Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[stilesw]

#4516 - RKF-16C, South Korea
It is tactical reconnaissance and TAC - ELINT aircraft, Thus RKF-16C is only equipped Sensor Pod.

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-WS

[Tookatee]

The #999 Mig-29UB Fulcrum B has a WRA of "Aircraft-Unspecified", I'm not aware of what in a database entry exactly determines what this says (I'm assuming it's the "Type" value), but it should be set to something somewhat similar to the Mig-29A's in the database. If it's because it's a less capable trainer variant then maybe a new descriptor could be written up for those kind of aircraft (maybe in this case something like "Less Capable 4th Generation Fighter/Attack [Trainer]"?)

[KC45]

ORIGINAL: FTBSS

ORIGINAL: KC45

ORIGINAL: FTBSS

Noted that the new HAWC weapon available in the database travels at 1600 NM/hr as this is a hyper-sonic weapon why is the speed closer to mach 2 than mach5+ required to meet the definition of hyper-sonic. I also was surprised by the relatively short range of 130 NM. In the publicly available speculation both the figures I see in game are way off what I have seen online, where did the team get the data used for the specs used in game?

HAWC weapon

https://www.airforcemag.com/Lockheed-Ma ... -Contract/
I guess this is the one. At mid 2018, Devs could not get much detailed information.

I have found more detailed ones than that article but none have range or speed a couple mention mach 20 for weapon systems (not directly for HAWC) and Range between 500-2500 miles. So that is why i wonder why they used such a low speed relative to what a hypersonic weapon is qualified at Mach 5+ and such a short range without any details. I mean at Mach 2 as used its not even Hypersonic as the name implies.

That would be helpful for devs if you post the link to the article.

[Tookatee]

The #1858 HH-65A Dolphin is missing the "HIFR capable" property.

Image of HIFR in progress on a Coast Guard HH-65A.


Source: https://www.facebook.com/USCGCJames/vid ... 168763222/ (Video of the HH-65A's HIFR capabilities in practice from the official Facebook page for the USCGC James)

[14yellow14]

Facility_1560 name appears as SA-24 GROUSE, I think is SA-24 GRINCH

Thanks!

[stilesw]

Facility_1560 name appears as SA-24 GROUSE, I think is SA-24 GRINCH

You are probably correct as the weapon is "SA-24 GRINCH". Likely related to the one who stole Christmas.

-WS

[DeletedUser1730286045]

Hello, I have recommendations of how to improve the Chinese inventory in Command.

1. Ship #3090 - DDG 136 Hangzhou [Pr.956E Sovremenny] (China 2017)
The information for what equips the Chinese refit of this ship is way out of date, most of the weapon systems and radars as modelled in-game are wrong.

Overall its weaponry should be:
- 2x 324mm TT Triple (Yu-7)
- 2x AK-130 Twin
- 4x AK-630M Gatling
- 1x China Towed Acoustic Decoy
- 2x China Type 726-4A DL
- 2x China VLS [16-cells]
- 1x HHQ-10 [24 rnds]
- 2x YJ-12 Quad

Its radars should be:
- 1x Type 366 Radar (associated with YJ-12 targetting, ELINT and OTH surface search)
- 1x Type 344A Radar (domestic radar for guidance of AK-130 guns)
- 1x Type 382 Radar (Air-and-Surface search radar)
- 1x Type 364 Radar (Target indicator radar, air search)
- 2x Type 347B Radar (associated with AK-630M CIWS)
- 4x AJK-16 Radar (FCR associated with HQ-16A)
- 2x NRJ-6A (ECM/DECM/OECM/RWR suite, as on Type 052C/D destroyers)

This is quite significantly different from how the Sov is currently modelled. Also the date needs changing to 2020, as DDG-136 is still not yet recommissioned.

2. Ship #2834 - Type 055 Nanchang [101 Nanchang, Zheng He] (China - 2020) is listed as having 128 VLS cells. In reality it should only have 112 VLS cells. Also "Zheng He" is the name for a Chinese training ship, so it should be removed from the name.

3. The game is lacking variants of the Type 052D Destroyers. As the improved Type 052DL is in service (lengthened for a larger helicopter pad/hangar, improved air search radar, Type 1130 CIWS) this really should be added.

4. Aircraft #4900 J-11BG has been given its (speculated) AESA radar from the J-16, but the old Type 1474 radar hasn't been removed from the model in-game.

