Directive 21 1941-1945 V4.45

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The Finnish 3rd Air Regiment has Me-109 (late) planes in 1941.

The unit does not active until later in the war if I remember correctly around Turn 200.
That being said the entire Finnish Air Force has been reworked in the next version of D21.


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302. Harko has meager 12 210 cm guns but whopping 97 support squads. This composition seems strange to me.

All the Corps HQ have large support units. We added the ArKo units to the Corps HQ units to help speed up the game so there would not be as many units to move. Does not affect game play by having them combined.
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The unit does not active until later in the war if I remember correctly around Turn 200.
That being said the entire Finnish Air Force has been reworked in the next version of D21.
The unit is indeed active too early, that was my point. It is now turn 81 in my game and there are apparently some cases in which equipment appears before their historical dates. On both the German and the Soviet side. I can see that looking at the Inventory&Replacements stats.
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Why does Finland have no railway connections between Northern and Southern parts? The zone of exclusion was removed after capturing Leningrad but I can't get 0-move rail repair unit out of Finland.
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The unit does not active until later in the war if I remember correctly around Turn 200.
That being said the entire Finnish Air Force has been reworked in the next version of D21.
The unit is indeed active too early, that was my point. It is now turn 81 in my game and there are apparently some cases in which equipment appears before their historical dates. On both the German and the Soviet side. I can see that looking at the Inventory&Replacements stats.

Do you have anything specific you can point out. A lot of things are fixed in the next update if there was an error but I cannot check on something if I do not know what is is. This Finnish air units are updated in the next update.
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Why does Finland have no railway connections between Northern and Southern parts? The zone of exclusion was removed after capturing Leningrad but I can't get 0-move rail repair unit out of Finland.

There is a rail repair unit for the north.
The rail connection is not there because there is a different supply format for the south vs the north. We did not want the north to have the same supply as the south even after the capture of Leningrad.
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Why does Finland have no railway connections between Northern and Southern parts? The zone of exclusion was removed after capturing Leningrad but I can't get 0-move rail repair unit out of Finland.
There is a rail repair unit for the north.
The rail connection is not there because there is a different supply format for the south vs the north. We did not want the north to have the same supply as the south even after the capture of Leningrad.
IIRC the gauge of the rail was different as well. They had to manually move the rails to a different
spacing for the gauge of the car that was to travel on it. Sometimes laying a third rail at the right
spacing allowed both gauges simultaneously. I think I read this somewhere.
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IIRC the gauge of the rail was different as well. They had to manually move the rails to a different
spacing for the gauge of the car that was to travel on it. Sometimes laying a third rail at the right
spacing allowed both gauges simultaneously. I think I read this somewhere.
I don't understand your comment. Finland and the USSR had the same railway gauge (5 ft, 1,524 mm) in 1941.

This was because Finland used to be a part of the Russian empire before 1917.

Germany and Poland used the standard gauge back then and still do. (1,435 mm, 4 ft 8,5 in)
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IIRC the gauge of the rail was different as well. They had to manually move the rails to a different
spacing for the gauge of the car that was to travel on it. Sometimes laying a third rail at the right
spacing allowed both gauges simultaneously. I think I read this somewhere.
I don't understand your comment. Finland and the USSR had the same railway gauge (5 ft, 1,524 mm) in 1941.

This was because Finland used to be a part of the Russian empire before 1917.

Germany and Poland used the standard gauge back then and still do. (1,435 mm, 4 ft 8,5 in)
You know more about it than I do so I'm sure you're right. I just feel like I read somewhere that
SOMEBODY had to change the gauge of the rails to use the railroad. I was just guessing it was the
Finns. Do Germany and Poland use the same gauge as the Russians?

Edit: Never mind. I finally figured out what you said.
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Why does Finland have no railway connections between Northern and Southern parts? The zone of exclusion was removed after capturing Leningrad but I can't get 0-move rail repair unit out of Finland.

There is a rail repair unit for the north.
The rail connection is not there because there is a different supply format for the south vs the north. We did not want the north to have the same supply as the south even after the capture of Leningrad.

If that's the case, you need to fix the Finnish supply point at Kemijarvi (122, 48), since it's currently 100%.

Post fall of Lenningrad the Finns probably could capture Petrozavodsk and advance up the Russian rail at full supply regardless of any particular settings up north. OTOH at the point of them getting far enough north for it to matter it's almost to the point of being moot.
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If that's the case, you need to fix the Finnish supply point at Kemijarvi (122, 48), since it's currently 100%.

Post fall of Lenningrad the Finns probably could capture Petrozavodsk and advance up the Russian rail at full supply regardless of any particular settings up north. OTOH at the point of them getting far enough north for it to matter it's almost to the point of being moot.
There's a 125% supply point near Helsinki in Southern Finland. It is removed after Finns link up with Germans.
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