2x3+ Teams Axis&Soviet Wanted

[SparkleyTits]

So are all 5 people on the soviet team possibly beginner level now or I am misunderstanding?

I for one think it is a great idea for the ground commanders of the Axis to outclass the Soviet counterparts but I do feel we would definitely need a supreme commander that does understand the game to a decent level as our guide and leader as without a strong and knowing hand to guide us a feel a team made entirely of beginners would fall apart very very quickly and offer no real fun for either team against well grizzled opponents

[Telemecus]

If that is true that is a serious point. I think only a few have indicated their experience here. I know it is not easy to give an idea of how experienced you are - but if you are on the starting line up it could help to give a judgement.

[Neogodhobo]

Im okay to be a Soviet Supreme, but I have never played the Soviet on this game before. I do understand soviet strategies, I do understand we need to put factories in the East, and things like that. If im only there to coordinated strategies, and tell players to do stuff, I think I would do good.

I dont know how to perform the factories to go to the East, but Im sure, as supreme commander, I can just delegate this to someone else, while deciding WHEN we do it.

I kinda agree that an experienced soviet supreme would probably be best though haha, but I feel comfortable doing it nevertheless.

[SparkleyTits]

I would definitely class myself as a beginner I have the basics down fine but with only 3 multiplayer games under my belt none of which lasting past the first blizzard experience is an issue for me

I am very inexperienced and am yet to understand many of the nuances of multiplayer so everytime I experience something new which is constantly I struggle to understand what to do and how best to react without turning it into an incorrect series of moves followed by a death spiral

That is why I thought it would really help us to have decent leadership as if others were also in the same boat as me (I know that drakken is in the same boat as me as I have read his AAR Doctorking also said he was new although I am not sure about our southern commanders they only have 4 posts in the matrix forums so being new I thought was a plausible guess)

If we are told how to react with a guided hand and a commander who understands the game on a decent level then we could all minimise mistakes while still allowing the Axis commanders to have their fun before the blizzards otherwise if our commander is also new like the rest of our team we will just end up being headless chickens and poor sport I fear

[Telemecus]

I guess that means that ground commanders are all new to the game. If so the only issue would be the balance of Supreme Commanders? I would say I am experienced on the Axis side. I have actually never really had a long game as Soviets, it would be my first time properly. Although I think I know quite a lot about that role from playing against it. I usually play and enjoy the Axis side.

If there were more than two people going for Supreme Commander I would be quite happy to stand back and let two others take it on. There would be a balance for sure then. Personally I would be quite happy to be a friend to the game and offer advice. I could be given title of chief military adviser! If I had the passwords of both sides though I could not be a reserve future player or member of either team.

Perhaps we need another Supreme Commander - and it does not matter if they are experienced or not as they could be matched with the same? If any of the existing ground commanders want to step up would that do it?

[Crackaces]

One possiblity is to get the game started and then with the publicity in the AAR .. more players wanting to join in ..thus start with a beginner supreme commander say turn 1 (likely a week or so ) and go from there?

[Neogodhobo]

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

One possiblity is to get the game started and then with the publicity in the AAR .. more players wanting to join in ..thus start with a beginner supreme commander say turn 1 (likely a week or so ) and go from there?

Im not sure changing Supreme commander after the game start is a good idea.

[Crackaces]

ORIGINAL: Neogodhobo

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

One possiblity is to get the game started and then with the publicity in the AAR .. more players wanting to join in ..thus start with a beginner supreme commander say turn 1 (likely a week or so ) and go from there?

Im not sure changing Supreme commander after the game start is a good idea.

I might propose there are 5 very distinctive phases to this game ..
1. German offense .. take initial objectives in 18 weeks
2 Russian winter offense
3 German offense II focused on the south
4 Red Army II German transition
5 The race for Berlin

If phase 1 fails .. Germans resign .. no game ..
If phase 2 fails still a game see Sillyflower vs Brian
If phase 3 fails .. German resigns

Then it is a matter of keeping the Russkies out of Berlin

If you want to keep the game going the guy running the Germans had to know what they are doing and guide a consistent offense ..
on the other hand the Soviets (if they can keep morale up ) have a lot of room to play with for an expert to save the day

[SparkleyTits]

Well fingers crossed this is going to be an enjoyable long term commitment for us all

The best chances of that happening is if we start on the correct footing for all parties involved, be patient and not go off half cocked otherwise one of the teams is likely to break down and we will have to search for new comrades in arms from step one again

[thedoctorking]

I think it would be best for everybody if I didn't have such a central role for the outcome of the whole game as Axis AG Center commander!

Maybe the person currently assigned Soviet Southern Front would like to swap?