5. Ship #3153 Type 075 LHD has been misnamed 'Type 75 LHD'.

6. Ship #2002 Type 22 Houbei has been misnamed 'Type 022'.

7. Ship #2834 Type 055 Nanchang has got the name "Zheng He" in it in game. This is the name of a Chinese training ship. If anything #2834 should have its NATO name "Renhai".

8. Ship #2007 Type 001 Liaoning has got the name "Shi Lang" in it in game. This was a rumour name given while Liaoning was being refitted, never a proper name, so it shouldn't really be there.

9. Aircraft #2057 J-10C should have a helmet mounted sight / display in its properties.

10. Aircraft #4837 H-6N should be able to carry KD-63 and KD-20 just as H-6K can.

11. Aircraft #4882 Z-20F should have a loadout option with pylons for mounting 8x HJ-10 or YJ-9 missiles.
Also, the expected Z-20 ASW variant would be a welcome addition to Command.

12. Aircraft #2493 Z-10 should have a 23mm cannon, not a 12.7mm HMG.
Further, it should have the option to carry up 8x TY-90 SRAAMs.
It should also have the option to carry larger 18 shot rocket pods.

13. Aircraft #3305 should have the same option to carry TY-90 SRAAMs as Z-10.

14. GJ-11 Sharp Sword Stealth UCAV would be welcome in the game.

15. Ditto WZ-8 Hypersonic air-launched UAV. Might be difficult to model in Command as it is launched from a bomber.

I wish I could post all the links I have to confirm the information I’ve given here, but it seems I haven’t enough forum posts to do that or something. I'm happy to provide them if its required to get a fix approved.

[bounce220]

Please could the Mobile Offshore Base (Hypo Unit) Unit-2755 runway length be increased to 2001m-2600m to allow for larger US AC (P8a/B52/KC10a/C5 etc)
Whilst the original concept was for a runway of 2K, I enjoy testing various force concepts and the increase would allow greater variety of support missions.
If not willing to update is it possible to create a new unit (essentially copy and paste of the current MOB but with the increased runway length?

[rmwilsonjr]

I got a real chuckle playing a scenario that employed DB3000 #476 small boat (7m) in deploying secret agents to a waiting sub, and the boat was moving at 12 kts. When I looked at the image, I was surprised to see a sail boat of maybe 25-28 feet in length, under full sail. Top speed of this craft was 18 kts according to the DB! Having for many years sailed and raced boats in classes smaller and larger than the boat in the image, I can assure you that it could not attain a speed anywhere near 18 kts even if it were sailing in a hurricane. That boat has a hull speed of maybe 6 or 6.5 kts. Its diesel engine can push it to maybe 7 or 8, but it will begin to vibrate itself apart before it approaches 12. There has to be a stock photo of a 7 meter powerboat somewhere you could use. [:)] Thanks for all you do to make this the best game on the planet.

[Lnestig]

Hello
I don't know if this have been adressed before but could you consider to add USMC LAV-25 variants?

LAV-25A2
Funding has been approved for continued upgrades to the LAV family to bring them up to the LAV-A2 standard. Phase I improvements include increased external and internal ballistic armor upgrades, improved fire suppression equipment, and upgrading the vehicle's suspension to the Generation II standard.[8] Phase II upgrades include replacing the turret hydraulics with an electric drive system and replacing the thermal sight with an improved model incorporating a laser range finder for aircraft.
To reflect the improved significant survivability and capability enhancements occurring today, the LAV is being renamed as the LAV-A2. The LAV-A2 project involved developing and installing an internal and external ballistic protection upgrade package, developed by Armatec Survivability,[9] for the Light Armored Vehicles, an automatic fire suppression system for the interior of the vehicle and a Generation II suspension upgrade to support the added weight of the new armor. The suspension upgrade includes new struts/steering knuckles, torsion bars, shocks and mounts and drive shaft. The three-kit armor system provides the LAV with additional survivability against improvised explosive devices (IED) and direct-fire kinetic energy weapons.
The LAV-25A2 includes the Improved Thermal Sight System (ITSS) developed by Raytheon, scheduled for fielding by the end of 2007. The ITSS provides the gunner and commander with thermal images, an eye-safe laser range finder, a fire-control solution and far-target location target grid information.[10]
The new armor will provide protection from 14.5 mm armor-piercing rounds, and include an anti-spall lining on the inside to further protect crew members.

