Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

[jhnbr400]

B-52 G ang H loadout during Vietnam in incorrect. We only carried 27, 750 pound bombs internally during Vietnam. The wing racks were not adopted until 1975, and after the last AGM-28 hound dog was retired.

[Scorpion86]

Greetings! In this episode, I turn my attention to the venerable A-1 Skyraider, more precisely the EW variants!

Without further ado, my cerrections:

Sensors:

AN/APS-20F

- Radars of this series were capable of detecting surface ships, and so this radar should have the “Surface Search” tag.

Aircraft:

#2154, #544, #85 – AD-5N Skyraider

- Avionics:
---Radar: AN/APS-31C
---Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
---RWR: AN/APR-9B, AN/APR-13
---Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)
---Sonobuoy receiver

- Weapons:
Max capacity: 8000 lbs.
Centerline:
---1 Torpedo OR
---1 Mk.54 depth charge OR
---1 100/250/500/1000/1600/2000 lbs. bomb OR
---1 500/1000/2000 lbs. mine OR
---1 150/300 USGal fuel tank OR
---1 Aero 2A sonobuoy dispenser (16 sonobuoys) OR
---1 AN/APT-16 jamming pod (S-band)
Inner wings:
---2 Torpedoes OR
---2 Mk.54 depth charges OR
---2 100/250/500/1000/1600/2000 lbs. bombs OR
---2 500/1000/2000 lbs. mines OR
---2 Tiny Tim rockets OR
---2 150/300 USGal fuel tanks OR
---2 Aero 2A sonobuoy dispensers (16 sonobuoys each) OR
---2 MX-900A chaff dispensers
Outer wings:
---12 HVAR rockets OR
---12 Mk.54 depth charges OR
---12 100/250 lbs. bombs OR
---6 500 lbs. bombs

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/AD-5N_ ... l_1956.pdf
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/A-1G_S ... y_1967.pdf
https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a265494.pdf
 
#3163, #3157, #3156 – AD-4N Skyraider

- Avionics:
---Radar: AN/APS-31B
---RWR: AN/APR-9B
---Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)
---Sonobuoy receiver

- Weapons:
---Centerline: 1 pylon (max capacity 2000 lbs.)
---Inner wings: 2 pylons (max capacity 2000 lbs.)
---Outer wings: 12 pylons (max capacity 500 lbs.)
---Max total capacity: 6500 lbs. (ship)/9000 lbs. (shore)

- Known loadouts:
---1 AN/APT-16 jamming pod (S-band), 2 MX-900A chaff dispensers
---1 torpedo, 2 Aero 2A sonobuoy dispensers (16 sonobuoys each), 8 HVAR rockets

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/AD-4N_ ... r_1952.pdf
https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a265494.pdf

#3664, #3353, #301 – Douglas AD-5W Skyraider

- The only sensor equipment this aircraft carried was the AN/APS-20B radar.
- The radar should have 360º coverage.
- This aircraft carried no ordnance, only 2 150 or 300 USGal fuel tanks during patrols.
- Please remove the AN/APR-12 RWR and the AN/ALQ-31 DECM.

Sources:
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/item/ ... craft.html
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/AD-5W_ ... y_1952.pdf
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/AD-5W_ ... y_1956.pdf

#3152, #3150 – Douglas AD-2Q Skyraider

- Avionics:
---Radar: AN/APS-4
---RWR: AN/APR-1
---CMD: MX/356A chaff dispenser

- Please remove the internal AN/ALQ-31 DECM and the pod.
- Please remove the AN/ALE-1 dispenser.

Sources:
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/ai ... craft.html
 
#3155, #3351, #3149, #132 – Douglas AD-3W and AD-4W Skyraider

- The only sensor equipment this aircraft carried was the AN/APS-20 radar.
- The radar should have 360º coverage.
- Please remove the AN/APR-1 RWR.

#3349, #3154 – Douglas AD-3Q Skyraider

- Avionics:
---Radar: AN/APS-4
---RWR: AN/APR-9
---CMD: manual chaff dispenser (chute)

- Please remove the AN/ALQ-31 DECM pod.

Sources:
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/ai ... craft.html

#3350, #90 – Douglas AD-4Q Skyraider

- Avionics:
---Radar: AN/APS-19A
---RWR: AN/APR-9

- Weapons:
Max capacity: 7000 lbs.
Centerline & inner wings:
---3 Mk.13B torpedoes OR
---3 Mk.54 depth charges OR
---3 500 or 2000 lbs. bombs OR
---3 1000 or 2000 lbs. mines
Outer wings:
---12 HVAR rockets OR
---12 100 or 250 lbs. bombs OR
---2 Tiny Tim rockets

- Please remove the AN/APR-13 RWR and the internal AN/ALQ-31 DECM and the pod.
- Please remove the AN/ALE-1 dispenser.

