Conlict of heroes...Matrix?

[jamespcrowley]

Having said that I would not be interested in a straight port from the board game, I will be even less interested in a dumbned-down version of it.

Fields of Glory - the miniatures version - was dumbned down for the PC losing, IMO, a lot in the process. Hopefully this will not be the case with CoH.

[Hanal]

ORIGINAL: James Crowley

Having said that I would not be interested in a straight port from the board game, I will be even less interested in a dumbned-down version of it.

Fields of Glory - the miniatures version - was dumbned down for the PC losing, IMO, a lot in the process. Hopefully this will not be the case with CoH.

You sent a chll down my spine as I recall Hasbro's PC version of SQUAD LEADER......

[wodin]

Your all sending a chill donw my side..no AI??

Eric has stated that it has been chnged to make it fit in with the PC. I only hope that means new more detailed features and an AI. If it's to abstract and if it has no AI I'm out.

[Erik Rutins]

Wow, it's amazing to watch rumors get started. [8D]

It is faithful to the boardgame, has a good AI, easy to learn but historically accurate, it looks great graphically with both a top down map/chit view and a full 3D view and it has plenty of new original firefights as well as all the original Awakening the Bear firefights. We are in final beta testing and checking out the multiplayer system and making final tweaks and adding polish. That's as much as I will say now. Big announcement coming this week.

Regards,

- Erik

[vonRocko]

Thanks Eric, I was getting all kinds of crazy thoughts! Now I can rest easier.

[wodin]

Sounds great, all I want to know now is if soldiers are actually taken into account for casualties etc..or is it a case of the chit becoming a half squad? I do hope that it is the former and not the latter, as with the power of a pc we really can take into account all the individuals of a squad to work out wounded\killed.

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Wow, it's amazing to watch rumors get started. [8D]

It is faithful to the boardgame, has a good AI, easy to learn but historically accurate, it looks great graphically with both a top down map/chit view and a full 3D view and it has plenty of new original firefights as well as all the original Awakening the Bear firefights. We are in final beta testing and checking out the multiplayer system and making final tweaks and adding polish. That's as much as I will say now. Big announcement coming this week.

Regards,

- Erik

[jamespcrowley]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Wow, it's amazing to watch rumors get started. [8D]

It is faithful to the boardgame, has a good AI, easy to learn but historically accurate, it looks great graphically with both a top down map/chit view and a full 3D view and it has plenty of new original firefights as well as all the original Awakening the Bear firefights. We are in final beta testing and checking out the multiplayer system and making final tweaks and adding polish. That's as much as I will say now. Big announcement coming this week.

Regards,

- Erik

Rumours abound in the absence of facts [;)]

Still, good to hear that it replicates the boardgame, has an AI and includes additional firefights. Thanks for the heads-up Erik; looking forward to the detailed news later in the week.

[Lannes]

Thanks Erik, Wait and See [:)]

[Erik Rutins]

Hi Wodin,

ORIGINAL: wodin
Sounds great, all I want to know now is if soldiers are actually taken into account for casualties etc..or is it a case of the chit becoming a half squad? I do hope that it is the former and not the latter, as with the power of a pc we really can take into account all the individuals of a squad to work out wounded\killed.

Have you played Conflict of Heroes? It's a great game design and we remained faithful to it. It translates well to the computer overall and we did not set out to redesign it as part of adapting it for computer play. The main thing it benefits from on the computer is 3D graphics and AI, a TCP/IP multiplayer system and a scenario editor. We think that computer wargamers that have not tried the boardgame will enjoy the gameplay that Conflict of Heroes offers and we think board gamers who love it will be very happy with the computer version. This a game that is easy to learn and fast to play but gives historically realistic outcomes that reward historical tactics. Playing the scenarios is like eating wargame potato chips, you can't eat just one and when you get into a multiplayer match you can have an amazing amount of wargaming fun without having to schedule a lot of time.

Regards,

- Erik

[Titanwarrior89]

Sounds like this may be a keeper. We hope.

[e_barkmann]

Glad to learn the game system hasn't been 'tweaked'.