LAV-25A3
In January 2019, General Dynamics was awarded a $37.2 million contract to upgrade the Marine Corps' LAV fleet. Designated the LAV A3, upgrades include improvements to the powerpack to improve reliability, cooling capacity, diagnostics, and fuel economy, a new drivetrain for improved towing capability, a steering dampener to improve road feel and usability, and a digitized drivers' instrument panel. The initial contract was for 60 hardware kits which are planned for installation by 2021.

LAV-AT (fitted with a Emerson 901A1 TOW-2 ATGM (Anti-Tank Guided Missile) launcher, It is also armed with a pintle-mounted M240E1 or M240B general-purpose machine gun. It carries a total of 16 TOW missiles, and 1,000 rounds of 7.62 mm ammunition)

LAV-M (fitted with opening doors on the top, inside it is fitted with an 81 mm M252 mortar, with 360° traverse, and a pintle-mounted M240E1 machine gun. It carries 99 81 mm mortar shells, and 1,000 rounds of 7.62 mm ammunition.)

LAV-AD (fitted with an electric turret mounting a General Dynamics GAU-12 Equalizer 25 mm (0.984 in) 5-barreled Gatling cannon, and two missile pods each with 4 FIM-92 Stinger missiles for Short Range Air Defense (SHORAD) duties. Capacity for 990 rounds of 25 mm ammunition, and 16 (including 8 reload rounds) FIM-92 Stinger missiles.

[Lnestig]

Regarding the LAV-25 post above

A LAV-M Section includes 2 LAV-M
A LAV-AT Section includes 4 LAV-AT
The LAV-AD seems to be out of the USMC inventory but a LAV-AD section included 4 LAV-AD

[x2oop]

Hi, please add Egyptian MiG-29M/M2 and Ka-52 "Nile Crocodile"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamov_Ka- ... ocodile%22
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-29M#Egypt

[bartcbem]

Poland officially bought the F-35, they could be added as a hypothetical future units for now. I`m not allowed to post links yet so hers a quote:

WARSAW, Poland — Polish Defence Minister Mariusz Blaszczak has signed a contract worth $4.6 billion under which the country will acquire 32 F-35A Lightning II fighter jets from the United States.

Speaking at the official signing ceremony on Jan. 31 in Deblin, where the Polish Air Force operates its 41st Training Aviation Base, Blaszczak said that the acquisition will enable the Polish military to make a technological leap.

“Today, through the signing of the F-35 deal, the air force is entering a new phase of its development,” the minister said.

In line with earlier announcements, the deal does not comprise an offset agreement. Polish ministry officials have said the decision helped Poland reduce the final price tag of Lockheed Martin’s fifth-generation fighters. Last September, the U.S. State Department approved the sale for a maximum price of $6.5 billion.

“The agreement foresees the delivery of 32 multi-role aircraft … along with a training and logistics package,” the Polish ministry said in a statement.

With the delivery of the aircraft, which is scheduled to begin in 2024, Poland is to become the first user of the F-35s in the region, adding the aircraft to its fleet of 48 F-16 C/D Block 52+ fighters. Warsaw plans to replace the Air Force’s outdated Soviet-designed Sukhoi Su-22 and Mikoyan MiG-29 jets with its new fifth-generation jets.

[14yellow14]

The ESSM missile (AEGIS) can be guided by the AN/SPY-1D radar and not only by the AN/SPG-62 FCS

Using solid fuel, ESSM travels at Mach 4, relying on inertial and semi-active radar for guidance. Evolved Seasparrow Missile In the Aegis Weapon System variant, an S-band transceiver allows for guidance from the Aegis SPY-1D S-band radar.

https://missilethreat.csis.org/defsys/e ... sile-essm/

Lockheed Martin And Navy Mark Another First With Aegis-Guided ESSM Missile Flight

For the first time at sea, the Lockheed Martin-developed Aegis Weapon System successfully guided an Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile (ESSM) from the Aegis guided missile destroyer USS Shoup operating in the Pacific test range off the coast of California.

The test demonstrated the Aegis Weapon System's capability to launch and guide an ESSM to a successful intercept. The Aegis Weapon System provided S-band midcourse guidance to the ESSM missile through the SPY-1 radar system. The test, conducted by an operational U.S. Navy crew and sponsored by the NATO Sea Sparrow Project Office, followed earlier subsystem-validation tests conducted at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico during the past year. The test is a key risk-reduction step and begins a rigorous at-sea test trial period.

The ESSM missile, now being integrated into U.S. and international Aegis- class ships, will improve ship self-defense capability against advanced anti- ship cruise missiles.