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/AD-4Q_ ... r_1949.pdf
 
#3352, #302 – Douglas AD-5Q Skyraider

- Avionics:
---Radar: AN/APS-31C
---Radar bombsight: AN/APA-16
---RWR: AN/APR-9B, AN/APR-13
---Searchlight (70*10^6 candles)
---Sonobuoy receiver

- Known loadouts:
---1 300 USGal fuel tank, 2 AN/ALT-2 jamming pods (X-band) and 1 MX-900A chaff dispenser
---2 300 USGal fuel tanks and 2 AN/ALT-2 jamming pods (X-band)

- Please remove the AN/ALE-1 dispenser.

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/AD-5Q_ ... l_1950.pdf
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/EA-1F_ ... y_1967.pdf
https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a800170.pdf

[Scorpion86]

Greetings once again! I've once again dug into my pile of Standard Aircraft Characteristics scans and came up with a few requests, now for the venerable A-7 Corsair. Please look into the A-7A, A-7D and A-7K documents, as they have some nifty little charts with the the types of weapons the aircraft can carry, how many and in which stations! Thanks once again, and off with the requests!

#480, #1355, #1356 – Vought A-7D Corsair II

- Avionics:
---Radar: AN/APQ-126(V)
---RWR: AN/APR-37 + AN/APR-36
---CMD: AN/ALE-40(V)11

- Engine:
---Designation: TF41-A-1
---Thrust: 14250 lbs. (military)/12950 lbs. (normal)
---Total fuel: 1425 USGal (total internal)

- Maximum weapon load: 19000 lbs. + 2 AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles
---2 Sidewinder rails
---4 3500lbs-capacity pylons
---2 2500lbs-capacity pylons

- Used ECM pods (2):
---AN/ALQ-71(V)2 or (V)3
---AN/ALQ-87
---AN/ALQ-101(V)1, (V)3, (V)4 or (V)6
---AN/ALQ-119(V)16 or (V)17
---AN/ALQ-131(V)

- Used flare dispensers (2):
---SUU-25C or -25E
---SUU-42

- For more information on possible loadouts, please consult the source document: the last pages have nifty charts with all compatible stores and maximum number per pylon.

- Uses boom refuelling instead of probe refuelling.

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/A-7D_C ... r_1986.pdf
 
#666, #3336, #1348, #3337, #1349, #3338 – Vought A-7A Corsair II

- Avionics:
---Radar: AN/APQ-116
---RWR: AN/ALR-15

- Engine:
---Designation: TF30-P-6
---Thrust: 11350 lbs. (military)/9100 lbs. (normal)
---Total fuel: 1515 USGal (total internal)

- Maximum weapon load: 19000 lbs. + 2 AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles
---2 Sidewinder rails
---4 3500lbs-capacity pylons
---2 2500lbs-capacity pylons

- Used ECM pods (2):
---AN/ALQ-31A
---AN/ALQ-76
---AN/ALQ-81

- For more information on possible loadouts, please consult the source document: the last pages have nifty charts with all compatible stores and maximum number per pylon.

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/A-7A_C ... y_1967.pdf

#1350, #3339, #1351, #3340, #1352, #3341 – Vought A-7B Corsair II

- Avionics:
---Radar: AN/APQ-116
---RWR: AN/APR-27 + AN/ALR-25 + AN/ALR-26
---Internal ECM: AN/ALQ-100
---CMD: AN/ALE-29A

- Engine:
---Designation: TF30-P-8
---Thrust: 12200 lbs. (military)/9600 lbs. (normal)
---Total fuel: 1500 USGal (total internal)

- Maximum weapon load: 19000 lbs. + 2 AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles
---2 Sidewinder rails
---4 3500lbs-capacity pylons
---2 2500lbs-capacity pylons

- Used ECM pods (2):
---AN/ALQ-81
---AN/ALQ-88

- For more information on possible loadouts, please consult the source document of the A-7A: the loadouts will be similar, and the last pages have nifty charts with all compatible stores and maximum number per pylon.

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/A-7B_C ... y_1970.pdf
 
#1353, #3342, #3043, #3343, #1354, #3344 – Vought A-7C Corsair II

- Avionics:
---Radar: AN/APQ-126(V)
---RWR: AN/APR-27 + AN/APR-25(V)
---Internal ECM: AN/ALQ-100
---CMD: AN/ALE-29A

- Engine:
---Designation: TF30-P-8
---Thrust: 12200 lbs. (military)/9600 lbs. (normal)
---Total fuel: 1496 USGal (total internal)

- Maximum weapon load: 19000 lbs. + 2 AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles
---2 Sidewinder rails
---4 3500lbs-capacity pylons
---2 2500lbs-capacity pylons

- For more information on possible loadouts, please consult the source document of the A-7A: the loadouts will be similar, and the last pages have nifty charts with all compatible stores and maximum number per pylon.