[Wolfe1759]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Hi Wodin,

ORIGINAL: wodin
Sounds great, all I want to know now is if soldiers are actually taken into account for casualties etc..or is it a case of the chit becoming a half squad? I do hope that it is the former and not the latter, as with the power of a pc we really can take into account all the individuals of a squad to work out wounded\killed.

Have you played Conflict of Heroes? It's a great game design and we remained faithful to it. It translates well to the computer overall and we did not set out to redesign it as part of adapting it for computer play. The main thing it benefits from on the computer is 3D graphics and AI, a TCP/IP multiplayer system and a scenario editor. We think that computer wargamers that have not tried the boardgame will enjoy the gameplay that Conflict of Heroes offers and we think board gamers who love it will be very happy with the computer version. This a game that is easy to learn and fast to play but gives historically realistic outcomes that reward historical tactics. Playing the scenarios is like eating wargame potato chips, you can't eat just one and when you get into a multiplayer match you can have an amazing amount of wargaming fun without having to schedule a lot of time.

Regards,

- Erik

Like the sound of this.

Personally I'm probably in the opposite camp to wodin, I like to be able to look at a virtual counted on a computer screen and know that the numbers I see on it give me all the information, I don't want to have to open up screen after screen (or for that matter even a single screen) to get information on the unit. I'm a board wargamer at heart so what I most want in a computer game is a good boardgame with a challenging AI rather than rather than a highly detailed and "accurate" simulation.

Most board wargames designers ditched the throw as much chrome as possible at it style of monster game decades ago and have only improved because of it.

Some of the best recent Matrix releases (in my opinion) have been those that have a bordgaming mentality / origin such as Hannibal, Battle Academy and Unity of Command.

[Gil R.]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Hi Wodin,

ORIGINAL: wodin
Sounds great, all I want to know now is if soldiers are actually taken into account for casualties etc..or is it a case of the chit becoming a half squad? I do hope that it is the former and not the latter, as with the power of a pc we really can take into account all the individuals of a squad to work out wounded\killed.

Have you played Conflict of Heroes? It's a great game design and we remained faithful to it. It translates well to the computer overall and we did not set out to redesign it as part of adapting it for computer play. The main thing it benefits from on the computer is 3D graphics and AI, a TCP/IP multiplayer system and a scenario editor. We think that computer wargamers that have not tried the boardgame will enjoy the gameplay that Conflict of Heroes offers and we think board gamers who love it will be very happy with the computer version. This a game that is easy to learn and fast to play but gives historically realistic outcomes that reward historical tactics. Playing the scenarios is like eating wargame potato chips, you can't eat just one and when you get into a multiplayer match you can have an amazing amount of wargaming fun without having to schedule a lot of time.

Regards,

- Erik

I believe that this post reveals so much about the game that the only real mystery left is the identity of the developers.

[wodin]

Oh Gil we had that worked out ages ago mate..where you been..oh yes developing a WW2 wargame..

Are the units still on counters? I hope it's just a 3D map and we don't have Panzer Corp style units.

Looking forward to it. Though I'd need to read peoples opinion first. Abstraction at the tactical level can irk. Most of the problems with Squad battles is due to abstraction and thats far less abstracted than a boardgame.

[e_barkmann]

the identity of the developers.

and that's been a tad obvious for a while now


edit - beaten by Wodin.

[Titanwarrior89]

Hmmmm, I would like to get this game, but it still maybe weeks if not months away from release.  I am thinking of buying Ck's2, which is out now......so many decisions so little money.[:D] 

[wodin]

I doubt where talking months. Possibly a couple of weeks maybe.

CK2 however how long will it be before it's dirt cheap?

[Titanwarrior89]

Your correct on that the price will drop in a few weeks or so. May have to wait alittle bit and see how this pan's out.[;)]

[Gil R.]

ORIGINAL: wodin

Oh Gil we had that worked out ages ago mate..where you been..oh yes developing a WW2 wargame..

Correction: a WW2 game and a Civil War game.

[Titanwarrior89]

You are totally correct......see below[:D] Sorry Wodin! I am a weak man....I bought it. SLAP ME! Slap Hard.[:D]

ORIGINAL: wodin

I doubt where talking months. Possibly a couple of weeks maybe.

CK2 however how long will it be before it's dirt cheap?