[thedoctorking]

If not, I'll do my best for the cause of Western Civilization [:D]

[SparkleyTits]

Our south and south western commanders are a duo of friends under one account I believe

I am happy to fill any role as I am here for the experience and knowledge that can be gained from bouncing ideas and strategics with so many other teamates so if you or anybody else does want to swap with me just ask and I will gladly switch as I really don't mind at all what position I play aslong as everybody is happy

[thedoctorking]

ORIGINAL: SparkleyTits

Our south and south western commanders are a duo of friends under one account I believe

I am happy to fill any role as I am here for the experience and knowledge that can be gained from bouncing ideas and strategics with so many other teamates so if you or anybody else does want to swap with me just ask and I will gladly switch as I really don't mind at all what position I play aslong as everybody is happy

Whichever you like. What role do you have right now?

I'm basically here to learn as well.

[SparkleyTits]

I am playing nortern front for mother Russia at the moment

It's completely up to your preference buddy don't feel obliged to switch if you would prefer AGC I am happy with literally any front

[thedoctorking]

ORIGINAL: SparkleyTits

I am playing nortern front for mother Russia at the moment

It's completely up to your preference buddy don't feel obliged to switch if you would prefer AGC I am happy with literally any front

Are you more experienced than I? Have you played against humans before?

I would feel more comfortable with playing defense at first if you are ok with that

[SparkleyTits]

I have played three games against humans so far so I still definitely class myself as inexperienced and a beginner but I have the mechanical basics down so I am comfortable if you would prefer to play defence mate yeah.

No problemo

[thedoctorking]

ORIGINAL: SparkleyTits

I have played three games against humans so far so I still definitely class myself as inexperienced and a beginner but I have the mechanical basics down so I am comfortable if you would prefer to play defence mate yeah.

No problemo

OK, let's do it, then. I'm the northern front Russian.

[Neogodhobo]

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

ORIGINAL: Neogodhobo

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

One possiblity is to get the game started and then with the publicity in the AAR .. more players wanting to join in ..thus start with a beginner supreme commander say turn 1 (likely a week or so ) and go from there?

Im not sure changing Supreme commander after the game start is a good idea.

I might propose there are 5 very distinctive phases to this game ..
1. German offense .. take initial objectives in 18 weeks
2 Russian winter offense
3 German offense II focused on the south
4 Red Army II German transition
5 The race for Berlin

If phase 1 fails .. Germans resign .. no game ..
If phase 2 fails still a game see Sillyflower vs Brian
If phase 3 fails .. German resigns

Then it is a matter of keeping the Russkies out of Berlin

If you want to keep the game going the guy running the Germans had to know what they are doing and guide a consistent offense ..
on the other hand the Soviets (if they can keep morale up ) have a lot of room to play with for an expert to save the day

I dont know... Im alright with just playing the damn game. haha. No rules, just, fight to the death until 1945. War has no rules after all.


One thing I was thinking about is having a forum for "Top Secret documents captured"

Meaning that, every operation the enemy team prepared, a couple of turns before actually doing the operation, the supreme commander would roll 3 dice at the same time, if the number is 4 or lower. He needs to take one of his front commander's objective and overall plan, and post it in the "Top secret documents captured"

Meaning the enemy would have access to the plan. Every supreme commander would also be allowed to post FAKE operation in that thread. Meaning that, the enemy would never be sure if the operation is real or fake. The chances of hitting 4 or lower is extremely low.

I think that would add a lot of realism to the game....Just an idea like that though.

http://dice.virtuworld.net/?nr=39we

[Neogodhobo]

Im not sure if the other supreme commander have the idea of coming up with operation though. I was thinking about drawing strategies and objectives, and making a sound plan with the help of each ground commander. and deciding overall what to do as a supreme commander, and then putting the operation official and distributing each goal to every front commander a couple of turns before executing it. Wich would mean, before each attack, I would have an operation planned, named, documented and dated. Wich would be perfect for the "Top secret Documents captured" thread.

[Crackaces]

ORIGINAL: Neogodhobo

Im not sure if the other supreme commander have the idea of coming up with operation though. I was thinking about drawing strategies and objectives, and making a sound plan with the help of each ground commander. and deciding overall what to do as a supreme commander, and then putting the operation official and distributing each goal to every front commander a couple of turns before executing it. Wich would mean, before each attack, I would have an operation planned, named, documented and dated. Wich would be perfect for the "Top secret Documents captured" thread.

The decisions that will have to be made really might not be so focused on secret plans .. I might propose they are mainly focused on where AP's are spent (HQBU's vs OOB ), some allocation of OKH resources , re-purposing of units between fronts .. think of all the big decisions and allocation of resources you make as a single player .. now think 3 players vying for AP's as an example. Fix Gudarin's OOB? Or save AP's so Armor can cut off PSKOV ...

There are subtle compromises in objectives and corrdination between fronts .. but I would contend my previous statement is the big job of the supreme commander for OKH ..