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/A-7C_C ... l_1972.pdf

#658, #3345, #1243, #3346, #1244, #3347 – Vought A-7E Corsair II

- Avionics:
---Radar: AN/APQ-126(V)
---RWR: AN/APR-27 + AN/APR-25(V)
---Internal ECM: AN/ALQ-100
---CMD: AN/ALE-29A

- Engine:
---Designation: TF41-A-2
---Thrust: 15000 lbs. (military)/12950 lbs. (normal)
---Total fuel: 1476 USGal (total internal)

- Maximum weapon load: 19000 lbs. + 2 AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles
---2 Sidewinder rails
---4 3500lbs-capacity pylons
---2 2500lbs-capacity pylons

- For more information on possible loadouts, please consult the source document of the A-7A: the loadouts will be similar, and the last pages have nifty charts with all compatible stores and maximum number per pylon.

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/A-7E_C ... l_1972.pdf

#1357 – Vought A-7H Corsair II

- Identical to the A-7E except in the absence of an in-flight refuelling system.

- Avionics:
---Radar: AN/APQ-126(V)
---RWR: AN/APR-27 + AN/APR-25(V)
---Internal ECM: AN/ALQ-100
---CMD: AN/ALE-29A

- Engine:
---Designation: TF41-A-2
---Thrust: 15000 lbs. (military)/12950 lbs. (normal)
---Total fuel: 1476 USGal (total internal)

- Maximum weapon load: 19000 lbs. + 2 AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles
---2 Sidewinder rails
---4 3500lbs-capacity pylons
---2 2500lbs-capacity pylons

- For more information on possible loadouts, please consult the source document of the A-7A: the loadouts will be similar, and the last pages have nifty charts with all compatible stores and maximum number per pylon.

Sources:
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/A-7E_C ... l_1972.pdf
https://www.vought.org/products/html/a-7h.html

And as a bonus, a request for correction of a recon aircraft that has no recon cameras!

#2201, #2200 – RF-100A Super Sabre

- Recon equipment:
---3 left oblique/vertical/right oblique (60º from vertical) K-17 cameras
---2 vertical K-38 cameras with slightly tilted axis to provide partial overlap

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Ame ... uper_Sabre
http://www.spyflight.co.uk/f100.htm

[OsirisRaptor]

The 1979 Boeing Flying Aircraft Carrier

[Ancalagon451]

A pair of erratas:

All Sea Hawk FB and FGA variants have the same strike range (250nm) for short range (4 bombs) and long range (2 bombs & 2 Drop tanks) RAF 500lb bombs loadouts.

All AS-1 Kennel loadouts have 6hr rearming time. This seems odd when any other bomber loadout, be it of guided missiles or plain unguided bombs have a 20hr rearming time.

Ancalagon

EDIT: Found more 6hr arming time loadouts for strategic bombers in the DB, so the second point above becomes moot, still there seems to be no discernible criteria for the 6/20hr alocation so perhaps those times should be re-checked against sources

Also found another errata, al variants of M-4/3M Bison have listed strike ranges in excess on 3000nm. This must be wrong since any Bear variant (with succeded the Bison as the main VVS bomber due to it's longer range) plus far modern bombers like B-1B, B-2A or Tu-160 have strike ranges between 2000-3000nm

[Schr75]

Hi Sirius

All B-36 variants have about three times the fuel consumption at cruise power compared with military power.
This seems a bit odd[:)]

Thanks

Søren

[doabliptnk]

ORIGINAL: Schr75

Hi Sirius

All B-36 variants have about three times the fuel consumption at cruise power compared with military power.
This seems a bit odd[:)]

Thanks

Søren

All the EC-121 variants have similar performance details.

Take an EC-121D for example, at 36000-45000 ft:
-Loiter speed takes 18.75 kg/minute
-Cruise speed takes 23.44 kg/minute
-Military speed takes 8.47 kg/minute

It is indeed a bit odd.
This is from CWDB build 476.

[dpabrams]

#235 P-2H (P2V-7) Neptune (US-1957) HAS A RANGE OF OVER 5000 nm!

[doabliptnk]

#3802 - EC-135H "Silk Purse" (United States - 1870)
I think it should be 1970

[.Sirius]

Fixed

[.Sirius]

Fixed

[SunlitZelkova]

I would like to request some hypothetical early Cold War attackers, as well as request some historical changes to the Tu-16s as I have recently bought a book filled with detailed information on the series.

First up is the attackers-

Please note that it is late where I am so for now I will only provide the loadout options and the names of the planes, as well as other armament. I will provide performance data shortly.

Su-6 -- Soviet Union [-1991] (Frontal Aviation [VVS]), AM-42 engine, 37mm

2x 37mm NS-37 cannons- 90 rounds of 37 AP ammo (45 rounds per gun), the guns could only fire together so this weapon should be added as a "2 round burst" weapon in the database. The 37mm cannons could be loaded with HE ammo as well, or a universal belt with a mix of AP and HE. Currently different ammo types aren't really available for guns on planes, but because of the nature of this weapon (37mm AP was intended solely for tanks) hopefully something could be done to allow switching ammo types, even if it meant having to manually apply it after takeoff (similar to the torpedo loadouts on some submarines).

