Moderator: maddog986
ORIGINAL: Tomn
That said, Aurelian is proving himself thoroughly unsatisfying as a debating partner,
ORIGINAL: Blighty56
Its my personality [;)]
ORIGINAL: gexmex
ORIGINAL: Blighty56
Lol yep but she's no jewellery fan[:(]
No Jewelry? No handbags? How do you appease her????????????????????????? haha
ORIGINAL: Alchenar
. Honour has been satisfied. You get to declare victory and walk off into the sunset now.
I admire your patience and persistence. I find it inspiring. But when someone reacts to your comment "I have brought new ideas to the table and not had them answered" with the response "Perhaps you should bring something new to the table", it is pretty much a lost cause. Especially when it occurs multiple times.ORIGINAL: Tomn
Well, I HAVE bought forth points in relation to everything you've said (seriously, I've written a lot of stuff here, and I do think at least part of it is worth reading), but as it happens I DO have some hard numbers and I DO have a competitor running pretty much the same deal and getting much better results.
ORIGINAL: Alchenar
In the twenty pages of this thread I have not seen (user's name redacted) make a single post that wasn't a one or two line thin ad-hominem or a demand that people 'go away'.
I smile, seeing that my prediction came true. You have the patience of a saint, sir.ORIGINAL: Tomn
Dude.
Matrix Games sold their games on the App Store.
They did much, much better than their PC sales - better than they expected.
I tried to analyze why.
Not only do I have data, I have Matrix's own freakin' data about their own freakin' games and their own freakin' sales.
Would you mind actually reading that stuff over before you decide that it's completely valueless?
But with questions unanswered, and a potentially intelligent debate sabotaged as discussion of Russian firearms and baubles continues.ORIGINAL: Alchenar
It's okay Tomn. Honour has been satisfied. You get to declare victory and walk off into the sunset now.
ORIGINAL: Primarchx
Page 21 Summary, Goldilocks style...
* This porridge is too hot!
* Good porridge needs to be hot.
* Everyone would eat porridge if the cooks deferred to the advise of internet culinary experts.
* I don't even eat porridge but have a strong opinion on its' ambient temperature.
* Huh? I like this porridge just the way it is. Please, sir, I want some more.
ORIGINAL: Tomn
ORIGINAL: Rob322
Can I ask for a moment whether it really matters if you convince anyone or not? Internet chat boards are usually a bad place to convince people to change their minds and agree with you. And why should they be? No one knows anything about the person they're arguing with. Even if credentials are stated, there's no clear reason why they should automatically be accepted. That's why these things typically devolve into nonsensical rants or name calling and people arguing past one another. Anyhow, who cares if Aurelian read what you wrote; isn't your argument with Matrix? It shouldn't be with the other players but with them. If Matrix is uninterested in discussing this with you then you're stuck. Or you're doomed to this thread, continually arguing with other players in an ever deepening spiral of bickering until eventually the thread is locked. It's your choice of course, I'm not telling you to stop or how to use your time but the folks still fighting the fight (whichever side) are just banging their heads against the wall right now.
Well, as it happens, I like debate. It's something of a hobby of mine. I like trading points, analyzing rebuttals, coming up with counter-arguments and wording it all with the best rhetoric I can come up with. It's fun, and it's interesting in and of itself - the more so when it's for a cause that does seem worthwhile. Call it verbal wargaming, y'know? And I do like to try and keep things on the level when I do so, and I do think that good debate can produce worthwhile discussions and change some key minds (my own being no exception, mark!) It might be a bit odd, and I might spend a bit too much time doing it, but I don't think anyone here is in any real position to throw the first stone when it comes to spending too much effort on their hobbies, eh?
That said, Aurelian is proving himself thoroughly unsatisfying as a debating partner, so yeah, I suppose I should back off him now. I don't suppose you'd have anything to share, though? You seem like a reasonable guy.
ORIGINAL: Aurelian
ORIGINAL: Blighty56
Its my personality [;)]
ORIGINAL: gexmex
No Jewelry? No handbags? How do you appease her????????????????????????? haha
That works too!!
ORIGINAL: dutchman55555
I smile, seeing that my prediction came true. You have the patience of a saint, sir.
...we just had our first child.so,need all our money at the moment...looks good though congrats on all involved in it...but just out of my "free money" rangeORIGINAL: Banquet
I'm interested in Astronomy and bought some planetarium software to display the night sky on my computer. It's very detailed and cost me £250 (Starry Night Pro Plus)
I also like photography, and purchased Photoshop CS5 for about £600
I like making videos and Sony Vegas editing software costs me about £500
I like wargaming, including modern air/naval combat, and bought Command for £65
Does any of the software above have more 'data' or 'programming' or 'code' than normal priced games such as GTA V, EUIV, or HOI3? Probably not. It seems to me they are more expensive because there is a relatively small pool of people who can provide the knowledge to create the software, and because there is a relatively small potential number of buyers. I wish there were more people interested in software like this because then I would have to pay less for it, but I am mostly just grateful that there are people making the software at all.
ORIGINAL: patroklus
for the amount of game in Command I think the price is well justified
my 2 cents
[:)]
ORIGINAL: Alchenar
PS. Despite everyone, and I mean Paradox fans, Matrix fans, everyone agreeing that HOI3 is a terrible, terrible game, Paradox people have repeatedly said that it's their most financially successful game/franchise. There's a lot of people out there looking to spend money on a complicated looking WW2 grand strategy game, even one that gets panned by all the internet reviewers that Matrix are so scared of.
No argument about Steam, but I'll expand it and say they got themselves out there, period.ORIGINAL: Alchenar
The fact that Unity of Command, basically the successful modern indy wargame is what it is, is because the developers were smart: they kept their focus tight, their game small, their UI 21st century, and their costs and therefore price low and they got themselves onto Steam and made a decent pile of money for themselves.
