0 05
2 38010 98.1056 330.0778 0001996 359.4702 0.5296 14.64583428 03


CERES, the follow-on system to ELISA, to be launched in 2020. The constellation will have 3 satellites flying in formation.
CNES webpage
wikipedia page

CSO, the follow-on to the Helios II optical observation satellites. 3 satellites, with IR imaging capability. Launches in 2017 at a 800km orbit (probably polar SSO), then at a 480km orbit (launch probably in 2021), and third one in 2021 (probably 800km SSO)
CNES webpage
wikipedia

[blh42]

Swedish Navy A 201 Orion does not have any weapons. It's prepared to mount a deck gun, but the gun was never mounted not not signal hostile intentions.

blh

[severe7]

Hello
In DB444 aircraft ID #3431 F-16AM Falcon MLU Should be named F16BM Falcon MLU since its a double crew one.

[:D] Also for the British Type 45 should not work in warm weather source [:D]

[mikmykWS]

LOL Saw that. Not sure what to do about that one..hehe

[Excroat3]

For a scenario I'm starting work on:

An-71 NATO callsign "Madcap"
Basically an AWACS for the An-71 body
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-71

It is hypothetical unit
Year introduced: 1985

Crew: 6
Length: 23.5 m (77 ft)
Wingspan: 31.89 m (104 ft 7 in)
Height: 9.20 m (30 ft 1 in)
Powerplant: 2 × Progress D-436K turbofan
Powerplant: 1 x Rybinsk RD-38A turbojet, 31.9 kN (7,870 lbf)

Performance

Maximum speed: 650 km/h
Cruise speed: 530 km/h

[blh42]

Svävare 2000 "Hovercraft 2000"



Engine: 2x disels, 35-40 kts with full load, 50 kts with no load.
Max Range: 270nm with full load
Length: 22,5 meters
Width: 11 meters
Load capacity: 11 tons.
Total weight: 49 tons
Troop/cargo capacity: 50 tons
Active years: 2009 -

Source: www.fmv.se/sv/Nyheter-och-press/Nyhetsa ... varet/?p=3

blh

[mikmykWS]

Logged issues up until this point.

M

[Vici Supreme]

Hi!

I got a couple of updates for the German Navy I'd like to share.

Appearantly, the last Sea Skuas in German inventory were expended in exercises at the training range at the Cape of Good Hope in 2014. Both Sea Lynx and Sea King remain with their original roles as ASW and Transport/SAR aircraft. In addition, the MM.38 Exocet, used on the Brandenburg Class frigates and Gepard Class fast patrol boats are said to have reached their servicable life in 2014 with no replacement being in the tubes as well (Even read that vessels of both classes still go to sea with their tubes installed, only to present a "complete" picture to the public).

http://www.marine-offizier-vereinigung.de/fileadmin/assets/PDF/MF_7_2012-Artikel4.pdf (article from 2012 in german)

The last remaining Sea Skua missiles of the Sea Lynx helicopter will be, according to current plans, expended in missile shooting exercises over the course of the next two years. The MM38 Exocet, on board the Type 123 Class frigate and Type 143A Class Fast Patrol Boats will have reached the end of their servicable life in 2014.

Could these developments be implemented into the German DB section?

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Talking about helos of the German Navy. The Sea King in German inventory is and has always been the primary naval utility and land-based SAR platform. Would be cool if that was represented in the DB as well.

#1479 - Sea King Mk41

- Cargo, 4 tons, Slung Load

#96 - Sea King Mk41

- Maritime Surveillance
- Search and Rescue
- Cargo, 4 tons, Slung Load

Sea King loadouts updated.

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#654 - NH90 NTH [Sea Lion] is intended to replace the Sea King in German inventory, not the Lynx. The Sea Lion will take on the current SAR and transport roles of the Sea King, hence the designation NH90 NTH (Naval Transport Helicopter). Feel free to remove torpedos, sonobuoys, dipping sonar and MAD, you won't make anything wrong. The aircraft, according to official figures, won't be equipped with any ASuW or ASW capabilities. I can't tell if the intended maritime radar will be the ENR as the to-be-fitted radar is said to be still in development. Only time will tell. As for the aircraft loadouts, I propose this to be added instead of the ASW loadout:

- Search and Rescue
- Troops, 14x, Seated
- Cargo, 4 tons, Slung Load

Btw, delivery of the initial batch of three helicopters out of a total of 18 is set for autumn 2019.

http://www.marine.de/portal/a/marine/!u ... _AOWmmwI!/
http://www.flugrevue.de/militaerluftfah ... ung/685414

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Also, adjustments for #2512 - F 222 Baden-Wurttemberg [Type F125]. According to various sources, maximum speed of the ship is just 26 knots. Naval Analyses states that the cruise speed is 18 knots. Furthermore, the ship should be equipped with four davits for 11m RHIBs that are currently missing.

http://www.marine.de/portal/a/marine/!u ... y_fwAndo!/
http://www.freunde-fregatte-nrw.de/F223/f223.html
http://navalanalyses.blogspot.de/2016/0 ... es-of.html

Thanks!

[wqc12345]

AN-AWW-13 is a Datalink Pod, but the description seems to think it's a sub hunting pod?

Wrong description, it's pointing to the AN/ALQ-220 Airborne Sweep device.

[thewood1]

Please put that in the descriptions and images thread. Its a community run project for those.

[wqc12345]

Can I ask where this is?

[jun5896]

ORIGINAL: wqc12345

Can I ask where this is?

tm.asp?m=3441939


here