Solitaire Barbarossa - A Beginner Stumbles East

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As predicted by some experienced war correspondents the Germans did not get a chance to replace their Baltic convoy and miss the Swedish resource during production.

Given the short time horizon of this scenario both sides produce almost exclusively infantry. The Russians add one Garrison to the mix and the Germans one mot. Infantry corps with their remaining 4 BPs which however will arrive very late in the scenario.

Below is the production pool for Sept/Oct 1941. Most of the units in there are from this production phase (except the tank and mech unit).

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The Germans also liberated Lithuania at the end of turn 1.

(I am not sure if this is a good decision. I have read that it prevents partisans to appear in liberated areas and it does not seem to do any other harm. But perhaps I am overlooking something again).

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Beginning of Turn 2:

The Allies win first initiative but the Germans request a re-roll and win the final initiative. Because of this they have now two turns in a row.

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Turn2 / Impulse 1:

The weather is fine - an auspicious start for the Axis.

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The Axis selects a land action, plans 3 attacks and the Luftwaffe supports this with two ground strikes.

The first strike is at the 1st Russian Army (mot.) south-west of Vilna. The Russian air force intercepts this attack with their second to last remaining fighter unit and the Luftwaffe intercepts in turn. The Luftwaffe comes out as the winner of the dog fight. The Stukas are cleared through.



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However, the Stukas turn out to be less effective in the forested terrain where the Russians have dug-in and the ground strike has no effect.



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The second ground strike targets the northern flank of Russian SW front. The Germans try to pry open the small break that they have achieved during the initial phase of the battle.

Here the Russians cannot intercept because of fighter range and the undisturbed Luftwaffe disorganizes their enemy.

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Next the Russians try to upset the German attack ratios by an escorted ground support for the 1st Russian army near Vilna. The Luftwaffe intercepts once more.


Having recently been accused of lacking honor by outside observers, the Russian fighter sacrifices itself to give the bomber a chance to continue the attack. It also manages to take its German opponent with him into the grave.

The bomber in turn strengthen the defense of 1st Russian army (by 2 points).



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The outcome of the previous air battle means also that the last Russian fighter has been destroyed and the the Luftwaffe is now in supreme command of the air space at the East front.

The land attack near Vilna is successful on the surface but all attackers have been disorganized - yet again early in the turn.

(actually the Russian ground support was pointless here since it did not change the odds - the Russian air commander simply miscalculated.)

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The attack south of Brest in contrast is a full success and SW front HQ finds itself suddenly exposed to front line units.

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The third and last axis attack did not receive any support by the air force. Here a combined German and Romanian battle group widens the gap of the breach at the front near Cernauti. While successful all Axis units once more got disorganized.

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The situation at the north and central fronts at the end of the first German impulse of turn 2.

Two more Russian armies are cut off just east of Brest with their back to the Pripet marches. But the Germans have not yet found a recipe on how to approach / invest / encircle Riga without becoming out of supply.

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This is the situation in the southern sector. The Russians at the Polish border around Lvov are not sure if to withdraw towards Kiev before Lvov is cut off or if they should try to counterattack near Cernauti and contain the breach there. Currently the Stavka is leaning towards the latter.

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I would like to give few tips for the future.

1) river lines don’t half attack strength during surprise impulse, it’s good to time to get cross rivers. Other options are to use offensive chit or attack with low odds.

2) J/A is the longest turn (with fine weather unless rolled 10 for weather twice in a row). Don’t make low odds attacks until late turn. With 6:1 +1 Blitz is safe, you cannot be disorganized. Staying organized is the key when you attack.

3) if you ground strike one unit that is in supply you get +1 to attack. Let’s say defending unit has value 5. If you use 5 strength Stuka for ground support you are guaranteed to get one column better attack but only 50% chance to get +1 with ground strike. Ground striking 2-3 unit stack is much better business.

4) try to get ARM / MECH unit(s) to each attack on clear or woods to get blitz table. Your units stay organized much easier.

5) German goal is to kill USSR units, taking land is less important.

6) usual strategy for USSR is to have strong double stacks in every second hex and retreat every impulse away from the range of Stukas. USSR can stop to river Dnieper, Germany is forced to use O-chit or attack low odds.
If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush.

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Looking at map attacking 6-3 INF in north near Riga would have been easier and after break through USSR would have been in hurry to block Germans.

In south moving German INF NW behind USSR without attack would forced USSR to react or they all go OOS soon. Also bringing bomber to cover INF would have helped against USSR counter attack.
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There is one golden rule in this game: That is that if you cannot handle the worst result possible, don't attack. The question in the south is therefore: can the Soviets handle the worst result possible if they counterattack and that attack fails?