2x 7.62mm ShKAS machine guns- 1500 rounds of ammo (750 rounds per gun), the guns could only fire together.

12.7mm Berezin UB machine gun in rear turret- 196 rounds of ammo.

Loadout options-

16x 25kg AO-25M-1 bombs

6x 50kg FAB-50 bomb

4x 100kg FAB-100 bomb

6x 100kg FAB-100 bomb

2x 250kg FAB-250M-43 bomb

6x 50kg FAB-50 bomb + 10x RS-82 rockets

6x 50kg FAB-50 bomb + 10x RBS-82 rockets

16x AO-25M-1 bomb + 10x RS-82 rockets

16x AO-25M-1 bomb + 10x RBS-82 rockets

10x RS-132 rockets

10x RBS-132 rockets

Su-6 -- Soviet Union [-1991] (Frontal Aviation [VVS]), AM-42 engine, 23mm

2x 23mm Vya-23 cannons- 240 rounds of ammo (120 rounds per gun), the guns could only fire together.

2x 7.62mm ShKAS machine guns- 1500 rounds of ammo (750 rounds per gun), the guns could only fire together.

12.7mm Berezin UB machine gun in rear turret- 196 rounds of ammo.

Loadout options-

16x 25kg AO-25M-1 bombs

6x 50kg FAB-50 bomb

4x 100kg FAB-100 bomb

6x 100kg FAB-100 bomb

2x 250kg FAB-250M-43 bomb

6x 50kg FAB-50 bomb + 10x RS-82 rockets

6x 50kg FAB-50 bomb + 10x RBS-82 rockets

16x AO-25M-1 bomb + 10x RS-82 rockets

16x AO-25M-1 bomb + 10x RBS-82 rockets

10x RS-132 rockets

10x RBS-132 rockets

Su-6 -- Soviet Union [-1991] (Naval Aviation [AV-MF]), M-71F engine

2x 37mm NS-37 cannons- 90 rounds of 37 AP ammo (45 rounds per gun), the guns could only fire together so this weapon should be added as a "2 round burst" weapon in the database. The 37mm cannons could be loaded with HE ammo as well, or a universal belt with a mix of AP and HE. Currently different ammo types aren't really available for guns on planes, but because of the nature of this weapon (37mm AP was intended solely for tanks) hopefully something could be done to allow switching ammo types, even if it meant having to manually apply it after takeoff (similar to the torpedo loadouts on some submarines).

2x 7.62mm ShKAS machine guns- 1500 rounds of ammo (750 rounds per gun), the guns could only fire together.

12.7mm Berezin UB machine gun in rear turret- 196 rounds of ammo.

Loadout options-

16x 25kg AO-25M-1 bombs

6x 50kg FAB-50 bomb

6x 100kg FAB-100 bomb

2x 250kg FAB-250M-43 bomb

6x 50kg FAB-50 bomb + 10x RS-82 rockets

6x 50kg FAB-50 bomb + 10x RBS-82 rockets

16x AO-25M-1 bomb + 10x RS-82 rockets

16x AO-25M-1 bomb + 10x RBS-82 rockets

10x RS-132 rockets

10x RBS-132 rockets

Sources for all three aircraft-

https://wiki.warthunder.com/Su-6_(AM-42)
https://wiki.warthunder.com/Su-6_(M-71F)

I apologize for using the wiki of another game as a source but there are literally no other English sources with detailed information.

Now for the Tu-16. All data is from the book titled Tupolev Tu-16: Versatile Cold War Bomber by Yefim Gordon, Dmitriy Kommissarov, and Vladimir Rigmant.

Please note that it is late where I am so for now I will just provide the missing loadouts and the correct naming/date changes for the current "original" Tu-16 we have in the game. I will supply the various other data shortly.

DBID #629 Tu-16 Badger-A, should have the following name-

Tu-16 Badger-A -- Soviet Union [-1991] (Long Range Aviation [DA]), sans suffixe, 1954)

Sans suffixe is the term casually used at the end of Soviet aircraft types that have no variant defining suffix letter. For example, the first production version of the MiG-17, which did not have a letter to denote a certain version, would be referred to as the MiG-17 sans suffixe.

The "From" date should be changed to 1954 while the "Until" date can remain as 0, as the Tu-16 bomber version continued to serve past 1979, albeit in small numbers.

Data for the loadouts can be found on page 305 of the book.

Changes to loadouts-

The 2x RN-42 nuclear bomb loadout should be removed. The original version of the Tu-16 could not carry these (Note- a will make a separate request detailing various Soviet strategic nuclear weapons later as most of them have some inaccuracy).

The 40x FAB-250M-54 loadout should be removed. Only missile carrier variants of the Tu-16 were capable of mounting external bomb racks.

The 26x FAB-500M-54 loadout should be removed. Only the missile carrier variants of the Tu-16 were capable of mounting external bomb racks.

