Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!!

[Andy Mac]

[:D][:D] yes that is a bit of an oxymoron

[Monter_Trismegistos]

Hi, any chance for simillar data about your Australian and American armoured force?

[Andy Mac]

Today he hit Perth nasty with BB's and then swept Calcutta looks like we had the same idea at the same time Burma air war is about to get nasty - 1st Op goes in tomorrow lets see how it goes.
 
OK
 
Australian Armour
 
Aus Armoured Regts have a different mixed TOE so its 2 Sqns of Heavy (Matilda's or M3 Lees/Grants) and 1 of Light (Stuarts) with the HQ's being Close Support Matildas (4)
 
So total 40 Heavy and 18 Light Tanks per Regt
 
As this game suffered from the bug most of my Heavies are now committed to M3's
 
I get 7 Indpt Armoured Regts of this type at present they all have about 20 M3's and 10 Stuarts so all 7 of the Regts are at about 50% TOE - in the next 4 months I recieve 216 M3's via convoys enough to bring all the Regts up to strength.
 
I also have 3 Armoured Car Regts (2/11, 2nd Recce and 10th Light Horse - in total they have c 52 Armoured Cars a mix of Marmon Herringtons and locally produced ACV1's) 2 of these units are at full strength.
 
Now on top of those I get 5 Light Horse Cav/Motor Bdes
 
1st Motor Bde has 24 Matilda II's but is due a TOE upgrade to Armoured Cars
3rd Motor Bde has 22 Matilda II's but is due a TOE upgrade to Armoured Cars
3rd Tank Bde has 5 M3 and 7 Stuarts but has a TOE of 120 Heavy and 54 Light Tanks
4th Cav has 36 Matilda II's and 12 Stuarts
6th Cav has 23 Matilda II's and 12 Stuarts
 
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 09, 42
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Morning Air attack on 4th Aus Cav Brigade, at 96,154
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 13
      Ki-48-Ib Lily x 25
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      25 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 20000 feet *
               Ground Attack:  2 x 100 kg GP Bomb
 
Also attacking 5th Australian Division ...
Also attacking 4th Aus Cav Brigade ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 1st Australian Division, at 95,153
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 21
      Ki-48-Ib Lily x 29
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      29 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 20000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
 
Also attacking 2nd Marine Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Australian Division ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 16th Recon Regiment, at 50,143
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 1
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Beaufighter Ic x 1
      B-26 Marauder x 9
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      B-26 Marauder: 3 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
      9 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Vehicles lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 5000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 5000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 5000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
3rd Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      1 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000
      Raid is overhead
 
Also attacking 2nd Tank Regiment ...
 
 
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Ground combat at Oodnadatta (74,149)
 
Allied Shock attack
 
Attacking force 90 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1
 
Defending force 396 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 18
 
Allied adjusted assault: 0
 
Japanese adjusted defense: 7
 
Allied assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 1)
 
Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      21 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
Assaulting units:
    2nd USMC Parachute Bn /88
 
Defending units:
    Yokosuka Assault SNLF /15
 
 

[crsutton]

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac


Australian Armour

Aus Armoured Regts have a different mixed TOE so its 2 Sqns of Heavy (Matilda's or M3 Lees/Grants) and 1 of Light (Stuarts) with the HQ's being Close Support Matildas (4)

So total 40 Heavy and 18 Light Tanks per Regt

As this game suffered from the bug most of my Heavies are now committed to M3's

I get 7 Indpt Armoured Regts of this type at present they all have about 20 M3's and 10 Stuarts so all 7 of the Regts are at about 50% TOE - in the next 4 months I recieve 216 M3's via convoys enough to bring all the Regts up to strength.

I also have 3 Armoured Car Regts (2/11, 2nd Recce and 10th Light Horse - in total they have c 52 Armoured Cars a mix of Marmon Herringtons and locally produced ACV1's) 2 of these units are at full strength.

Now on top of those I get 5 Light Horse Cav/Motor Bdes

1st Motor Bde has 24 Matilda II's but is due a TOE upgrade to Armoured Cars
3rd Motor Bde has 22 Matilda II's but is due a TOE upgrade to Armoured Cars
3rd Tank Bde has 5 M3 and 7 Stuarts but has a TOE of 120 Heavy and 54 Light Tanks
4th Cav has 36 Matilda II's and 12 Stuarts
6th Cav has 23 Matilda II's and 12 Stuarts

Andy are you sure that all seven tank units all have the same amount of tanks? I have three units that have 18 stuarts, and 41 Grant/lees but my other four units have only a skeleton force of tanks and wont take any more making them rather useless. I have enough Grant/Lees in the pool that they should be taking more tanks. I wonder if this is not something left over from the replacment bug?

The three cavalry brigades have a nice force of tanks but are infanty units so are no more mobile than any other foot unit. Too bad as they should have better movement. Still they are great on defense due to the medium tanks.

