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[Demonius]

Forgot one on the STO commodities List

Unrefined Ketracel White

[ehsumrell1]

Good one Demonius! One of the more 'deadlier' resources if found by the Dominion. [:)]

[tjhkkr]

Will you put out a revised resource list?
I know you already did a lot of work...
I am not keeping up with all the changes... (my problem, not yours)

[Igard]

Sure TJ. Here's the entire resource list as I have it now. If you like, you can replace these lines in your own gametext.txt file. Just be sure not to delete any lines. Items that need to be replaced are highlighted.

I'm not going to use Ketracel. It's only use is to the Dominion, so not much point in others mining it. Good idea though Demonious. I like those duty officer assignments!


Aculon ;Tritanium
Aquasian Incense ;Latinum
Argon ;Argon
Bifurian Silk ;Tholian Silk
Caguar Fur ;Sehlat Fur
Carbon Fibre ;Carbon Fibre
Caslon ;Deuterium
Chromium ;Duranium
Dantha Fur ;Tarcassian Razorbeast Fur
Dilithium Crystal ;Dilithium Crystal
Ekarus Meat ;Targ Meat
Emeros Crystal ;Tabalian Glass
Falajian Spice ;Hasperat Spice
Gold ;Gold
Helium ;Helium
Hydrogen ;Hydrogen
Ilosian Jade ;Ilosian Jade
Iridium ;Iridium
Jakanta Ivory ;Mugato Ivory
Korabbian Spice ;Korabbian Spice
Krypton ;Krypton
Lead ;Lead
Loros Fruit ;Loros Fruit
Megallos Nut ;Kava Nut
Natarran Incense ;Bataret Incense
Nekros Stone ;Nekros Stone
Nepthys Wine ;Saurian Brandy
Osalia ;Osalia
Otandium Opal ;Otandium Opal
Polymer ;Polymer
Questurian Skin ;Questurian Skin
Rephidium Ale ;Romulan Ale
Silicon ;Silicon
Steel ;Steel
Terallion Down ;Terallion Down
Tyderios ;Tyderios
Ucantium Pearl ;Ucantium Pearl
Vodkol ;Vodkol
Wiconium ;Blood Wine
Yarras Marble ;Jevonite
Zentabia Fluid ;Tranya

[tjhkkr]

You are very kind IGard. Thank you very much!

I forgot about Tranya... Data will not be long in discovering it though!

[Igard]

You're welcome TJ. As long as he's not drinking all my Romulan Ale, that's fine with me!

Just thinking here guys...

Deuterium is mainly used to power impulse engines and RCS thrusters. I think Sabre21 mentioned anti-matter?

I think I'll make these changes :-

Caslon ;Anti-matter
Tyderios ;Deuterium

That might make more sense. Any objections? [&:]

[Tophat1815]

No I think you hit this one as well............

warp Engines= Anti-matter

The Romulans use what a micro singularity? (why? Because its sci-fi and they are nuts)

Too bad you can't have a First Federation bubble, light-bulb ship commanded by a baby out on a Tranya hunt. What a surprise encounter that would be![:D]

[ehsumrell1]

ORIGINAL: tjhkkr

You are very kind IGard. Thank you very much!

I forgot about Tranya... Data will not be long in discovering it though!

Just project this image whenever Data hails you TJ..... [:D]

[Ardryn]

It seems the Dominion's third victory condition is to control 33% of all None colonies, tall order that! I guess everyone is just playing against them, hm?

[Igard]

Yeah, still working on those victory conditions! I think I've already fixed that one for the next update, Ardryn, but I'll double check. Thanks for reporting, but there are lots more errors in the victory conditions I still need to sort. [:)]

[Tophat1815]

ORIGINAL: Ardryn

It seems the Dominion's third victory condition is to control 33% of all None colonies, tall order that! I guess everyone is just playing against them, hm?

wow....first post and full-court press of sarcasm. How efficient of you.and ahem,i guess welcome to the boards.[;)]

[tjhkkr]

ORIGINAL: Igard

You're welcome TJ. As long as he's not drinking all my Romulan Ale, that's fine with me!
Just thinking here guys...
Deuterium is mainly used to power impulse engines and RCS thrusters. I think Sabre21 mentioned anti-matter?
I think I'll make these changes :-
Caslon ;Anti-matter
Tyderios ;Deuterium

That might make more sense. Any objections? [&:]

Makes sense...

[Ardryn]

Yeah, my wit is of the desert variety; I try to reign it in around text-only areas. I meant to imply that everyone is probably playing as the Feddies/Klings/Roms, with the Dominion as a potential enemy. Something of which I was guilty of until just a few hours ago!

[Igard]

That's how I read it. I took your post as nothing other than constructive feedback, Ardryn. Oh yes, and welcome aboard. [:)]

For some reason, we can't set the victory condition to control 33% of 'all' colonies in the galaxy. It has to be 33% of a planet type. So I changed it to continental.