Loadouts that should be added-

24x FAB-250M46 bombs

18x FAB-500M-46 bombs

6x FAB-1500M-46 bombs

6x FAB-1500M-54 bombs

2x FAB-3000M-46 bombs

2x FAB-3000M-54 bombs

1x FAB-5000M-54 bomb

1x FAB-9000M-54 bomb

16x FAB-250M-43 bombs

12x FAB-500M-43 bombs

4x FAB-1000M-43 bombs

4x FAB-2000M-43 bombs

1x BrAB-6000 armor piercing bomb

4x AMD-500 mines

12 x AMD-500 mines

4x AMD-1000 mines

6x AMD-2M mines

8x AMD-2M mines

8x IGDM mines

6x Serpey mines

8x Desna mines

8x Lira mines

4x RAT-52 torpedoes

6x 45-36MAV torpedoes

Thank you for considering my requests.

[dpabrams]

In the database viewer it lists the description as the AGM-62 I ERDL

[Scorpion86]

ORIGINAL: dpabrams

In the database viewer it lists the description as the AGM-62 I ERDL

The descriptions in the database viewer are fan-made and not in the CWDB (or DB3K) proper.
You can report this problem in this thread.

To Admins:

Maybe we should have a sticky warning people not to post description bugs in this thread and redirecting them to where they should go? It's not the first time I've seen this either on this or the DB3K thread. Just a suggestion.

[SunlitZelkova]

I am now able to provide the performance data for the attackers as well as other data for the Tu-16.

Su-6 -- Soviet Union [-1991] (Frontal Aviation [VVS]), AM-42 engine, 37mm

Category: Fixed Wing

Type: Attack

Length: 9.24 meters

Wingspan: 13.5 meters

Height: 3.89 meters

Crew: 2

Empty weight: 4000kg

Max weight: 5534kg

Max Payload: 0 kg (assuming payload refers to cargo)

OODA cycle: N/A (not familiar with how this is calculated)

Aircraft size: Small aircraft (0-12m long)

Agility: N/A (in the database, there is a number, I don't know what that number actually refers to or how it is calculated)

Average climb rate: 40 meters per second (this number is based on the IL-10, the Su-6 with the AM-42 engine apparently had slightly worse performance due to having more armor. I was unable to find a number for the aircraft)

Instantaneous climb rate, S/L: 120 meters per second (this number is based on the IL-10, the Su-6 with the AM-42 engine apparently had slightly worse performance due to having more armor. I was unable to find a number for the aircraft)

Take-off/Landing Distance: 410 meters/730 meters TOD/LAD

Cockpit visibility: Forward: Average, Sideways: Average, Aft: Average

Armor: Fuselage: Rifle Resistant? (I am unsure whether parts of the cockpit qualify as the fuselage. Due to the aircraft's size, half of the plane could be considered to be armored, but it is all around the crew, meaning it could be considered to be the cockpit. Apart from around the cockpit area and the engine, there is no armor (although there is a 6mm steel plate in the propeller spinner/the front of the engine), Cockpit: Rifle Resistant? (The sides have steel plates of 4mm and 6mm thickness, there is a 10mm steel plate between the gunner and the pilot, and there are 12mm and 10mm steel plates protecting the gunner, while there is 64mm bulletproof glass used for the front windows and the rear window for the gunner. Considering the normal engagement distances for 7.62mm/Rifle rounds, and that the armor thickness varies, I don't know what the exact classification within CMANO's armor system would be), Powerplant: Handgun Resistant? (It has 4mm of steel all around, considering the normal engagement distances for 7.62mm/Rifle rounds, I don't know whether that amount of armor would still qualify as "Rifle Resistant" or not)

Damage points: N/A (I am unsure how this is calculated)

Sensors/EW-

1x Mk1 Eyeball

Comms/Datalinks-

HF Radio (Secure)

UHF Radio (Secure)

Signatures-

N/A (I am unsure as to how to calculate this)

Properties-

Bombsight - Basic (Assuming this refers to the pilot's gunsight, for example, being used to aim bombs or rockets, as otherwise, this aircraft has no "conventional" bombsight)

Propulsion-

1x Mikulin AM-42 #1

Technical details-

Same as IL-10 (assuming performance is based purely on the engine and not the airframe)

Performance details for Mikulin AM-42

Same as IL-10 (assuming performance is based purely on the engine and not the airframe)

Fuel-

Same as IL-10 (I am unable to find the fuel amount for the Su-6)

Su-6 -- Soviet Union [-1991] (Frontal Aviation [VVS]), AM-42 engine, 23mm

Category: Fixed Wing

Type: Attack

Length: 9.24 meters

Wingspan: 13.5 meters

Height: 3.89 meters

Crew: 2

Empty weight: 4000kg

Max weight: 5534kg

Max Payload: 0 kg (assuming payload refers to cargo)

OODA cycle: N/A (not familiar with how this is calculated)