The motorized brigades are the best with a balanced force and a good mix of tanks. They are mobile and the most useful units that I have in OZ.

The Allied tanks are almost immune to Japanese level bombers. However, the bombers will kill off their motorized support units very fast.

[crsutton]

ORIGINAL: crsutton

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac


Australian Armour

Aus Armoured Regts have a different mixed TOE so its 2 Sqns of Heavy (Matilda's or M3 Lees/Grants) and 1 of Light (Stuarts) with the HQ's being Close Support Matildas (4)

So total 40 Heavy and 18 Light Tanks per Regt

As this game suffered from the bug most of my Heavies are now committed to M3's

I get 7 Indpt Armoured Regts of this type at present they all have about 20 M3's and 10 Stuarts so all 7 of the Regts are at about 50% TOE - in the next 4 months I recieve 216 M3's via convoys enough to bring all the Regts up to strength.

I also have 3 Armoured Car Regts (2/11, 2nd Recce and 10th Light Horse - in total they have c 52 Armoured Cars a mix of Marmon Herringtons and locally produced ACV1's) 2 of these units are at full strength.

Now on top of those I get 5 Light Horse Cav/Motor Bdes

1st Motor Bde has 24 Matilda II's but is due a TOE upgrade to Armoured Cars
3rd Motor Bde has 22 Matilda II's but is due a TOE upgrade to Armoured Cars
3rd Tank Bde has 5 M3 and 7 Stuarts but has a TOE of 120 Heavy and 54 Light Tanks
4th Cav has 36 Matilda II's and 12 Stuarts
6th Cav has 23 Matilda II's and 12 Stuarts

Andy are you sure that all seven tank units all have the same amount of tanks? I have three units that have 18 stuarts, and 41 Grant/lees but my other four units have only a skeleton force of tanks and wont take any more making them rather useless. I have enough Grant/Lees in the pool that they should be taking more tanks. I wonder if this is not something left over from the replacment bug?

The three cavalry brigades have a nice force of tanks but are infanty class units so are no more mobile than any other foot unit. Too bad as they should have better movement. Still they are great on defense due to the medium tanks.

The motorized brigades are the best with a balanced force and a good mix of tanks, infantry and artillery. They are mobile and the most useful units that I have in OZ. In fact my favorite units in the game so far

The Allied tanks are almost immune to Japanese level bombers. However, the bombers will kill off their motorized support units very fast.

The bug was a real bitch as I now have about 200 matildas in my pools with more coming. However, there are no units in either India or Oz that will take matildas as they all jumped to lee/grants during the bug days. The bug is fixed but I can never use these tanks now. Lee/grants are better than matildas but matildas look like king tigers next to any Japanese tank and they would have proved vere useful in filling out my units.

[Andy Mac]

Yup cest las vie no point worrying about it

[traskott]

Very interesting AAR...I face the same trouble, but against a more successfully japanese ( or worse AFB [:D] ).

Just two question:

Is there any chance to hold Australia just with the aussies?
If he cross the line under Brisbane, it would be a mistake ?

Thanks


@edit: oh! Is it really necesary rejoin all the bons and brigades to form Divs ? [:o]

thank u again.

[Andy Mac]

Holding with just the Aussies wil be tough unless both AIF Divs are in theatre
 
e.g. 6th and 7th Aus Divs plus the Arty support that arrives in Aden.
 
Recombining the Divs in Australia is not stricly neccessary and may be a step to far in some cases.
 
Lets me explain why.
 
I am a fan of divs so my first step is always to recombine them BUT that can leave you short of rear area garrions - Australia has a lot of bases and rear area para drops are a PITA
 
So I would be tempted to have 2 or 3 recombined as my main blocking force to support the AIF divs and the Motor Bdes
 
An leave the others scattered as rear area security - I am feeling the lack of small units now v PZB he can find a lot of raiders causing disproportionate damage

[traskott]

Uh, oh.....looks like someone are about to lose whole Australia....

Thanks for the info about divisions...oh, and for ut study of the divisional OOB. Handy when planning what to do and with what.

Just one more question ( ): Are u concerned about the lost of Palmyra and Christmas Island ? They are very near of PH, and this last one, with its "unlimited" troop capacity can be a very tough nut to crack, if u have to reconquer it....

[Andy Mac]

Not really I am planning on retaking themn pretty soon beofr e he gets to set

[Andy Mac]

treied a few things today sending 225 RAF Group to bomb the Magwe Refinery supported by 10th AF Forts
 
Didnt work out to well....
 
126 aircraft sortied in total and my loss was about 50 aircraft mostly in the Blenheims and Hudsons.
 
Most fo rthe fighters didnt fly not a good day

[Andy Mac]

Thats a loss rate that is not sustainable I will need to work at it to increase my fighter cover at long range OR stop flying unless I have heavy fighter cvover

[traskott]

¡¡ 50 !!

sorry hear that....What failed ?

[Andy Mac]

the Sqn on P38's on top cover didnt fly and the Hurricanes it turns out were out of range - doh..