Usually the side on defense should refrain from counterattacking. It's better to keep you soldiers alive, retreat and fight another day. Also take into account the victory conditions of Barbarossa. Can the Soviets trade space for time or is the situation that desperate that you have to stay and fight? Winter is coming and if the Soviet army is in a reasonable shape when bad weather arrives, things are looking good for them. However, if your units are eliminated during the good weather turns, the German panzerdivisions will keep moving during blizzards and snow too, if there are only empty hexes in front of them...

Finally there's the position of the short range Luftwaffe Stuka's which is also important. If you move the Soviet army out of reach of the flying artillery, you gain valuable time...
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ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer_slith

I would like to give few tips for the future.

1) river lines don’t half attack strength during surprise impulse, it’s good to time to get cross rivers. Other options are to use offensive chit or attack with low odds.

2) J/A is the longest turn (with fine weather unless rolled 10 for weather twice in a row). Don’t make low odds attacks until late turn. With 6:1 +1 Blitz is safe, you cannot be disorganized. Staying organized is the key when you attack.

3) if you ground strike one unit that is in supply you get +1 to attack. Let’s say defending unit has value 5. If you use 5 strength Stuka for ground support you are guaranteed to get one column better attack but only 50% chance to get +1 with ground strike. Ground striking 2-3 unit stack is much better business.

4) try to get ARM / MECH unit(s) to each attack on clear or woods to get blitz table. Your units stay organized much easier.

5) German goal is to kill USSR units, taking land is less important.

6) usual strategy for USSR is to have strong double stacks in every second hex and retreat every impulse away from the range of Stukas. USSR can stop to river Dnieper, Germany is forced to use O-chit or attack low odds.

This are great tips - thank you for taking the time to summarize them.

That I have attacked a bit rashly is already sinking in - some other points you made I have overlooked (e.g. pt. 1). Also didn't realize that the Stukas play such a dominant role that the whole Russian turn revolves around avoiding them. I will take this to heart.
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ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer_slith

Looking at map attacking 6-3 INF in north near Riga would have been easier and after break through USSR would have been in hurry to block Germans.

In south moving German INF NW behind USSR without attack would forced USSR to react or they all go OOS soon. Also bringing bomber to cover INF would have helped against USSR counter attack.

Re south: When deciding whether to cut off the Russians around Lvov I was looking at the supply rules last night and could find only that "any unconquered home city is a primary supply source". I understand "any" to mean that the city itself can be isolated from the rest of Russia. So if the Germans surround Lvov plus some units near it, the Russians seem to still be able to get supply form Lvov. That would mean that I have to conquer Lvov as well which is strongly defended. But perhaps I have (again) overlooked something crucial here.
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ORIGINAL: Centuur

There is one golden rule in this game: That is that if you cannot handle the worst result possible, don't attack. The question in the south is therefore: can the Soviets handle the worst result possible if they counterattack and that attack fails?

Usually the side on defense should refrain from counterattacking. It's better to keep you soldiers alive, retreat and fight another day. Also take into account the victory conditions of Barbarossa. Can the Soviets trade space for time or is the situation that desperate that you have to stay and fight? Winter is coming and if the Soviet army is in a reasonable shape when bad weather arrives, things are looking good for them. However, if your units are eliminated during the good weather turns, the German panzerdivisions will keep moving during blizzards and snow too, if there are only empty hexes in front of them...

Finally there's the position of the short range Luftwaffe Stuka's which is also important. If you move the Soviet army out of reach of the flying artillery, you gain valuable time...

Thanks for saving the Stavka from another blunder. They will review their initial plans and reconsider .....

Really appreciate that everybody provides so much help here in the forum!
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Looking at map attacking 6-3 INF in north near Riga would have been easier and after break through USSR would have been in hurry to block Germans.

In south moving German INF NW behind USSR without attack would forced USSR to react or they all go OOS soon. Also bringing bomber to cover INF would have helped against USSR counter attack.

Re south: When deciding whether to cut off the Russians around Lvov I was looking at the supply rules last night and could find only that "any unconquered home city is a primary supply source". I understand "any" to mean that the city itself can be isolated from the rest of Russia. So if the Germans surround Lvov plus some units near it, the Russians seem to still be able to get supply form Lvov. That would mean that I have to conquer Lvov as well which is strongly defended. But perhaps I have (again) overlooked something crucial here.
Here is the trick: Lvov is Polish city, not Russian [;)] units around Lvov take supply from HQ. And HQ needs rail line to some USSR city.

Bessarabian cities are exception: they become part of Russian home country.
If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush.

-Murphy's war law
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