Aircraft size: Small aircraft (0-12m long)

Agility: N/A (in the database, there is a number, I don't know what that number actually refers to or how it is calculated)

Average climb rate: 40 meters per second (this number is based on the IL-10, the Su-6 with the AM-42 engine apparently had slightly worse performance due to having more armor. I was unable to find a number for the aircraft)

Instantaneous climb rate, S/L: 120 meters per second (this number is based on the IL-10, the Su-6 with the AM-42 engine apparently had slightly worse performance due to having more armor. I was unable to find a number for the aircraft)

Take-off/Landing Distance: 410 meters/730 meters TOD/LAD

Cockpit visibility: Forward: Average, Sideways: Average, Aft: Average

Armor: Fuselage: Rifle Resistant? (I am unsure whether parts of the cockpit qualify as the fuselage. Due to the aircraft's size, half of the plane could be considered to be armored, but it is all around the crew, meaning it could be considered to be the cockpit. Apart from around the cockpit area and the engine, there is no armor (although there is a 6mm steel plate in the propeller spinner/the front of the engine), Cockpit: Rifle Resistant? (The sides have steel plates of 4mm and 6mm thickness, there is a 10mm steel plate between the gunner and the pilot, and there are 12mm and 10mm steel plates protecting the gunner, while there is 64mm bulletproof glass used for the front windows and the rear window for the gunner. Considering the normal engagement distances for 7.62mm/Rifle rounds, and that the armor thickness varies, I don't know what the exact classification within CMANO's armor system would be), Powerplant: Handgun Resistant? (It has 4mm of steel all around, considering the normal engagement distances for 7.62mm/Rifle rounds, I don't know whether that amount of armor would still qualify as "Rifle Resistant" or not)

Damage points: N/A (I am unsure how this is calculated)

Sensors/EW-

1x Mk1 Eyeball

Comms/Datalinks-

HF Radio (Secure)

UHF Radio (Secure)

Signatures-

N/A (I am unsure as to how to calculate this)

Properties-

Bombsight - Basic (Assuming this refers to the pilot's gunsight, for example, being used to aim bombs or rockets, as otherwise, this aircraft has no "conventional" bombsight)

Propulsion-

1x Mikulin AM-42 #1

Technical details-

Same as IL-10 (assuming performance is based purely on the engine and not the airframe)

Performance details for Mikulin AM-42

Same as IL-10 (assuming performance is based purely on the engine and not the airframe)

Fuel-

Same as IL-10 (I am unable to find the fuel amount for the Su-6)

Su-6 -- Soviet Union [-1991] (Naval Aviation [AV-MF]), M-71F engine

Category: Fixed Wing

Type: Attack

Length: 9.24 meters

Wingspan: 13.5 meters

Height: 3.89 meters

Crew: 2

Empty weight: 4100kg

Max weight: 5100kg

Max Payload: 0 kg (assuming payload refers to cargo)

OODA cycle: N/A (not familiar with how this is calculated)

Aircraft size: Small aircraft (0-12m long)

Agility: N/A (in the database, there is a number, I don't know what that number actually refers to or how it is calculated)

Average climb rate: 43 meters per second (this number is based on the IL-10, the Su-6 with the AM-42 engine apparently had slightly worse performance due to having more armor. I was unable to find a number for the aircraft)

Instantaneous climb rate, S/L: 129 meters per second (this number is based on the IL-10, the Su-6 with the AM-42 engine apparently had slightly worse performance due to having more armor. I was unable to find a number for the aircraft)

Take-off/Landing Distance: 410 meters/730 meters TOD/LAD

Cockpit visibility: Forward: Average, Sideways: Average, Aft: Average

Armor: Fuselage: Rifle Resistant? (I am unsure whether parts of the cockpit qualify as the fuselage. Due to the aircraft's size, half of the plane could be considered to be armored, but it is all around the crew, meaning it could be considered to be the cockpit. Apart from around the cockpit area, there is no armor), Cockpit: Rifle Resistant? (The sides have steel plates of 4mm and 6mm thickness, there is a 10mm steel plate between the gunner and the pilot, and there are 12mm and 10mm steel plates protecting the gunner, while there is 64mm bulletproof glass used for the front windows and the rear window for the gunner. Considering the normal engagement distances for 7.62mm/Rifle rounds, and that the armor thickness varies, I don't know what the exact classification within CMANO's armor system would be), Powerplant: None? (There is however a 6mm steel plate in the propeller spinner/the front of the engine. It is so small though that I don't know whether it would qualify for making the entire engine considered to be armored)

Damage points: N/A (I am unsure how this is calculated)

Sensors/EW-

1x Mk1 Eyeball

Comms/Datalinks-

HF Radio (Secure)

UHF Radio (Secure)

Signatures-

N/A (I am unsure as to how to calculate this)

Properties-

Bombsight - Basic (Assuming this refers to the pilot's gunsight, for example, being used to aim bombs or rockets, as otherwise, this aircraft has no "conventional" bombsight)

Propulsion-

1x Shvetsov M-71F, Piston, Max Speed: 277 knots

Technical details-

N/A (I am unable to locate this information)

Performance details for Mikulin AM-42

N/A (I am unable to locate this information)

Fuel-

Same as IL-10 (I am unable to find the fuel amount for the Su-6)

Performance data for DBID #629 Tu-16 Badger-A (if nothing is listed or a certain category is not there, it is because it is correct and thus does not need to be changed)-

All data is from the book titled Tupolev Tu-16: Versatile Cold War Bomber by Yefim Gordon, Dmitriy Kommissarov, and Vladimir Rigmant.

