The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert

[AW1Steve]

I just tried uploading it to Drop Box to an old game. Worked great. That's always an option.....

[Lecivius]

Yeah. I don't use either, so it requires time. And any free time I have anymore is play time, not actually DO anything [:D]

[geofflambert]

So I'm running the replay and it seems okay. I got two errors though before having to enter my password. I kinda sorta ignored the first one, but here's the second. Are Steve and I not on the same version?

[geofflambert]

Before I run any more of the replay I'll wait, in case I have to trash the whole thing if we have to start over. So far I saw two encounters with his subs.

[geofflambert]

Matter of fact, I'm going to try and kill the replay, start again and get that first error.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert
Are Steve and I not on the same version?

That's what it looks like from this end.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Lecivius

If you left click it is trying to open a .pws. Is there an option within AOL to Save File? Here is a picture of what a file attached looks like in Gmail. The down arrow is the Download option...

While you're at it, you may want to opt out of future spam mailings from the Children's Hospital of Colorado, Lecivius. [:'(]

[AW1Steve]

It is my understanding that 1.7.11.24 is the current "Official" version. When you try to update the game through the game , that's what you get. Anything else is considered a "beta". Beta's are great , BUT...you need to determine upfront what your using so that YOU both can use it. You can always update BUT BOTH of you must update together. You never said anything about beta's , so when we said "Stock" with no rules , I assumed you knew what you were doing. I reloaded the "Official" stock , with all official updates , knowing that if you wanted to update , you would tell me. Apparently I was wrong. So talk to me. What do you want to do? [&:][&:]

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Lecivius

It does not appear as if you are saving the .pws, but rather the AOL page [&:]

Agreed.

Do you have another email account that's more functional than AOL? Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo, well...just about anything come to think about it...

[geofflambert]

I'm sorry, I've never not used the current beta. It gets worse. Here's the first error. This means we're not even using the same map, doesn't it? How do we recover from this?

[geofflambert]

I'm going to run an errand and let some steam off while I'm doing it. [;)] Be back in an hour or so.

[AW1Steve]

Let's roll back the game start. I would recommend that you do a complete "fresh start" with the original game disc. If you can't find it , let me know and I can drive over so you can use it. I'd recommend doing a new desktop icon (or whatever it's called under windows 10) I'm still on 7 (and will be as long as possible or until someone convinces me that 10's reliable) with a name like "Stock install" or something like that. A completely different folder , with all the maps , and other data there. Once installed , use the "auto update" feature that will take you up to the current "official patch". Then stop. Walk away from the program. TALK to me. Tell me what patches , artwork, mod's , Beta's or even God forbid house rules you'd like. We can negotiate and come to a consensus and go from there. Let's hold on the AAR's till we're stable , organized and ready , unless we have a tech problem which the forumites can help us with. Let's start over and do this by the numbers. That should reduce chaos, angst and teeth-nashing to an absolute minimum. Whaddya say sirs? [&:][&:]

[Lowpe]

Hell, I would like to help but I cannot even remember what side the Gorn is playing![8|]

It might be very simple fix.

[AW1Steve]

He's player 1. AKA the Imperial Japanese Empire. You know, the bad guys. [:D][:D]

[Lowpe]

So, what you are saying is the Gorn actually finished his first turn, sent it to the Allies.

I am guessing the Allies didn't have the PW error, and then the Allies did their turn 1 and sent it back to the Gorn.

Whereupon the PWhex error raised its ugly head for the first time when the Gorn went to watch the glory of turn 1?

[Yakface]

This should be an easy fix - without the need to redo turn 1

Gorn sends his pwhex file over to allied player who overwrites existing pwhex file with it (assuming he has no other games in progess - if other games then make a copy of the game). Gorn runs turn and sends over replay. Allied player runs replay and checks he gets same results.

If results different then the allied player goes back to the turn 1 save file sent by the gorn and allied player reissues orders (with the new pwhex in place). repeat the replay test.

This shouldn't cause too much of a delay (thank god) so get to it!

[Yakface]

Only other problem is if one of you is using extended map and other isn't. then is a matter of the allied player chaning the art files to match pwhex (just get the gorn to zip his and send them over)

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Yakface

Only other problem is if one of you is using extended map and other isn't. then is a matter of the allied player chaning the art files to match pwhex (just get the gorn to zip his and send them over)

That may be more a problem than you suspect. If the 'agreement' was for a stock scenario 1 with the latest 'official' patch and a standard map and the gorn drew up turn 1 on a beta on an extended map, then the Allied player should not feel compelled to play a whole game with these 'unapproved' alterations to the game.

Is my understanding correct that the beta patch does not impact OOB or anything else and that it just affects the .exe? In that case it would be possible for two players to play two different types of the game, right (the Japanese with the beta and the Allied with 'stock')?

I don't see a way around the map issue though. Then again, I've never played with extended map, so maybe it's peachy keen either way.

[geofflambert]

I'm pretty confident I exterminated the extended map. I'm thinking the PWHex error thing might be because I'm using a chemkid mod of the map. If that's all it is it should be no problem. I'm including a screenshot of it here which should be conclusive.

I did confirm that I started the game using the latest beta. I'm cogitating on this and as many of you know that's quite difficult for a gorn. My position at this time is that 1) I don't want to play using Steve's serial number and I haven't found my original disc yet. 2) I propose downloading the latest official patch and making sure it replaces that beta. 3) After having done that start from scratch, I should be able to enter all the orders I did before in a day.

Anyways, if anyone sees that there is a map problem, please advise.

[BillBrown]

That is the stock map and Aden aligns right so you are correct( who knew? ).
I do not think that chemkids map mod changes the pwhex files, just the artwork.