OK,I've changed deuterium to replace tyderios and caslon is now Antimatter. [:)]

I've also updated all these new resources into the galactopedia.

I'll see if I can get the next total conversion update this weekend, then hopefully sort out the victory conditions and do some basic resource bonuses before releasing Picard 1.0 perhaps early next week.

[Tophat1815]

ORIGINAL: Ardryn

Yeah, my wit is of the desert variety; I try to reign it in around text-only areas. I meant to imply that everyone is probably playing as the Feddies/Klings/Roms, with the Dominion as a potential enemy. Something of which I was guilty of until just a few hours ago!

Sorry,think I am a bit oversensitive on the sarcasm. LOL.......[:D] Worrynot,you have inspired me to try the Dominion! Though I really dislike those guys!

[Ardryn]

The Dominion is interesting, if only for being friends with the Cardies and Breen, but they're so slow compared to the Federation, the latter of which I can get to tech level 3+ all around, with most of the wonders, and controlling a large chunk of the galaxy, all less than 25 years into the game! I think the main culprit to the Dominion being slow is the fact that the "Trade with other Empires" check-box is off in the default Dom policy, which might account for significant loss of revenue. Either way, they're never terribly powerful in the games I play, even if I beef them up with excellent starting systems, and tweak them with the in-game editor. The one time I tried playing as them I wound up losing one of my starting colonies to the Son'a! Oh, the shame!
I actually gave them and the Breen +30 and 20, respectively, to colony income just now to see if that is indeed the case. The Breen actually got to around five systems before I encountered them in my latest game, whereas before they rarely got past one or two, but the Dominion got squished in the corner with the Cardies and another race.

Edit: I should mention that I get the Feddies to that state with everything on automation, just choosing what techs to go after and crash researching when I have a good surplus, all of my games so far have been on Huge/Huge, 100% colony influence range, and colony founding limit to two sectors, all other settings are normal. I do have it set to generate a dozen and a half empires, with the Dominion, Klingons, and Romulons as the only guarantees.
Or maybe the problem is the Federations compounding research bonuses.

[Demonius]

Damn, I was just going to suggest to change Tyderios to Metreon Gas.

[Igard]

Ardryn, thanks for the report. The Federation are very strong at research. The problem with crash researching everything, is that the AI can't keep up with you. So take a strong research empire like the Feds, crash researching is way overpowered. If I nerf the Feds research bonus, the AI controlled Fed empire will become too weak. It's all about balance.

I'll definately look at improving Dominion income. I've gone through some old saves and it looks like they do struggle financially.

Demonius, Metreon gas is a good one! I'm not sure if it can replace anything. Krypton and Argon are of course real elements, but aren't they only used for lighbulbs? I think Argon is pretty cheap and abundant, so might be a likely candidate for replacement. Any objections to :-

Argon ;Metreon Gas

[&:]

[Demonius]

That would surely work...

But lets take a step back and look at the big picture. the game uses 2 Resources for fuel purposes, Hydrogen for fusion type reactors and Caslon for the fission/quantum types. Tyderios, is described as mostly being used in Weapons, Reactor components which is the same description used for Argon. In reality Argon is quite slow to react with anything given its status as a noble gas and its atomic build-up. In Star Trek, Metreon Gas is something that is quite the thing to go explody when you just look sharply at it.

Now, just ot be obnoxious about it, this is what I would do.

Caslon as the starter fuel - change to Tritium - used for heavy water, atomic bombs and other nice stuff, also used specifically mentioned in star trek by klingon reactors. Tritium has a more "clumsy" feeling about it than Deuterium and would fit nicely to the fission/quantum reactors.
Hydrogen - change to Deuterium - no spacefaring race in their right mind would need to mine and import hydrogen? when its so easy to create it right from the water of your home planet? Deuterium and anti-deuterium create the reaction in star treks antimatter reactors.
Tyderios - change to Metreon Gas just to have it my way, ofc noone knows what Tyderios would be like.
Argon - keep it as is, its used specifically mentioned in some ST episodes, Helium and Krypton are also still available but only used as strategic component resources. If Helium was a fuel, it should ofc rather be Helium³ which is looked at being a fusion reactor fuel. All the noble gases might be more convenient to get from a pure gas planet sourcce than refining them out of traces from a habitable planets atmosphere.
As for antimatter as a resource by itself - I dont think theres so much pure antimatter lying around in the universe to go and scrape it off planets. Thats why star fleet used those miniscule Anti-Deuterium amounts in their reactors to get it from reacting with normal deuterium on a dilithium crystal. Or whatever.

[ehsumrell1]

ORIGINAL: Ardryn

The Dominion is interesting, if only for being friends with the Cardies and Breen......

The one time I tried playing as them I wound up losing one of my starting colonies to the Son'a! Oh, the shame!

Sorry Ardryn.....no hard feelings!

Respectfully yours,
Admiral Ruafo





.....and welcome to the DW forums!