Crew: 6

Max Weight: 72000kg

Instantaneous Climb Rate, S/L: 22 meters per second with a 57000kg take off weight, 18 meters per second with a 71560kg take off weight

Armor: (See below)

The crew of the front cabin's seats were protected by varying levels of armor, ranging from 8-25mm thickness, made of plates either made of aluminum or steel. The flight deck's sides were protected by two 6mm steel plates, one on each side. The flight deck floor was protected by two 8mm steel plates and a single 15mm glassfibre-textolite composite plate.

The crew of the rear cabin's seats were protected by varying levels of armor ranging from 5-24mm in thickness, made of plates either made of aluminum or steel. The rear cabin was protected in varying levels, made of 5-10mm plates of steel, aluminum, cast magnesium alloy, or a combination of cast magnesium alloy and steel. The glass to the side of the tail gunner each were composed of a single 105mm Triplex glass pane, while the glass to the rear of the gunner (the glass the gunner looks out of if sitting forwards in his seat, aiming to the rear of the plane) was a single 135mm Triplex glass pane.

The fuselage and powerplant otherwise were unarmored.

Due to these varying levels of thickness, I am unsure as to what the thickness would be considered for the cockpit area.

Sensors/EW-

The SPO-3 Sirena-3 radar warning receiver should be removed. Early bomber Tu-16s did not have this.

Comms/Datalinks-

The UHF/VHF Radio (Unsecure) should be removed. It should be replaced by a second individual HF Radio (Unsecure) and an individual VHF Radio (Unsecure).

Properties-

Probe Refuelling should be removed. Tu-16 bombers did not have this capability until 1957, and even then it was only a few, not all of them.

Propulsion-

The RD-3Ms should be changed to 2x RD-3. They are Turbojets, the maximum speed possible is 411 knots indicated air speed at 6250 meters.

Technical details-

Military static thrust at S/L- 8750 kg per engine

Military static SFC at S/L- 1.0 kg/h/kg

Performance Details for 2x RD-3-

Please note I only have speed data for military power. I hope the cruising speed and loiter speed can be adjusted accordingly if I provide the landing speed. The landing speed with a 44000kg landing weight is 120 knots.

These numbers assume that all of the speeds in the game and in the database are in indicated airspeed.

Altitude Band & Throttle Altitude Speed Fuel consumption

Band 1, Military Speed 3657.6 meters 378 knots, 0.56 Mach N/A (data unavailable)

Band 2, Military Speed 3657.6-7315.2 meters 382 knots, 0.57 Mach N/A (data unavailable) Note- This is such a broad range of altitude that I just used the data for 5000 meters altitude. The speed at military power at 7000 meters is 394 knots.

Band 3, Military Speed 7315.2-10972.8 meters 345 knots, 0.51 Mach N/A (data unavailable) Note- This is such a broad range of altitude that I just used the data for 9000 meters altitude. The speed at military power at 10000 meters is 320 knots.

Band 4, Military Speed 10972.8-13716 meters 266 knots, 0.39 Mach N/A (data unavailable) Note- This is such a broad range of altitude that I just used the data for 12000 meters altitude. The Tu-16 had a service ceiling of 12800 meters at nominal power. Data for speed performance at higher altitudes than 12000 meters is not available.

Note- The maximum speed at take off power with a 55000kg AUW is 535 knots at 6250 meters. This is in true airspeed however.

Fuel-

Fuel Type: Aviation Fuel, Quantity: 34360kg

Thank you for considering my requests.

[dpabrams]

I'm looking for some insight into these two aircraft that flew as part of Composite Squadron's VC-8 and VC-10. I am working up a mid 70's Caribbean scenario and these Skyhawk's were apparently deployed at NAS Guantanamo and Roosevelt Roads in the mid 70's through the late 90's. They were twin seat trainers but yet carried weapons. Details are confusing on the exact roles as they are referred to as providing aerial target services for fleet training and dissimilar air combat maneuver training (DACT) and also modified to carry air-to-ground ordnance and AIM-9 Sidewinder air-to-air missiles.