[Nomad]

Do your house rules permit night flights?

[traskott]

Not only the airframes, trained pilots are another trouble.

[Andy Mac]

OK about three days have passed since my last update
 
I commenced night bombing in Burma I have 2 Sqns of Wellington Ic's and they are doing all my night bombing.
 
I will restrict myself to no more than 3 or 4 Sqns total as I dont want to escalate night bombing to much.
 
In Australia I havre railed in a full Corps to Kalgoorlie with a lot of armoured support and have begun clearing up Western Australia.
 
In the East I have pulled back to te Brisbane line and will hold there.
 
As soon as the East is cleared up I will divert forces back to the centre to take Alice Springs and then will turn on the West.
 
I estimate total clearance of Australia ex Darwin in 6 months.
 
In other news 225 RAF Groups AF's were swept by large numbers of japanese fighters. My elite fighter pilots (no one less than 70/70/70) in Hurricanes and Kittyhawks did ok v the Oscars and lost to the Zeroes total losses were about 25 per side.
 
I dont think he will be back each of my sqns had 4 reserve aircraft and 8 extra pilots so next day were almost at full stregnth - I love the reserve aircraft button really gives pool depth some meaning

[traskott]

You looks like very confident about cleaning OZ in 6th months. [:D] Overconfidence is a mistake [:'(]

[khyberbill]

You looks like very confident about cleaning OZ in 6th months.

It is doable. And he admits that Darwin will take longer. I cleared Oz twice in less than 6 months (although not in Scn 2) but I am still trying to clear Darwin in one game. I just bypassed Darwin and am now prepping for Davao.

[Andy Mac]

I am reasonably confident that without further troop injections I can retake Aus ex Darwin reasonably easily.
 
I have 4 or 5 US Divs and the 5 Aus Militia Divs 1 AIF Inf Div plus 4 Cav Bdes plus 2 indian Armoured bdes and about 12 Indpt Tank units plus arty and air superiority and a p[riceless advantage a front in theEast that PZB wont cross he will not want to trigger my reinforcements now so I have left the 5 Militia Divs stiffened by some armour to hold the Brisbane line while the best of my mobile forces clean up Perth area
 
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 20, 42
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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Allied aircraft
      Wellington Ic x 6
 
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Wellington Ic: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       6 x Wellington Ic bombing from 18000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
 
 
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Submarine attack near Soerabaja  at 56,104
 
Japanese Ships
      PB Shonan Maru #2
      DD Hasu
      DD Yukaze
 
Allied Ships
      SS S-40, hits 14, and is sunk
 
 
 
SS S-40 is sighted by escort
S-40 bottoming out ....
DD Hasu attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yukaze attacking submerged sub ....
SS S-40 forced to surface!
DD Yukaze firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 63rd Chinese Corps, at 79,58
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-21-Ic Sally x 25
 
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      Ki-21-Ic Sally: 2 damaged
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      98 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      25 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 10000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 11th Infantry Regiment, at 71,156 (Ceduna)
 
Weather in hex: Light rain
 
Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Beaufort V x 10
      Hudson I x 9
      Hudson III (LR) x 9
      B-17E Fortress x 10
      B-26 Marauder x 10
 
 
No Allied losses
 
Japanese ground losses:
      32 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       9 x Hudson III (LR) bombing from 10000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
       9 x Hudson I bombing from 10000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
      10 x Beaufort V bombing from 10000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
               Ground Attack:  4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
               Ground Attack:  4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      10 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
               Ground Attack:  6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       1 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
               Ground Attack:  4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Ground combat at Kalgoorlie (56,147)
 
Allied Shock attack
 
Attacking force 21602 troops, 554 guns, 526 vehicles, Assault Value = 1109
 
Defending force 3583 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 126
 
Allied adjusted assault: 456
 
Japanese adjusted defense: 28
 
Allied assault odds: 16 to 1
 
Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
 
Japanese ground losses:
      1950 casualties reported
         Squads: 30 destroyed, 68 disabled
         Non Combat: 31 destroyed, 50 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
      Units retreated 1
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      317 casualties reported
         Squads: 2 destroyed, 30 disabled
         Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 39 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
      Vehicles lost 15 (1 destroyed, 14 disabled)
      Units pursuing 6
 
 
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
 
Assaulting units:
    2nd USMC Tank Battalion
    2/7th Armoured Regiment
    2/5th Armoured Regiment
    8th Australian Division
    2/9th Armoured Regiment
    2/6th Armoured Regiment
    2/10th Armoured Regiment
    2/4th Armoured Regiment
    Americal Infantry Division
    44th Australian Battalion
    21/22 Field Regiment
    2/9th Field Regiment
    2/13th Field Regiment
    13th Australian Hvy AA Regiment
    12th RAAF Base Force
    1st Medium Regiment
    46th Construction Regiment
    8th Medium Regiment
 
Defending units:
    21st Infantry Regiment