Admirals Edition Naval Thread II

[jwilkerson]

In game terms we start on 7 Dec .. so this is definitely possible. It is true that in reality for the vast bulk of the map area, the WITP started on 8 Dec .. but the game was made in the USA and apparently we think the war started on 7 Dec ... hence the game does ... [:)]

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

... the game was made in the USA and apparently we think the war started on 7 Dec ... hence the game does ... [:)]

"Yesterday, December 7th, a day that will live in infamy ...."

[bradfordkay]

For shame... a WITP regular who got that quote wrong... [:-]

[Wirraway_Ace]

But the finger-wagging imotocon may have been a disproportionate response to the omission of "1941"

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

For shame... a WITP regular who got that quote wrong... [:-]

Yeah, yeah, I'm appropriately ashamed. Should have added a [sic] to satisfy the word for word addicts.

[Yamato hugger]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

"Yesterday, December 7th, a day that will live in infamy ...."

Wow, you nit-pickers really missed on this one. You got the obvious 1941 thing but still missed the mark.

a date that will live in infamy

Edit: Don was testing you, and you all failed [:D]

[Grotius]

To pick one more nit, FDR used "which" rather than "that." Modern Standard English calls for "that", but maybe things were different then:

Yesterday, December 7, 1941 - a date which will live in infamy - the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.

http://www.law.ou.edu/ushistory/infamy.shtml

[Don Bowen]

Ah, this forum will run a debate on anything...

[bradfordkay]

ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

"Yesterday, December 7th, a day that will live in infamy ...."

Wow, you nit-pickers really missed on this one. You got the obvious 1941 thing but still missed the mark.

a date that will live in infamy

Edit: Don was testing you, and you all failed [:D]

Where did I say anything other than that Don got the quote wrong?

[:'(]

[Yamato hugger]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen


Ah, this forum will run a debate on anything...

You're just realizing that?

[erstad]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen


Ah, this forum will run a debate on anything...

Including a "debate which will live in infamy"? [:D]

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

Ah, this forum will run a debate on anything...

Did I mention:

[Don Bowen]

Alright - let's get this thread back on track.
 
One of the new messages in AE is:
Previous report of sinking of (ship) incorrect.  Intelligence reports ship is still in service
 
Y'all chew on that for a while
 
 
 

[Ol_Dog]

Is the new intel really better than the old intel?

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: Ol_Dog

Is the new intel really better than the old intel?

Beats the fog of war out of me.

[Iron Duke]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

Alright - let's get this thread back on track.

One of the new messages in AE is:
Previous report of sinking of (ship) incorrect.  Intelligence reports ship is still in service
 
Y'all chew on that for a while

Does this message appear before the ship appears on the sunk ship list or can it appear after?
Ive always taken the ship sunk list to be set in stone - has this changed?

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: Iron Duke

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

Alright - let's get this thread back on track.

One of the new messages in AE is:
Previous report of sinking of (ship) incorrect.  Intelligence reports ship is still in service
 
Y'all chew on that for a while

Does this message appear before the ship appears on the sunk ship list or can it appear after?
Ive always taken the ship sunk list to be set in stone - has this changed?

Yes, changed. Fog of war extends to the sunk ship list.

[Ron Saueracker]

Any changes to the Japanese and American sub doctrines?

What about the Japanese naval AA? Used to be a good arguement put forward by Spence and a few others regarding the need to more accurately reflect Japanese practice of spreading ship formations out to facilitate individual ship maneuvers (diluting the flak severely) while Allied practice called for tight formations and formation maneuvers (concentrating the flak).

What about CAP differences, specifically naval? I seem to remember an AE AAR test which mentioned fighter direction.

[m10bob]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

Alright - let's get this thread back on track.

One of the new messages in AE is:
Previous report of sinking of (ship) incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service

Y'all chew on that for a while

Okay, does it indicate WHICH of the sinking reports was inaccurate, and is the bad report from this same date, or a prior date??
(Excellent enhancement, and not one which was expected!)

[Splinterhead]

ORIGINAL: m10bob

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

Alright - let's get this thread back on track.

One of the new messages in AE is:
Previous report of sinking of (ship) incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service

Y'all chew on that for a while

Okay, does it indicate WHICH of the sinking reports was inaccurate, and is the bad report from this same date, or a prior date??
(Excellent enhancement, and not one which was expected!)

I'm pretty sure he meant "(ship)" would actually be replaced by the ship's name, ex.
Previous report of sinking of Lexington incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service