"The success of today's test once again demonstrates the Aegis Weapon System's ability to evolve to meet emerging threats in addition to countering current threats," said Fred Moosally, president of the Surface Systems unit of Lockheed Martin Naval Electronics & Surveillance Systems (NE&SS) in Moorestown, N.J. "Our transformational system continues to provide naval forces what they need to succeed in any environment. This is a key milestone demonstrating that the ESSM can be guided by the SPY-1 family of radar systems."

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... y-25).html


Thanks!

[stilesw]

Please add Fateh-313 Missiles. These are updated of Fateh 110 with at least more range. 500 km

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-WS

[Defencegreece]

Hello

Turkish F-16 (Peace Onyx) have wrong/missing Loadouts

For Peace Onyx I F-16s: Current loadout only has only ΑΙΜ-9L (Heavy and light), please consider that THK currently uses them with 2 AIM 120B and 2 AIM 9M, please add them in the loadout

-Except Peace Onyx IV: rest of the CCIP turkish F-16 (PO II,III) are limited to AIM-120B variant, please fix it as they currently have another 250 of the C variant used by their whole CCIP fleet

-F-16 Block 50 Peace Onyx III CCIP: missing SOM A cruise missile (not the case for PO II CCIP and PO IV)

-You could add also for their Peace Onyx IV F-16 Block 50 Advanced the use of AIM-120D variant. They have ordered limited number

BR
Defencegreece

[stilesw]

Hello, I have recommendations of how to improve the Chinese inventory in Command.

Request noted. However, when you are able please provide documentation about these changes.
Thanks,
-WS

[Parel803]

Possible addition to de DB3000 Ships:

The CMN build, HSI 32 is deliverd to Saudi Arabia.
First two are Sidenr 315 & 316 (of 39 iaw Janes)(21 build in France, 18 build in SA)

CMN https://www.privinvest.com/naval-vessel ... tor-hsi32/
https://www.janes.com/article/93905/fir ... naval-base
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... erceptors/
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... m-cmn.html
https://www.homelandsecurity-technology ... 32-vessel/
https://twitter.com/hashtag/hsi32

Length 32,2 mtr, Beam overall 7 mtr, Speed overall 43 knots (CMN) - 45 kts (Naval news) - 33kts=800nm & 43kts=580nm, Draught overall 1,4 mtr, Range 800 nm, crew 12 (extra up to 64)
Armned Nexter 20mm Narwhal remotely operated (2x 12,7 mm machine gun are not seen on images)
4,8 mtr Rhib can be on the deck
2 generators, 3 diesel engines, 3 waterjets (2 steering & 1 booster)

Guess from images: I band navigation radar, E/F band surveillance radar, Elecro-optical sensor. Cannot see if there is a C-ESM fitted, documentation say it can)


For the coast of Brest photo for Mozambique:
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/pho ... id=2281969
To Mozambique:
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/sea/sea-se ... ozambique/
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... nched.html

Not sure if the Mombique version has same weapons and communication fit.

with regards

[Parel803]

A possible addon (MLU version) to the DB3000 DB

Turkey's Frigat Barbaros has had a MLU
https://www.janes.com/article/93995/tur ... rigate-mlu
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/turkish- ... am.649420/
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/worldar ... 76415.html
https://www.navalanalyses.com/2019/11/m ... e-mlu.html (2nd)

- Thales Smart-S Mk 2 air/surface surveillance radar has replaced the BAE Systems AWS-9 radar in all four ships, and the MK 29 Sea Sparrow launchers have been replaced with Mk 41 vertical launch systems (VLSs) in the two Track IIA frigates.
- ARES-2NC; ES/EP/EA
- The MAR-D solid-state active electronically scanned array air search radar developed by Aselsan will be located at the top of a new second mast. The MAR-D has a reported range of 100 km.
- Under the MLU the Turkish Navy is planning to remove the Oerlikon-Contravers Sea Zenith gun mounts and Contraves Sea Guard fire control radar.

This is what I could find.

with regards

[Parel803]

A possible addition to the 3000 DB:
Russian Alexandrit class Minesweeper.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandri ... inesweeper
https://tass.com/defense/1059253
https://tass.com/defense/1061761
https://tass.com/defense/1114081
http://russianships.info/eng/warships/project_12700.htm
https://www.naval-technology.com/projec ... s-vessels/
https://navaltoday.com/2020/01/07/new-p ... sian-navy/
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... /12700.htm (cannot see, no member)
https://seawaves.com/2019/01/16/project ... ea-trials/

with regards