TA-4F — Conversion trainer - standard A-4F with extra seat for an instructor, 241 built
TA-4J — Dedicated trainer version based on A-4F, but lacking weapons systems, and with down-rated engine, 277 built new, and most TA-4Fs were later converted to this configuration

I note that requests are usually accompanied with a great amount of detail but I have only found specifications and performance data on the single seat varieties. I see that there are plenty of twin seat TA-4 aircraft that are in the DB3000 but these are not in the CW DB. It appears that the TA-4J and TA-4F may be very similar to the TA-4H (Indonesia 1983-2003) and TA-4K (NZ 1984) in the DB3000 as they have less static thrust and can carry AIM-9's and a variety of ordinance. In fact I think (?) the TA-4K (NZ 1984) would make a viable substitute.

Any ideas?

[.Sirius]

ORIGINAL: dpabrams

I'm looking for some insight into these two aircraft that flew as part of Composite Squadron's VC-8 and VC-10. I am working up a mid 70's Caribbean scenario and these Skyhawk's were apparently deployed at NAS Guantanamo and Roosevelt Roads in the mid 70's through the late 90's. They were twin seat trainers but yet carried weapons. Details are confusing on the exact roles as they are referred to as providing aerial target services for fleet training and dissimilar air combat maneuver training (DACT) and also modified to carry air-to-ground ordnance and AIM-9 Sidewinder air-to-air missiles.

TA-4F — Conversion trainer - standard A-4F with extra seat for an instructor, 241 built
TA-4J — Dedicated trainer version based on A-4F, but lacking weapons systems, and with down-rated engine, 277 built new, and most TA-4Fs were later converted to this configuration

I note that requests are usually accompanied with a great amount of detail but I have only found specifications and performance data on the single seat varieties. I see that there are plenty of twin seat TA-4 aircraft that are in the DB3000 but these are not in the CW DB. It appears that the TA-4J and TA-4F may be very similar to the TA-4H (Indonesia 1983-2003) and TA-4K (NZ 1984) in the DB3000 as they have less static thrust and can carry AIM-9's and a variety of ordinance. In fact I think (?) the TA-4K (NZ 1984) would make a viable substitute.

Any ideas?

TA-4J

Added

[dpabrams]

In my scenario work for a Caribbean circa 1970 I am running across RADAR that was in use at MacDill AFB. In the mid-1950s, General Electric developed a radar with a search altitude of 100,000 feet and a range of 270 miles. This radar was significant in that it was the first stacked-beam radar to enter into production in the United States. Designed to operate in the L-band at 1250 to 1350 MHz, the radar deployed in late 1959 and the early 1960s. The AN/FPS-7 was used for both air defense and air traffic.In the early 1960s, a modification called AN/ECP-91 was installed to improve its electronic countermeasure (ECM) capability. About thirty units were produced MacDill upgraded a FPS-7B to a E model in 1966.

Thanks,

[Clockmaster77]

Sorry, I post the following request on the wrong Thread (DB3000 requests) but I should have post it here (CWDB requests). So I repost here. Sorry Again.

Battleship Novorossiysk (1949-1955).
Just... please think about that glorious ship, used as a training ship in the Soviet Navy (1949-55).
It was completed in 1914 for the Kingdom of Italy as "Giulio Cesare". Recommissioned/modified in 1937 (it served in Royal Italian Navy in WWII). Then it was sell to Soviet Union in 1949 to pay part of Italian War Debts towards Soviet Union.
The ship was armed with a main battery of thirteen 305 mm/46 Model 1909 guns in three triple-gun turret and two twin-gun turrets. The secondary battery comprised eighteen 120 mm (4.7 in) guns, all mounted the sides of the hull. Giulio Cesare was also armed with fourteen 76 mm (3.0 in) guns. She was equipped with three submerged 450 mm (17.7 in) torpedo tubes. The belt armor was 250 mm thick.
After the end of World War I, the number of 50-caliber 76 mm guns was reduced to 13, mounted on the turret tops, and six new 40-caliber 76 mm anti-aircraft (AA) guns were installed abreast the aft funnel. In addition two license-built 2-pounder AA guns were mounted on the forecastle deck.
When she was sell to Soviet Union all Italian light AA guns were replaced by eighteen 37 mm 70-K AA guns in six twin mounts and six singles. Soviet Union wants to replace her with Soviet built 305 mm guns, but the ship sunk in 1955.

It would be great in some mine sweep scenario in the early cold war era: it was sunk by a German WWII mine in Sevastopol in 1955, with the tragical loss of 608 sailors. But some uncontrolled rumors says that a group of italian navy veteran frogmen sabotaged the ship for retaliation: and this is great for a Scenario! If the developers will add this Ship (and perhaps some post wwII italian MAS vehicles) I promise I'll create a scenario about this highly fictional interpretation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_b ... lio_Cesare

https://www.revolvy.com/page/Italian-ba ... lio-Cesare

Goodbye!

[Clockmaster77]

This Hypotetical experimental airplanes could be a nice add:

- Aerfer Sagittario 2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerfer_Sagittario_2

- Aerfer Ariete
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerfer_Ariete

bye